Arab-Americans

[Saif al-Arab]

Rethink that choice lol

I will try my best to never visit Australia, there's just something about it that I hate, kind of like you with Canada. I'd much rather visit New Zealand (not the same in many different ways).


And here we see people suffering from the shitty weather in Vancouver, B.C.
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But in reality, yes, it does rain a lot there but it's still one of the most liveable cities in the world, much better than any American metropolis.

I have to admit that spiders are not my thing either. Most are completely harmless though. Even the giant camel spider.

I went to school with a girl who was from New Zealand. She always praised the people and nature but personally she could not wait to leave New Zealand due to the isolation and small population. I love kiwis (the fruit, lol) so New Zealand is definitely the place to be or visit at some point. Actually a few people from the GCC study in New Zealand. A sizable community. Know a few of such people. I know that there is a sizable Iraqi community in New Zealand as well.

I have not visited Canada but I have visited a sizable number of States in the US, and as we have discussed this before If my memory serves me right, I have to say that I am a fan of the US. Speaking about weather and landscapes, then Canada cannot be compared to the US at all IMO. Totally unfair for Canada. In fact I tend to believe that Alaska has equal if not better winter landscapes than the best regions of Canada but that's just a guess.

I have heard about Vancouver but is it not located fairly closely to Seattle? The same Seattle that is known for its shitty rainy weather and depressions if I am not wrong?

The greatest contemporary Arab Americans is this guy. He is the MOST creative person in the whole world. That shows that Arab is smart.

Unfortunately, if this guy is a Muslims, it will transmit a far greater message that Islam is a religion of intellects -- or you wont have Steve Jobs and you wont have Apple.

You seem obsessed about Islam. Have you studied the Islamic Golden Age? The Islamic world is approximately 1400 years old. For half of that time, the Islamic world was the most developed region of the world. At its heart was the Arab world and so where it's scientists, intellectuals etc.

Islam for instance did not stop me from becoming a chemical engineer nor millions of other Muslims from being engaged in science or natural sciences as a whole.

For instance one of the leading theoretical physicists in the UK is an half Arab. Jim al-Khalili.

Jim Al-Khalili - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Anyway Steve Jobs was half Arab. His father was a Syrian Sunni Arab but from what I recall he was adopted as either a baby or young boy.

Nevertheless you can call him an Arab-American like almost 4 million other Americans.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

I have to admit that spiders are not my thing either. Most are completely harmless though. Even the giant camel spider.

I went to school with a girl who was from New Zealand. She always praised the people and nature but personally she could not wait to leave New Zealand due to the isolation and small population. I love kiwis (the fruit, lol) so New Zealand is definitely the place to be or visit at some point. Actually a few people from the GCC study in New Zealand. A sizable community. Know a few of such people. I know that there is a sizable Iraqi community in New Zealand as well.

I have not visited Canada but I have visited a sizable number of States in the US, and as we have discussed this before If my memory serves me right, I have to say that I am a fan of the US. Speaking about weather and landscapes, then Canada cannot be compared to the US at all IMO. Totally unfair for Canada. In fact I tend to believe that Alaska has equal if not better winter landscapes than the best regions of Canada but that's just a guess.

I have heard about Vancouver but is it not located fairly closely to Seattle? The same Seattle that is known for its shitty rainy weather and depressions if I am not wrong?



You seem obsessed about Islam. Have you studied the Islamic Golden Age? The Islamic world is approximately 1400 years old. For half of that time, the Islamic world was the most developed region of the world. At its heart was the Arab world and so where it's scientists, intellectuals etc.

Islam for instance did not stop me from becoming a chemical engineer nor millions of other Muslims from being engaged in science or natural sciences as a whole.

For instance one of the leading theoretical physicists in the UK is an half Arab. Jim al-Khalili.

Jim Al-Khalili - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anyway Steve Jobs was half Arab. His father was a Syrian Sunni Arab but from what I recall he was adopted as either a baby or young boy.

Nevertheless you can call him an Arab-American like almost 4 million other Americans.

Steve Jobs think different.

Below is among the greatest ad.

I hope Sunni will one day regain such culture. People who think different must not be beheaded or stoned.

 

[Azizam]

The greatest contemporary Arab Americans is this guy. He is the MOST creative person in the whole world. That shows that Arab is smart.

Unfortunately, if this guy is a Muslims, it will transmit a far greater message that Islam is a religion of intellects -- or you wont have Steve Jobs and you wont have Apple.

