Are East Asians inherently more neat and tidy than South Asians?

[Adecypher]

goodness is not innate, but is something that can be trained and elicited.

Very interesting...I might need to delve deeper into this research... thanks for the explanation...

 

[Indus Pakistan]

There is growing evidence within the scientific community that differences in behaviour between races may be genetic. The research keeps getting hushed up because nobody wants to deal with the controversy.

There probably is but nothing significant. If everything was determined by genes then why did North West Europe conspiciously obscure itself for millenia after millenia after millenia until only in the last 500 years did it start making waves?

Of course within that sliver of human history ( 500 years ) the generations who lived through began to get things to their head and starts to delude that their prowess was in the genes. Clearly history blows that myth.

Have a look at this map of Ancient Civilizations at the dawn of time. If you transpose a modern political map over this you get-below.

Mayas/Aztecs > Mexico
Incas > Peru
Nile Valley > Eygpt
Mesopotomia > Iraq
Harappa/Indus > Pakistan
Huang Ho > China

Some of them are a laugh, Eygpt, Iraq , Pakistan ???? Seriously .......

The North West of Europe ( including the much trumpeted Nordics ) don't even come on the radar screen. So much so for tick tock of the determinate genes that this bunch would later start believing in their own innate superiority. With many still do. Go to Stormfront and you will see.

As me move forward in time civilization begins to permeate from Middle East into the first European country - Greece which conveniently happened to have it's face staring into Middle East. From the original nodes it starts spreading.

Then look at Alexander the Great and his Empire on his journey to conquer the known world. Have look at the map below. All it includes is modern Greece, Albania, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Turkey, Cyprus, Syria,Isreal,Lebnon, Eygpt, Libyia, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Turkmenistan,Uzbekistan,Afghanistan, Pakistan. All these countries today don't exactly get pulses going. Greece today is beggar of Europe, Syria is imploding, Iraq is war zone and rest are also just about keeping head over water. Yet in the past this region was centre of world civilization.

Only after this would history shift further west to Rome and even than most of North West Europe remained a backwater with Germany as the home of vandal and savages - According to the civilized Rome.

The mistake people make is judge a changine world within their own lifetime. Little do they know they are just small blip on the course of history. Soon I suspect the focus of the world will shift to China and you will increasingly start to hear about claims of "inherant superiority of Chinese" This is bound to happen. success can get to peoples head when they equate that with blood.

Lesson of history. We should be humble for you never know what tides of time will deliver.

 

[Aepsilons]

Extremely well argued.

IQ and EQ are both instrumental in assuring a person's happiness and ability to succeed. But humans are social animals, which may make EQ a more necessary component to living a happy and successful life. Having a high IQ will definitely offer other advantages, but EQ is more difficult to live without.

People with high EQ do not have to have high IQ to succeed because social skills in the workplace and in everyday life are constantly utilized. People with high IQ may be exceptionally brilliant at understanding information, but when it comes to social interaction they may have to work harder to make themselves understood. This is more detrimental than having a lower IQ but a high EQ.

According to a recent Forbes article: " Research carried out by the Carnegie Institute of Technology shows that 85 percent of your financial success is due to skills in “human engineering,” your personality and ability to communicate, negotiate, and lead. Shockingly, only 15 percent is due to technical knowledge. Additionally, Nobel Prize winning Israeli-American psychologist, Daniel Kahneman, found that people would rather do business with a person they like and trust rather than someone they don’t, even if the likeable person is offering a lower quality product or service at a higher price."

Intelligence Is Overrated: What You Really Need To Succeed

Let me also point something out, which as a clinical psychologist i see frequently when seeing my clients, that high IQ does not correlate or predispose to high social skills. In fact, some folks whom I deal with on regular basis who are rather introverted, have poor communication skills are blessed with extremely high IQ. Remember, if there is no communication skills , or if it is substantially weak, then one cannot expect to perform or develop the skills to grow in any organizational culture; be it in industry, in academia, et al.

It has to be a balance of emotional maturity and intellect.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Blacks perform poorly whether you put them in the least developed country in Africa or in America. They have the same opportunities as whites but are far behind.

@war is peace

Is this true?

 

[waz]

I do think certain races/nations display traits such as cohesive problem solving, which is key to building nations better than others.

 

[Aepsilons]

Very interesting...I might to delve deeper into this research thanks for the explanation...

Look forward to your response.

 

[Beidou2020]

I've seen the same thing i.e. migrants doing well from Africa. Good work ethic.

They are the smart ones. But you can't say based on a few people that blacks are as smart as whites in general.

The difference between smart blacks and smart whites is negligible.
The difference between dumb blacks and dumb whites is negligible.

But the average white is smarter than the average black.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

They are the smart ones. But you can't say based on a few people that blacks are as smart as whites in general.

The difference between smart blacks and smart whites is negligible.
The difference between dumb blacks and dumb whites is negligible.

But the average white is smarter than the average black.

