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Are Indian fears about CPEC related to Kashmir issue?

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The fact that the route passes through the disputed Kashmir region seems to have worried India, which has about half a million troops stationed in its part of the territory to quell more than two decades of armed rebellion.

“China is using Indian land area illegally occupied by Pakistan,” said Seshadri Chari, a national executive member of the ruling Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party.

Beijing has been willing to address India’s concerns, though. Hua Chunying, China’s foreign ministry spokeswoman, told the media that Beijing is committed to developing friendly and cooperative relations with others and that CPEC would not affect China’s position on Kashmir.

Iran could use Chabahar – about 843 nautical miles from India’s commercial hub, Mumbai – to export more goods to India and the Asia-Pacific region.

Suchitra Vijayan, a New York-based lawyer who has worked on India’s borderlands including Kashmir, told Al Jazeera: “India doesn’t want to internationalize the Kashmir issue but with Pakistan, China, and CPEC coming in, it happens.”

Andrew Small, author of The China-Pakistan Axis: Asia’s New Geopolitics, doesn’t believe that the offers to India to join CPEC will elicit a positive response in the near future. But he believes there is a view among a number of officials in China and Pakistan that, in the long-term, that door needs to be kept open.

Small told Al Jazeera that keeping the door open does not mean that India will become enthusiastic about CPEC but that “it will be neutrally disposed of – seeing some potential security benefits if Pakistan’s economy is stabilized”.

According to a report released by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute – a Swedish-based think tank – India’s opposition to CPEC reflects a concern over the internationalization of the Kashmir dispute and the growing influence of China in the Indian Ocean.

It says that there is considerable concern within India that China, which has been neutral on Kashmir since 1963, can no longer be so now that its economic and security interests in these territories are growing.

After the 1962 India-China war, Beijing sought to cultivate good relations with Islamabad, which has emerged as the biggest buyer of Chinese defense equipment in recent years.
read more: Are Indian fears about CPEC related to Kashmir issue?

Are we as Pakistani's becoming paranoid about India's negative interests in CPEC? or are we being smart in understanding their real underlying motives?
 
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India’s concerns
The fact that the route passes through the disputed Kashmir region seems to have worried India, which has about half a million troops stationed in its part of the territory to quell more than two decades of armed rebellion.

“China is using Indian land area illegally occupied by Pakistan,” said Seshadri Chari, a national executive member of the ruling Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party.

Beijing has been willing to address India’s concerns, though. Hua Chunying, China’s foreign ministry spokeswoman, told the media that Beijing is committed to developing friendly and cooperative relations with others and that CPEC would not affect China’s position on Kashmir.

Iran could use Chabahar – about 843 nautical miles from India’s commercial hub, Mumbai – to export more goods to India and the Asia-Pacific region.

Suchitra Vijayan, a New York-based lawyer who has worked on India’s borderlands including Kashmir, told Al Jazeera: “India doesn’t want to internationalize the Kashmir issue but with Pakistan, China, and CPEC coming in, it happens.”

Andrew Small, author of The China-Pakistan Axis: Asia’s New Geopolitics, doesn’t believe that the offers to India to join CPEC will elicit a positive response in the near future. But he believes there is a view among a number of officials in China and Pakistan that, in the long-term, that door needs to be kept open.

Small told Al Jazeera that keeping the door open does not mean that India will become enthusiastic about CPEC but that “it will be neutrally disposed of – seeing some potential security benefits if Pakistan’s economy is stabilized”.

According to a report released by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute – a Swedish-based think tank – India’s opposition to CPEC reflects a concern over the internationalization of the Kashmir dispute and the growing influence of China in the Indian Ocean.

It says that there is considerable concern within India that China, which has been neutral on Kashmir since 1963, can no longer be so now that its economic and security interests in these territories are growing.

After the 1962 India-China war, Beijing sought to cultivate good relations with Islamabad, which has emerged as the biggest buyer of Chinese defense equipment in recent years.
read more: Are Indian fears about CPEC related to Kashmir issue?

Are we as Pakistani's becoming paranoid about India's negative interests in CPEC? or are we being smart in understanding their real underlying motives?
Indian moaning about China using Gilgit as route for CPEC have no legal basis at all. Despite stupid Indian claims of China using 'Indian land illegally', it is in fact India that is illegally occupying a part of J&K in continued violation of UN resolutions. If India claims the area as disputed then there is only one legal basis for that claim and that is UN resolutions. These resolutions also define a mechanism for resolution of the dispute through a free, fair, and impartial plebiscite. If Indians think that China is violating their sovereignty, they need to show that the area is theirs through a free, fair, and impartial plebiscite. Until then it's just a non-sense claim and bigotry. No one in world is willing to take Indian claims at the face value.