He was a biddhist though. The only buddhist arab?

 

[Ahmed Jo]

Islam for instance did not stop me from becoming a chemical engineer nor millions of other Muslims from being engaged in science or natural sciences as a whole.

You'd make a lot of money if you worked in the U.S. as a chemical engineer. I have to say I have a lot more respect for engineers lately since I learned just how much studying they have to do in university. They have no life outside of studying except eating and sleeping lol, and the stress from it all can kill them at any moment. But after graduating it's a different story. Have you found any good work opportunities in France?

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Steve Jobs think different.

Below is among the greatest ad.

I hope Sunni will one day regain such culture. People who think different must not be beheaded or stoned.

You just don't seem to understand that there can not be much focus on science or other such "projects" that can mostly only be pursued and improved in a state of peace and stability when you are surrounded by wars, conflicts, injustices, dictatorial regimes and other problematics like many Arabs face on a daily basis and have done for many years and even decades in certain countries. Let alone every day tasks such as survival or how to feet your family.

Also over 50% of the 450 million Arabs are under the age of 25 nowadays. So how about we give the chance for the current young generation to showcase their abilities?

Currently the Arab world is going through it's Dark Ages. Meaning that the period is bad for us currently but better times are for sure ahead of us.

Arabs have proved their high qualities in history in terms of science and so have our Semitic ancestors who basically founded civilization as we know it AND sciences!

Regarding your "beheading and stoning" nonsense comment I can only laugh. The Arab world is one of the most diverse places in terms of views. How about you actually get to know real Arabs or visit some forums were Arabs are present and then figure out if everyone of the 450 million Arabs are bloodthirsty ISIS members that are out there to kill you as you seem to imagine.

Also go study Islamic history and principles. No, ISIS are not representative for Islam or Muslims anymore than Nazis were representatives of Germans and German culture or Christianity.

It surprises me because many Singaporeans know Arabs well since Arabs played a key role in Singapore (for a long time Arabs owned most of Singapore) and are one of the oldest communities in Singapore although it is a small community nowadays since most moved to nearby Malaysia and Indonesia where you have millions of locals of Arab ancestry and even communities of "pure" Arabs.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

He was a biddhist though. The only buddhist arab?

This guy may be an Hindu initially but eventually become Buddhist. Strangely Apple is the only big tech who resist hiring too many Indians on the chagrin of USA government until Tim Cook took over.

Jobs did travelled to India and learn their crab like Semen retention. (read his bio).

Later Jobs forsake Hindu and go Buddhist and learn from Japanese Zen masters.

 

[Ahmed Jo]

have heard about Vancouver but is it not located fairly closely to Seattle? The same Seattle that is known for its shitty rain

Yes, for most people it is depressing but for me it's just perfect. I hate it when it's always sunny and there's clear skies, like it is most of the time in Texas.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Yes, for most people it is depressing but for me it's just perfect. I hate it when it's always sunny and there's clear skies, like it is most of the time in Texas.

I am the exact opposite. After spending over 2 years here in Denmark I cannot wait to move to a country where the sun is not only visible for a few weeks each year basically. Of course I am overreacting here but the winters and autumns are really horrible here. Windy, rainy often, short days etc. In fact I would have preferred a real winter with cold temperates and sunny weather. More continental climate in other words. Not the shitty Northern European Oceanic climate. This year the summer (the part of it where I was here) was extremely shitty and depressing too.

Sun is life, no question about that. No wonder that most people always chase the sun and warm weather.

Although the summers in KSA (non-mountanious areas) could have been a few degrees colder at their hottest but the winter, autumn and spring are absolutely stunning in most of the country. Anyway it's a land of extremes. In Northern KSA in the mountains there you can experience heavy snowfall and -15 weather during winter but "just" 300 km to the South, along the tropical Red Sea (say Haql which is a stone throw away from Eilat in Israel and Aqaba in Jordan) you can enjoy warm/sunny weather practically every single day, lol and swim with dolphins and sharks (lol) and engage in diving.

Here the weather can change 100 times in a span of 24 hours and mostly only for the worse.

Texas has a wonderful climate. Similar to many parts of KSA/ME.

Also I do not like too humid weather. This can be a problem in the coastal regions of KSA (Red Sea and Gulf) during the summer. I think that I would die if I lived in Jakarta or Singapore for instance initially but I would probably get used to it. What I cannot get used to is shitty windy, cold and rainy weather with no sun. I need sun. NOOOOOW!

