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Arab News : Can Pakistan afford confronting US for Iran?

But to answer your thread title question, my answer is NO. Pakistan literally cannot afford to support Iran in relation to confronting the US.

Just watch. All your preconceived notions about Pakistan will vanish.

Pakistani nation has awoken, and we won’t be controlled by anyone, neither Gulf Arabs nor US.
 
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our heroes say these things to boost moral of our country , should i bring up what your leaders said ? your lal topi wala balungra said that pakistan will be on moon by 2013 :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

He is not a leader of Pakistan, he is just a person that does TV shows and his value is not more than that. comparing Lal topi to President of India is illogical.
 
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Some Gulf Arabs are arrogant. Some of them are reasonable people. Good and bad everywhere.

If the Arabs had monarchs like the late King Faisal we would not have any problems with monarchies but the problem is they have scumbags like MBS and MBZ calling the shots.


If the leaders of Pakistan Iran and Turkey have any sense they'll stand together and face off America together. Qatar is an ally too and we could expect support from Russia and China.

The question should be wether America can afford to mess with us. Together we are very strong.

I hope IK works for that goal. That is actually the only sensible path for all Muslim states but as other muslim states are run by the stooges these four have to start the process. If the process takes a foothold in these four Muslim states inshallah it will have a domino effect in the camp run by the anti-Islamic stooges.


Just watch. All your preconceived notions about Pakistan will vanish.

Pakistani nation has awoken, and we won’t be controlled by anyone, neither Gulf Arabs nor US.

Won't you pray for us in BD who want this unity among Muslim states? Go Pakistan go! Make this happen!
 
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We don’t have good relations with US anyways. Having good relations with our neighbour won’t make the matter much worse.

We can always rely on China and if needed ask some help from Russia.
 
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Why would Pakistan confront anyone for Iran who is actively helping India to send terrorists in Baluchistan.



ISLAMABAD: At a time when Pakistan’s newly-elected government is striving to improve its foreign policy stance with the United States and Muslim countries, former ambassadors and analysts suggest exercising caution, especially in enhancing its relationship with Iran.
“Pakistan needs to review its foreign policy but it should not antagonize the United States by cozying up to Iran at this critical juncture,” Former ambassador Ayaz Wazir told Arab News.
The debate over the country’s foreign policy hit the refresh button following a two-day visit by Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif. The meeting, which concluded on Friday, also stoked a fresh controversy after Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi issued a statement supporting Iran on its nuclear deal.

Zarif visited Islamabad just days ahead of a planned visit by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for high-level talks with Prime Minister Imran Khan and his government.
“Pakistan stands with Iran in this hour of need,” Qureshi said in the backdrop of the US withdrawal from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), commonly known as the Iran nuclear agreement signed in Vienna, in July 2015, between Tehran and the P5+1.
“With regards to the JCPOA, while supporting Iran’s stance, Mr.Qureshi expressed the hope that the remaining parties to the agreement would uphold their commitments in letter and spirit,” Pakistan’s Foreign Office said.

Wazir, however, said that Pakistan’s improved relationship with Iran is of no use considering the current political climate. “Islamabad cannot increase its trade and economic activities with Tehran due to the United States’ sanctions,” he said. “Also, Iran cannot help Pakistan at any international forum due to its isolation in the international community but other Muslim countries and the US can.”

He added that Pakistan is faced with a looming balance of payment (BoP) crisis and it should look toward friendly Muslim countries, such as Saudi Arabia, to resolve the issue.
Pakistan would require the help of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank he said, adding that Pompeo has already warned that the US would be closely watching to see whether or not the IMF bails Pakistan out.

Aziz Ahmad Khan, another ex-ambassador, said that Pakistan is not in a position to irk the US at the cost of Iran and should be careful in maintaining its bilateral relationship with the latter.
“The US has withdrawn unilaterally from Iran’s nuclear deal and slapped economic sanctions on it as well. I think this should have been enough for our leadership to keep in mind while promising to stand with Iran,” he told Arab News

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Khan said that Pakistan should improve its bilateral relationship with all neighboring countries including India and Afghanistan for peace in the region. “We should not give an impression to the international community that Pakistan is trying to improve its relationship only with Iran,” he said.

