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I am not Takfeeri extremist. I am just saying Turks are more White European than Middle eastern. In middle east its unimaginable for Muslim girls to wear shorts and western revealing clothes. They mostly wear Burqa and black chador or hijab.

Wikipedia or Google is available. Aren't they? Google a bit. It's the founding father Kamal Ataturk who promoted secularism so fiercely that common turks tried to turn western. You see the western part in Europe is modern while Anatolia is a bit conservative.
 
Wikipedia or Google is available. Aren't they? Google a bit. It's the founding father Kamal Ataturk who promoted secularism so fiercely that common turks tried to turn western. You see the western part in Europe is modern while Anatolia is a bit conservative.
Yeah, Anatolia is a bit more conservative, yet still not like the ME countries.
 
We are sons of Oghuz Khan....not related with Arabs.
Hazrat noh AS has three son yafiz ,ham,and saam in which saam is father of Arabs and some other nation ham is father of black people while rest of all son of yafiz including turks according to tareeq ibne aqseer ,ibne farishta
 
Turkey is Muslim country but Turks don't look like typical middle eastern Muslims. They look like western people from Christian world. Most of their names also sound very western.



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Turkey is part of Europe. Fear keeps it out of the EU
Tariq Ramadan
Sarkozy's argument won't wash. This great nation, a crucial link with the Muslim world, would be a major asset for the union

Last modified on Sunday 17 July 2016 09.26 BST



When on his recent visit to Turkey President Obama called for Turkish entry into the European Union, he put his finger on a strategic and cultural sore spot. The French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, speaking for the majority position in Europe, was quick to respond: Turkey may one day enjoy a privileged relationship with the EU, but full membership is out of the question. Turkey is not European – geographically or culturally.

Interpretations of the US stance are numerous and contradictory, but they highlight deep tensions within Europe on the issue. Some believe the US is concerned primarily with securing access to the energy reserves of the Caspian basin; others suspect Washington of using Turkish alignment with American policy (by way of Nato) to exert pressure on its European allies; still others see an attempt to weaken Europe by placing a Turkish economic, demographic and cultural millstone around its neck.

None of these hypotheses is wholly accurate or inaccurate. Nevertheless, they do reveal Europe's continuing contortions over its identity and its future. The Turkish question rarely figures in the foreground of European debate today, yet its spectre hovers over discussions of "European identity", "immigration" and the "Muslim question".

Political parties that call for an increasingly narrow view of Europe are gaining ground. These parties promote a strictly Judeo-Christian perspective of European history, mistrust of Islam, repressive hardline immigration policies and reject a Turkey they claim is overpopulated and excessively Muslim.

Europeans have become fearful. Economic crisis has brought with it calls for greater security and for protection of purchasing power, and from "foreigners" and "immigrants", who are seen as threatening financial stability and cultural homogeneity. Seen from this perspective, the Turkish question reveals both centripetal (a sense of "standing together" against outside threats) and centrifugal (a lack of shared strategic or foreign policy orientations) forces within the EU.

The arguments that locate Turkey outside European history and geography cannot withstand analysis. For more than four centuries the Ottoman empire shared and shaped the political and strategic future of the continent. During the late 19th and early 20th century, it became the "sick man of Europe". Even today, Turkey's historical and economic influence continues to be substantial.

No one is likely to be fooled by attempts to redraw the geographical boundaries of Europe for ideological or political purposes. If we were to apply the same criteria across the board, Cyprus would not be part of Europe. Such artificial distinctions ignore history, just as they ignore the realities of European society itself, where national origins, memories and cultures have long met and blended. Approximately 40% of Turkey's population is of European origin; millions of Turks have already acquired the nationality of a European country.

We must look elsewhere for the real issues, and we must look them in the eye. Instead of being obsessed by the question of culture and religion, European leaders would be better advised to develop a forward-looking strategic vision. Given its close ties with Iran, Syria, Iraq and central Asia, Turkey simply cannot be ignored. Its economic and military clout should be integrated into a European policy based on good-neighbourly relations and stability in Asia and the Middle East.