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Not really an Arab American but Omar Shariff is the only Arab Actor able to break into Hollywoord big time.

Then the Arabs were being perceived as noble, honorable, but cunning and at time ruthless.

Today, the only role for Omar Shariff is probably that of shitbag nuthead terrorist. Who is at fault?

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Not really an Arab American but Omar Shariff is the only Arab Actor able to break into Hollywoord big time.

Then the Arabs were being perceived as noble, honorable, but cunning and at time ruthless.

Today, the only role for Omar Shariff is probably that of shitbag nuthead terrorist. Who is at fault?

Every people live through good and bad periods. Today the Arab world is going through hardships. After hardships success often follows.

This changes.

Once it was very fashionable in much of Europe to claim Arab ancestry or anything Arab was highly thought of (as you also allude to) and Spaniards, Portuguese, Sicilians, people of Malta, Crete, Cyprus took pride in their Arab heritage etc., many still do, but nowadays it's only about "Muslim this", "terror this" for many non-educated people but whatever. The average human is not exactly a living lexicon so I don't blame them.

Also you are wrong actually. There are quite a few famous Arab actors based in the West and also the cinema in the Arab world is quite good and it's evolving each year although also this has been hit by regression like other areas.

In reality people who would visit Arab countries and interact with the average Arab would be positively surprised and I have no doubt that it would be no differently with you. Arabs or no Arabs, the Arab world is a must visit just for the heritage and landscapes alone.

Oh, and do you really think that Russians, Chinese and Asians as a whole are much better off in the universe of Hollywood? Let alone Blacks or Latinos? What kind of role do you think such people usually play?

Also like Hollywood was important in the wider picture. Totally irrelevant in fact. Let them make movies how they want to and let people hate us 450 million Arabs if this is what they want to. This is not in our hands.

Of course we both agree with the need for reforms, removal of terrorists etc. but this is evident.

 

[Ahmed Jo]

I am the exact opposite. After spending over 2 years here in Denmark I cannot wait to move to a country where the sun is not only visible for a few weeks each year basically. Of course I am overreacting here but the winters and autumns are really horrible here. Windy, rainy often, short days etc. In fact I would have preferred a real winter with cold temperates and sunny weather. More continental climate in other words. Not the shitty Northern European Oceanic climate. This year the summer (the part of it where I was here) was extremely shitty and depressing too.

Sun is life, no question about that. No wonder that most people always chase the sun and warm weather.

Although the summers in KSA (non-mountanious areas) could have been a few degrees colder at their hottest but the winter, autumn and spring are absolutely stunning in most of the country. Anyway it's a land of extremes. In Northern KSA in the mountains there you can experience heavy snowfall and -15 weather during winter but "just" 300 km to the South, along the tropical Red Sea (say Haql which is a stone throw away from Eilat in Israel and Aqaba in Jordan) you can enjoy warm/sunny weather practically every single day, lol and swim with dolphins and sharks (lol) and engage in diving.

Here the weather can change 100 times in a span of 24 hours and mostly only for the worse.

Texas has a wonderful climate. Similar to many parts of KSA/ME.

Also I do not like too humid weather. This can be a problem in the coastal regions of KSA (Red Sea and Gulf) during the summer. I think that I would die if I lived in Jakarta or Singapore for instance initially but I would probably get used to it. What I cannot get used to is shitty windy, cold and rainy weather with no sun. I need sun. NOOOOOW!

I'll probably end up living in Aqaba despite the weather there just because it's better than most other Jordanian cities in many ways (no traffic, cheap properties, cleaner in general, the only costal city!, etc.) I'll have to get used to that persistent, angry death orb in the sky.

I know what you mean about humidity. I visited Corpus Christi in Texas and I couldn't handle it, never going back. Even in Texas there is a north-south divide haha.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Paula Abdul

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[Saif al-Arab]

I'll probably end up living in Aqaba despite the weather there just because it's better than most other Jordanian cities in many ways (no traffic, cheap properties, cleaner in general, the only costal city!, etc.) I'll have to get used to that persistent, angry death orb in the sky.

I know what you mean about humidity. I visited Corpus Christi in Texas and I couldn't handle it, never going back. Even in Texas there is a north-south divide haha.