Political analysts and experts of international relations also suggested that the newly-elected government keep international scenarios in mind while reviewing the country’s foreign policy.
“Everybody knows that Donald Trump is fiercely opposed to Iran and his administration will not be pleased if Pakistan tries to stand by Tehran,” Tahir Malik, professor of international relations, told Arab News.
He said that the US is a superpower and has been pushing for Pakistan to cooperate with it to stem the scourge of terrorism from the region, especially Afghanistan. “Our Foreign Office should come up with suggestions to address the US’s concerns instead of further deteriorating the relationship in the name of foreign policy,” he said.
US-Pakistan’s relations remain frosty due to a deep and longstanding trust deficit. But the US has not imposed sanctions on Islamabad and continues to engage with it at a diplomatic level.
Zafar Nawaz Jaspal, an academic and political analyst, said that Pakistan has limited clout in the international community and it is not in a position to defend Iran’s stance on the nuclear deal.

“Pakistan should try to get its house in order first and avoid interfering in matters that could cause its isolation in the international community,” he warned.
Jaspal said that the Pakistani leadership is getting a unique opportunity in the form of Pompeo’s visit next week and should focus on it.
“Pakistan cannot afford confronting the United States for Iran and it should not do this for its own interests,” he said.


http://www.arabnews.com/node/1365151/world
 
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ISLAMABAD: At a time when Pakistan’s newly-elected government is striving to improve its foreign policy stance with the United States and Muslim countries, former ambassadors and analysts suggest exercising caution, especially in enhancing its relationship with Iran.
“Pakistan needs to review its foreign policy but it should not antagonize the United States by cozying up to Iran at this critical juncture,” Former ambassador Ayaz Wazir told Arab News.
The debate over the country’s foreign policy hit the refresh button following a two-day visit by Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif. The meeting, which concluded on Friday, also stoked a fresh controversy after Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi issued a statement supporting Iran on its nuclear deal.

Zarif visited Islamabad just days ahead of a planned visit by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for high-level talks with Prime Minister Imran Khan and his government.
“Pakistan stands with Iran in this hour of need,” Qureshi said in the backdrop of the US withdrawal from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), commonly known as the Iran nuclear agreement signed in Vienna, in July 2015, between Tehran and the P5+1.
“With regards to the JCPOA, while supporting Iran’s stance, Mr.Qureshi expressed the hope that the remaining parties to the agreement would uphold their commitments in letter and spirit,” Pakistan’s Foreign Office said.

Wazir, however, said that Pakistan’s improved relationship with Iran is of no use considering the current political climate. “Islamabad cannot increase its trade and economic activities with Tehran due to the United States’ sanctions,” he said. “Also, Iran cannot help Pakistan at any international forum due to its isolation in the international community but other Muslim countries and the US can.”

He added that Pakistan is faced with a looming balance of payment (BoP) crisis and it should look toward friendly Muslim countries, such as Saudi Arabia, to resolve the issue.
Pakistan would require the help of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank he said, adding that Pompeo has already warned that the US would be closely watching to see whether or not the IMF bails Pakistan out.

Aziz Ahmad Khan, another ex-ambassador, said that Pakistan is not in a position to irk the US at the cost of Iran and should be careful in maintaining its bilateral relationship with the latter.
“The US has withdrawn unilaterally from Iran’s nuclear deal and slapped economic sanctions on it as well. I think this should have been enough for our leadership to keep in mind while promising to stand with Iran,” he told Arab News

.
Khan said that Pakistan should improve its bilateral relationship with all neighboring countries including India and Afghanistan for peace in the region. “We should not give an impression to the international community that Pakistan is trying to improve its relationship only with Iran,” he said.

Political analysts and experts of international relations also suggested that the newly-elected government keep international scenarios in mind while reviewing the country’s foreign policy.
“Everybody knows that Donald Trump is fiercely opposed to Iran and his administration will not be pleased if Pakistan tries to stand by Tehran,” Tahir Malik, professor of international relations, told Arab News.
He said that the US is a superpower and has been pushing for Pakistan to cooperate with it to stem the scourge of terrorism from the region, especially Afghanistan. “Our Foreign Office should come up with suggestions to address the US’s concerns instead of further deteriorating the relationship in the name of foreign policy,” he said.
US-Pakistan’s relations remain frosty due to a deep and longstanding trust deficit. But the US has not imposed sanctions on Islamabad and continues to engage with it at a diplomatic level.
Zafar Nawaz Jaspal, an academic and political analyst, said that Pakistan has limited clout in the international community and it is not in a position to defend Iran’s stance on the nuclear deal.

