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Are people like Zahid Hamid responsible for the current state of PAK ?

Zahid hamid is very famous among those pakistanis who are related to army and among mummy daddy urban teenagers. The rest either dont know him at all or consider him Lal topi wala maskhara.
 
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Please do elect him... it will serve the national interest....(whose national interest is a mystery :))

Why on earth would we do that. Unlike Indians who like to elect proven murderers, we don't even want to elect a guy who just talks.
 
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that old guy is a good laugh..I do enjoy watching him.He speaks quite energetically.

Once I was watching this debate where he sticks to his idea of romantic Islamic philosophy,and gets bludgeoned left and right by the other folks.Then he tries to hide behind Iqbal and gives the grandmother of all arguments.Why this is right ? Because Iqbal said so,and Zaid Hamid happens to be the only person,who interpreted Iqbal correctly.He again gets abused black and blue for his dogmatism and then he says that he owns it with pride.After another round of criticism,he says,okay fine,let the time decide what is right and what is wrong.
I found out,most of his debates follow somewhat the same graph.....It was fun watching nonetheless.

As much as Indians have wet dreams about this guy, this very post shows that there is a healthy debate going on in Pakistan, and people do challenge him. Meaning that he is not the only voice of Pakistan.

Look up hussan nisar, he represents much more of the population, but because he is sane, Indians don't like to hear what he says
 
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ZH is donkey and stupid he is like a paid think tank to support some organizations.
He is against SC, he is against Govt, he is against elections he is against everyone except army i suggest ZH to watch Zero Dark thirty its slap on your face and people whom you defend.

As far as India is concerned they are full of Zaid Hamids Indian army chief i was surprised to see how he is begging, BJP, Shiv senic, and other saffron terrorists so instead of giving attention to donkeys like ZH you people better mind your own business.

safron terrorits ? LMAO ! If gujrat riots are a parameter to judge nations then your entire political system is a rotten gutter since millions of shias during holy months of ramadaan are almost always killed every year during PPP/PML/Army regime !

Why on earth would we do that. Unlike Indians who like to elect proven murderers, we don't even want to elect a guy who just talks.

Why on earth would you do that ?? Because he is the greatest thinker and geo strategist after Iqbal :rofl: Atleast that's what he claims to be :D
 
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Well Indians obviously hate him and that makes sense. But he has a large following in Pakistan and many people do support him. There is no point to argue with Indians here about the arguments Zahid Hamid put up as it will always be against them.

But Pakistanis need to realize that he is a true patriot and says things which the Indians and the West hate to hear. He obviously is supported by the army and can be assumed to be a spokesman for them.
Now obviously, there will be some nincompoop from India who wont like what I have written and will put his useless logi, but then again we may have some Pakistani liberal nincompoops too who might reply to this.

Cant agree with you more.
Thread starters question should be " Are people like baal thakray responsible for the current state of india " 6 guys rape a girl in a bus and run away from the scene and no body stopped them ? kindly worry about your country in sha Allah we will take care of ours.
 
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Cant agree with you more.
Thread starters question should be " Are people like baal thakray responsible for the current state of india " 6 guys rape a girl in a bus and run away from the scene and no body stopped them ? kindly worry about your country in sha Allah we will take care of ours.
After that rape incident. Entire nation stood against it. Laws changed, fast track courts established. Yesterday a man was given death sentence after 10 day trial.

When was the last time Pakistani people stood against the basic problem ? Don't say Qadri.

The Zaid Hamid factor means conspiracy theories and people made to believe that entire world is conspiring to destroy Pakistan.

Its about people like Zaid Hamid which take people away from reality.
 
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After that rape incident. Entire nation stood against it. Laws changed, fast track courts established. Yesterday a man was given death sentence after 10 day trial.

When was the last time Pakistani people stood against the basic problem ? Don't say Qadri.

The Zaid Hamid factor means conspiracy theories and people made to believe that entire world is conspiring to destroy Pakistan.

Its about people like Zaid Hamid which take people away from reality.

So what you are saying that zaid hamid is impractical so baal thakray and his party are the true idols of impracticality ? is that what you are saying?
 
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So what you are saying that zaid hamid is impractical so baal thakray and his party are the true idols of impracticality ? is that what you are saying?
You want to discuss Bal Thackeray or people like Zaid Hamid ? Discussion is who is destroying Pakistan. Did Bal Thakeray destroy Pakistan ?

If you want to discuss on Bala Saheb, there is already a thread on him, ask your question there. I will happily discuss it there.

Do you support Zaid Hamid or you just want to have tit for tat debate ?
 
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You want to discuss Bal Thackeray or people like Zaid Hamid ? Discussion is who is destroying Pakistan. Did Bal Thakeray destroy Pakistan ?

If you want to discuss on Bala Saheb, there is already a thread on him, ask your question there. I will happily discuss it there.

Do you support Zaid Hamid or you just want to have tit for tat debate ?

You still dont get it do you ? indians will always dislike zaid sahab because he inspires nationalism,patriotism and love for the army. baal thakray does more than that on your side. whats the need of discussing ?
 
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You still dont get it do you ? indians will always dislike zaid sahab because he inspires nationalism,patriotism and love for the army. baal thakray does more than that on your side. whats the need of discussing ?
You believe the ghost stories he says ?
 
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safron terrorits ? LMAO ! If gujrat riots are a parameter to judge nations then your entire political system is a rotten gutter since millions of shias during holy months of ramadaan are almost always killed every year during PPP/PML/Army regime !



Why on earth would you do that ?? Because he is the greatest thinker and geo strategist after Iqbal :rofl: Atleast that's what he claims to be :D

Do Indians just elect people based on what they claim? No evidence, no reasoning, just claims?
Is that why you guys elected Modi? Because he will rid India of the "Muslim problem"?
Unlike you guys, we like to use our intelligence, we don't simply elect people based on what they say.
 
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Zaid Hamid doesnt talk about violence on minorites like Old Bally did.

This is the split between Indian & Pakistan.
 
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Do Indians just elect people based on what they claim? No evidence, no reasoning, just claims?
Is that why you guys elected Modi? Because he will rid India of the "Muslim problem"?
Unlike you guys, we like to use our intelligence, we don't simply elect people based on what they say.
:rofl: Yup, You elect Zardari because his wife was assassinated. Look what he gave to you.

Modi destroyed 120 temples in Gujrat because of illegal occupation of govt. land. Read Time magazine's article.
 
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