On two recent occasions the Turkish government has refused to bow to Washington, demonstrating a distinct capacity for independent action. Europe can hardly fault the US for its unilateral behaviour while failing to develop an autonomous foreign policy of its own. Where there should be a unified European voice, there is a discordant chorus. The US, China and India have no reason to fear European power. Divided, lacking a common policy, Europe succeeds only in working against itself.

Meanwhile, commercial ties between Turkey and the European countries have continued to expand. Between 1990 and 2003, Turkish imports from Europe grew threefold, while exports quadrupled. Better trade management within the framework of an EU-wide economic policy should make these ties stronger and more competitive. The countries of Europe are facing an acute, long-term manpower shortage. Writing in internal EU publications, some specialists now argue the labour market will require an additional 15 million workers in the next 20 years. Europe needs immigration. Instead of adopting restrictive immigration policies that would criminalise both undocumented and legal immigrants, the EU should be moving toward realistic and responsible regulation. In this light Turkey, with its human resources, would prove a powerful ally.


It is time for the countries of Europe to overcome their fear of Islam; time for them to stop turning Turkish EU membership into a cultural battleground. The only criteria to membership should be those of Copenhagen (1993) – and a European commission report (2004) mentioned that Turkey is very close to satisfying them. European politicians are ready to ignore their countries' long-term socioeconomic needs in order to respond to the short-term religious and cultural fears of their constituencies. Millions of women and men are already European and Muslim; Turkish EU membership would be nothing new, and present no dangers. Islam is, de facto, a European religion; culturally, politically and economically, Turkey forms an integral part of its future.

We need courageous European politicians who will develop a new vision of Turkish-EU relations, who will remind their citizens that Turkey, by virtue of its economic power, geography, history and natural position as go-between with the "Muslim world", is a major asset for Europe and for its future. Instead of waiting until historical necessity forces the EU to incorporate Turkey, European statesmen should be working together to develop a clear, reasonable policy leading to Turkish membership – one that would respect political principles and recognise cultural and religious diversity. Welcoming Turkey into the EU would mean Europe would have to reconcile itself with its own principles: the principles it has all too often betrayed in practice.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/aug/06/turkey-eu-membership


I could post you pictures where I can draw a image of turks who look like iranians or arabs.. and than I can show you the asian part..

after ethnic turks immigrated and conquered the nowadays turkey what can we think happened to the folk wich was already there? all died? all went away? no mixed with turks and lost their identity..

than we have kaukasian ppl in turkey than we have greek ppl who lost identity

man you can look at turkish muslim ilahi (gospel?) or some type of kuran reading and see similaritys to orthodox church music etc..


this should sound familar to turkish ppl.. the ppl who converted to islam came also with new fresh culture wich integrated to turkish society..

so we can speak of ethnic turkic ppl and turks (rebublic of turkey) and yes in turkey they are many different ethnic ppl like almost everywhere :)
 
Eurasia,Turkey,North Africa are racially diverse regions

How does that relate to the OP trolling about Turks sounding western name-wise and there being such a thing as "typical muslim"? :P
 
op thinks all muslims walk around in burqa or with long beards and prayer hats on..clearly hasnt traveled out of his village much:lol:

turkey has eurasian and european parts. apart from that they r just a confused bunch of people ruled by a dictator in a parliamentary democracy :lol:
 
How does that relate to the OP trolling about Turks sounding western name-wise and there being such a thing as "typical muslim"? :P
There is no typical Muslim name many countries have regional names e.g Pervaiz is a Persian name,Allahditta is a Punjabi name
 
Turks are related to neighbouring Armenians, Georgians and Greeks mostly. They do have slightly more Eurasian or Mongoloid in them though.
 
Turks are related to neighbouring Armenians, Georgians and Greeks mostly. They do have slightly more Eurasian or Mongoloid in them though.
The original Turk were from Mongolia,pure yellow.
 
The real Turkish names don't sound arabic or european since our tongue and sounds are very different from them.

GÖKTUĞ , AYTUĞ , ALTINAY , ATİLAY , YİĞİT , KAĞAN , AYBİKE etc.

Our look evolved in time from Step Asian to European but in Ottoman Era it mostly mixed with Middle Easterners as a result of having a big empire for centuries on 3 continents.

Most people think that I am Italian.
 
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