“Pakistan should try to get its house in order first and avoid interfering in matters that could cause its isolation in the international community,” he warned.
Jaspal said that the Pakistani leadership is getting a unique opportunity in the form of Pompeo’s visit next week and should focus on it.
“Pakistan cannot afford confronting the United States for Iran and it should not do this for its own interests,” he said.


http://www.arabnews.com/node/1365151/world
The time to appease the US is long gone. We no longer make policies to appease others, but only ourselves.
 
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If the Arabs had monarchs like the late King Faisal we would not have any problems with monarchies but the problem is they have scumbags like MBS and MBZ calling the shots.



I hope IK works for that goal. That is actually the only sensible path for all Muslim states but as other muslim states are run by the stooges these four have to start the process. If the process takes a foothold in these four Muslim states inshallah it will have a domino effect in the camp run by the anti-Islamic stooges.




Won't you pray for us in BD who want this unity among Muslim states? Go Pakistan go! Make this happen!

Agreed. Most important is the economic unity, it provides an interest everyone has in common.
 
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Whole world is trading with Iran , it's time we look for Pakistan's interest as well
We don't wish a war in our neighborhood , and don't wanted people being displaced due to war

Iranian have a beautiful country and we will trade 100% with Iran
Boycotting other Muslim is illegal in our religion as well

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If US has problem trading with Iran they should not trade , and they have a choice to just trade with their own local neighbors

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Cut the false bravado. Everyone. The whole world is NOT trading with Iran, and the ones currently still doing it are reducing their trade and interactions with the iranians at all levels. Stay up to date. I'm sure the iranians will make it out of this but that's their problem. European airlines have pulled out, indians despite their protestations are caving to us pressure, none of those energy projects everyone loves to talk about were or are going to be feasible for the foreseeable future, iran has nothing to offer in terms of defense/tech productions (inviting sanctions) and trade, and to top it off iran is at odds with Pak's interests but here people love to get taken by their sweet words. Pak is getting played by iran.

Even if one is to continue to the minuscule trade and relations with iran, it would've best to keep your trap shut and bash on instead of inviting needless confrontation.

Only China is in a position to continue on its terms with iran and progress at the same time.

The time to appease the US is long gone. We no longer make policies to appease others, but only ourselves.

Agreed and needed. My only contention is that iran is not the place, not because of appeasing others but because iran hasn't shown itself to aligning itself with Pak's interests. This is the same country that won't think a second before throwing Pak under the bus if it means cosying up to the same great devils (that they are) and maniacal arabs (which they are) if it means lessening their predicament.
 
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Agreed and needed. My only contention is that iran is not the place, not because of appeasing others but because iran hasn't shown itself to aligning itself with Pak's interests. This is the same country that won't think a second before throwing Pak under the bus if it means cosying up to the same great devils (that they are) and maniacal arabs (which they are) if it means lessening their predicament.
Look every country looks after their interest foremost than anyone else. It should not be different for Pakistan either. When and if the time comes Pakistan should not be hesitant to throw others under the proverbial bus as well.
 
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Look every country looks after their interest foremost than anyone else. It should not be different for Pakistan either. When and if the time comes Pakistan should not be hesitant to throw others under the proverbial bus as well.

That's the point. What interest does Pak have in giving crutches to a regime that has and continues to act against Pak's interests? And it's not like they give in anything in return. They have a trade surplus. Pakistanis don't work there. It continues to try to prop up chahbahar against Gwadar (despite their sugary rhetoric). It continues to let indians and afghans play dirty. And it continues to lob shells over into Pak and threaten Pak. I'm just saying we should stay out of this. No need to take sides for or against. Just stay out of it and only engage with iran (and all others) on Pak's interests.

This isn't about the newly minted sheikhas in the gulf. They too are a problem that need to be dealth with.
 
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