Amman seems to have a very pleasant climate and a good location. Aqaba is similar to the coastal areas of nearby Egypt, Hijaz (KSA), Southern Israel. In fact it's probably warmer as I recently started to take a look at the temperatures of the main cities in KSA and the Arab world/MENA region and I found out that Haql for instance, although it is situated at a higher latitude than more southern located Hijazi coastal cities, it is warmer. For instance Al-Wajh has a colder climate. I found that interesting/strange but I never really found out why that is. My guess is that it's due to the Gulf of Aqaba which is kind of inclosed as a bay.



Also I read not long ago that Sana'a (located 2500 meters above sea level) and Addis Abeba in Ethiopia (2300 meters above sea level) and Abha (2500) in KSA were ranked/acknowledged as cities with some of the most pleasant weather out there temperature wise.

Addis Ababa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sana'a - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Abha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jeddah in KSA (the main coastal city of the Red Sea) has a somewhat humid climate although not comparable to the real tropics.

Enough about the temperature, tell me about the Arab-American community in Texas and how they are doing?

Paula Abdul

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She is Arab Jewish if I recall. I only remember here from that musical show that I forgot the name of currently.

Shakira is actually Arab too. The name itself is Arabic and means "thankful". She is of Lebanese ancestry just like the second richest man on the planet, Carlos Slim Helu.

There are about 30-40 million Latinos of Arab ancestry in Latin America. Not many people know this. Many famous people in Latin America are of Arab or partial Arab ancestry.

See this thread and all the links.

Arab world and Latin America cooperation thread

Besides Arabs and Chinese people have had good ties historically and especially trade ties. Nowadays China's biggest economic partner (if I am not wrong) is the Arab world or at least one of the biggest. Many Chinese also live in the GCC, mainly UAE.

In KSA there is a city called Ta'if in Hijaz (mountain city located 2000 meters above sea level)

Ta'if - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and it has a sizable Chinese community which is engaged in trade. Also there are also quite a few Saudi Arabian locals of Hui Chinese origin. Those are descendants of pilgrims from China who settled in KSA. Hijaz is actually one of the most diverse regions not only in the Muslim world but Asia as a whole. Also people from Indonesia/Malaysia of course. Actually a lot of them.

@Indos will tell you as he has relatives of Indonesian origin which are KSA citizens. They settled long ago in Hijaz which is now part of KSA. There are people from all corners of the Muslim world and even many non-Muslim areas.

@Ahmed Jo

 

[Ahmed Jo]

Amman seems to have a very pleasant climate and a good location. Aqaba is similar to the coastal areas of nearby Egypt, Hijaz (KSA), Southern Israel. In fact it's probably warmer as I recently started to take a look at the temperatures of the main cities in KSA and the Arab world/MENA region and I found out that Haql for instance, although it is situated at a higher latitude than more southern located Hijazi coastal cities, it is warmer. For instance Al-Wajh has a colder climate. I found that interesting/strange but I never really found out why that is. My guess is that it's due to the Gulf of Aqaba which is kind of inclosed as a bay.



Also I read not long ago that Sana'a (located 2500 meters above sea level) and Addis Abeba in Ethiopia (2300 meters above sea level) and Abha (2500) in KSA were ranked/acknowledged as cities with some of the most pleasant weather out there temperature wise.

Addis Ababa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sana'a - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Abha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jeddah in KSA (the main coastal city of the Red Sea) has a somewhat humid climate although not comparable to the real tropics.

Enough about the temperature, tell me about the Arab-American community in Texas and how they are doing?

Most of the Arabs in my city are Syrians, most of them very well off money wise. In fact, both of the mosques in Lubbock were built with Syrian money, or so I've heard. There is only one other Jordanian family here (there may be more that I don't know) and they happen to be from the same tribe as my own. Many Saudis but they're all international students like me. And I once saw a flag pole by a hotel that had the Omani flag raised on it, it was kind of odd. I have many relatives in Dallas and the surrounding cities. I visited Dallas on Eid last year and saw many Palestinian looking Arabs conversing in Arabic, not something I'm used to here in Lubbock.

The summary is it's basically the same as the whole US, big Arab communities situated in big cities with the majority of those Arabs being Palestinian or Lebanese (more and more Syrians lately), and of course the numerous Saudi expats who usually stay around their campus area.

As for their social standing, it's pretty good. They're not discriminated against or anything. That Sudanese clock kid was probably a one-off case.

Sorry for the late, late response.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Ahmed Zewail "father of femtochemistry" 1999 Nobel Prize in Chemistry. Hope he can come back to Arab world and impart his knowledge.