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the primary motivations for many remain the same; Fighting in the way of god, to receive the rewards for it. That , without any iota of a doubt and regardless of apologists remains an integral part of Islamic belief and hence.. Islamism.
@Oscar
The crux, and one that is largely understood by most non Muslims as the overpowering tenet of Islam.
To fight.
And by extension, to fight you need someone to fight.
Islam today, as it has in much of its history, has been fighting. And not selective about it. It has fought insiders with equal vigor as it has outsiders, oftentimes more so.
How then does Islam equate to the oft quoted Religion of Peace?
Sorry to say, that's a stupid question to ask after 70 years of Independence.
@scorpionx
Why not simply ask them the same here on PDF openly and see for yourself?
I asked Jamahir the same not lng ago, and he deflected with his trite socialism spiel.
Others would have their own pet subterfuges.
This motely group includes women, the educated, professionals, the so-called intelligentsia, the liberal cream of Indian Muslims. Probably your best chance.
If you find a Muslim saying India first over Islam, know that you are being lied to. There is not such thing for a Muslim. Yes, a Muslim-born who is not really a Muslim by "the book" might well answer differently.
Fact of the matter is, you cannot be a Muslim and hold your people and your nation at a level higher than Islam. You cannot hold ANYTHING higher than Islam, which is the limited point I make here. There is no place for soil, even less for blood.
Ask. Should be interesting .....
You could not answer his point, a point famously made in public by your demi-god himself. After nearly 70 years, how do you have the temerity and gall to ask this question? How, for that matter, do you evade your shameful position by asking the other person what world he lives in? What world do you live in, where you do not see the reality of a huge mass of people supportive of the common objectives and policies and ways of the country?
@Joe Shearer
Jeez! Why the prickly umbrage?
Its a simple question sir. I think we are well within our Constitutional rights of free speech and expression to ask them this question?
The answer, or lack of one, or the verbal calisthenics, should be illuminating.
Surely you would not deny an Indian the right to ask another Indian a simple plain unambiguous question?
Which do you hold higher - India or Islam?
I would settle for same same as well, but to tell you the truth, you are not going to get that either. And you know it, which I guess is part of the entire elaborate verbal fanning of the famed porcupine quills. Well sir, quills can scare, quills can poke, quills dipped in poison can kill, and quills dipped in ink can also write.
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