I believe your alluding to the Bell Curve.

The Bell Curve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Kambojaric]

Ive lived with East Asians (Chinese and Chinese Malaysians) during my university years and they were not clean and tidy mate. Their countries might be clean because of strict policies of their governments but my other friends who were sharing flats with East Asians had similar experiances. Of course clean and unclean people exist in every community but I wouldnt say East Asians are "inherently" more cleaner. As a rule I think East Asian countries are cleaner because of more centralized government control allowing for the state to implement its policies more effectively. India Pakistan however are highly decentralized states.

Further the country whose pictures you are posting has a very low population density. Such regions are generally always very clean (again because the state can enforce its will more easily over a smaller population and educate them on basic civic duties such as cleaning up your own mess). Below are pictures of Gilgit Baltistan for example, a similar region in Pakistan with a low population density.

 

[Spectre]

Let me also point something out, which as a clinical psychologist i see frequently when seeing my clients, that high IQ does not correlate or predispose to high social skills. In fact, some folks whom I deal with on regular basis who are rather introverted, have poor communication skills are blessed with extremely high IQ. Remember, if there is no communication skills , or if it is substantially weak, then one cannot expect to perform or develop the skills to grow in any organizational culture; be it in industry, in academia, et al.

It has to be a balance of emotional maturity and intellect.

Ted Kaczynski - IQ 167
Edmund Kemper - IQ 145
Andrew Cunanan - IQ 147
Charlene Williams - IQ 160
Nathan Leopold - IQ 210
Carol Edward - IQ 150

I guess you would recognize some of these names and the deeds which they are famous for.

In general serial killers are said to have high IQ.

Common sense dictates you have to be pretty dumb to commit a premeditated crime for no tangible gains but as a professional in the field you would be better placed to comment at whether

Does high IQ play a crucial role in mental instability? or mentally unstable people are just a subset of high IQ people and there is no statistical co-relation b.w the two

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

In the field of business psychology and industrial psychology, which is my specialty, there is a growing paradigm in the importance of emotional intelligence, emotional maturity as the predictive variable in employee success , employee adaptability within the organizational culture. IQ is no longer the gold standard in determining employee adaptability. In fact this paradigm of emotional intelligence, emotional maturity is growing its its application in other fields of research such as human development, social psychology, developmental neuroscience et al..

+1, emotional maturity is #1. There's too many people out there today that behave like 5 year olds in the workplace, doesn't matter what their degree is.

 

[Adecypher]

Look forward to your response.

Definitely..

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Let me also point something out, which as a clinical psychologist i see frequently when seeing my clients, that high IQ does not correlate or predispose to high social skills. In fact, some folks whom I deal with on regular basis who are rather introverted, have poor communication skills are blessed with extremely high IQ. Remember, if there is no communication skills , or if it is substantially weak, then one cannot expect to perform or develop the skills to grow in any organizational culture; be it in industry, in academia, et al.

It has to be a balance of emotional maturity and intellect.

Very, very valid point. You mean innate ability has to be capitalized and our ability to juxtapose ourselves in social environment to gain maximum effect is contingent on the former.

Otherwise high IQ remains latent. However social skills are also another aspect of intelligence.

 

[Aepsilons]

Ive lived with East Asians (Chinese and Chinese Malaysians) during my university years and they were not clean and tidy mate. Their countries might be clean because of strict policies of their governments but my other friends who were sharing flats with East Asians had similar experiances. Of course clean and unclean people exist in every community but I wouldnt say East Asians are "inherently" more cleaner. As a rule I think East Asian countries are cleaner because of more centralized government control allowing for the state to implement its policies more effectively. India Pakistan however are highly decentralized states.

Further the country whose pictures you are posting has a very low population density. Such regions are generally always very clean (again because the state can enforce its will more easily over a smaller population and educate them on basic civic duties such as cleaning up your own mess). Below are pictures of Gilgit Baltistan for example, a similar region in Pakistan with a low population density.

I studied abroad in Heidelberg University for a summer internship, and let me tell you --- Germans are probably one of the most cleanest or at least organized people I have ever met. Probably more so than Japanese. They are, the Germans that is, very meticulous on what they do. I had a room mate in my dorm with me, he was so clean and kempt , always woke up on a particular time (6am), made his coffee pure black, no sugar. Made his bed all the time, and ironed his clothes every morning. I would sometimes just stare at him on days that i was in the room with him just to see how he folds his clothes because he had an art to it.

Germans. Definitely, they are meticulous folks.

Does high IQ play a crucial role in mental instability? or mentally unstable people are just a subset of high IQ people and there is no statistical co-relation b.w the two

There is a developing theme in personality psychology, and in behavioral psychology as in psychiatry--- on the correlation between high intelligence and bipolar disorder , and personality disorders. Interesting isn't it?

Intelligence Linked to Bipolar Disorder | Psych Central

 

[Beidou2020]

LOL @ people trying to say all races are born equal.