I did not realize that India stationed half of their troops in Kashmir. That is quite the military buildup.
It is in fact much more than that. Indians have stationed about three-quarters of a million troops in the state illegally occupied by India.
 
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Indian moaning about China using Gilgit as route for CPEC have no legal basis at all. Despite stupid Indian claims of China using 'Indian land illegally', it is in fact India that is illegally occupying a part of J&K in continued violation of UN resolutions. If India claims the area as disputed then there is only one legal basis for that claim and that is UN resolutions. These resolutions also define a mechanism for resolution of the dispute through a free, fair, and impartial plebiscite. If Indians think that China is violating their sovereignty, they need to show that the area is theirs through a free, fair, and impartial plebiscite. Until then it's just a non-sense claim and bigotry. No one in world is willing to take Indian claims at the face value.


It is in fact much more than that. Indians have stationed about three-quarters of a million troops in the state illegally occupied by India.

:blah::blah::blah: if you're that adamant send your army to claim the rest of it, rather than your proxies!
 
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Nah. We only keep around 20% of our troops in the entirety of Western China, which is one of the five theatre commands within the country. Besides, the border with India just might be far less important to us, especially considering how we do not really feel threatened by you guys.

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I expected a logical response from an Indian but you Indians start talking crap as usual.

How is that crap?

1 - Kashmir was is and always an integral part of India.
2 - The wars you started over Kashmir was a failure
3 - Your attempts to internationalise the issue failed.
4 - You proxies trying to gain ground is an utter failure.
5 - Your army is not powerful enough to take back Kashmir even with the N-bomb, your constant threats to use them & with a Professional Army that deploys expendable mercenaries to complete your dastardly acts across the LOC.
6: Your only fall back in China, which is already head over heels in issues surrounding the SCS and the buildup of the ASEAN resistance & pissing off the USA, enough for them to raise buildup for the counter attack.
7: The UN designating LET, JUD and the Haqqani networks as a terrorist organisation and getting your beloved ISI to act upon your them and enforce action or face sanctions.

please explain how you are winning or making ground in Kashmir? the rest has been debated to death and is a constant merry go around in this forum, so please spare me the useless counters as always.

Who knows you might be faced with an American base soon on the LOC hunting terrorist scum with predator drones in the not too distant future.
 
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How is that crap?

1 - Kashmir was is and always an integral part of India.
2 - The wars you started over Kashmir was a failure
3 - Your attempts to internationalise the issue failed.
4 - You proxies trying to gain ground is an utter failure.
5 - Your army is not powerful enough to take back Kashmir even with the N-bomb, your constant threats to use them & with a Professional Army that deploys expendable mercenaries to complete your dastardly acts across the LOC.
6: Your only fall back in China, which is already head over heels in issues surrounding the SCS and the buildup of the ASEAN resistance & pissing off the USA, enough for them to raise buildup for the counter attack.
7: The UN designating LET, JUD and the Haqqani networks as a terrorist organisation and getting your beloved ISI to act upon your them and enforce action or face sanctions.

please explain how you are winning or making ground in Kashmir? the rest has been debated to death and is a constant merry go around in this forum, so please spare me the useless counters as always.

Who knows you might be faced with an American base soon on the LOC hunting terrorist scum with predator drones in the not too distant future.
You're still talking crap. It's not a matter of our ability of freeing the J&K from Indian occupied by force. We are talking about the legal position of Indian claims. The fact of the matter is that India is in illegal occupation of J&K in clear and continued violation of UN resolutions. How we end that illegal occupation is another aspect. If the people of the occupied land and Pakistan have not yet been able to end illegal Indian occupation, that does not make the occupation legal. We are determined to make Indians leave the occupied territory in disgrace.
 
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You're still talking crap. It's not a matter of our ability of freeing the J&K from Indian occupied by force. We are talking about the legal position of Indian claims. The fact of the matter is that India is in illegal occupation of J&K in clear and continued violation of UN resolutions. How we end that illegal occupation is another aspect. If the people of the occupied land and Pakistan have not yet been able to end illegal Indian occupation, that does not make the occupation legal. We are determined to make Indians leave the occupied territory in disgrace.
Read the UN resolution then talk .
 
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I have !!! read a bit of history , you bring nothing new here , everything has been debated ad nauseam .
Are you aware first condition to put for any plebiscite to take place ??
 
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