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APS carnage: SC grills PM Imran on talks with the TTP, questions govt's inaction against perpetrators

Those 4 were given death sentence by military courts

The clown courts of this chief justice later on acquitted hundreds of TTP terrorists that were given sentences by military courts
1700 by CJ Ifikhar Chaudry, later few of them did suicide attack on Musharraf.
wrong. the military establishment wants reconciliation with the ttp's elements who are not involved in heinous aps type attacks; they want to bring people who joined ttp out of sheer anger due to drone attacks back into the mainstream life.

supreme court needs to watch their steps, The Military Establishment can easily orchestrate a chittar parade for the judges followed by their dismissals.
Exactly, Imran Khan shouldn't be blamed, its military wants a truce. The military stopped him to go after TLP, military topped him go after TTP... its was time for the establishment to fully take over the country, we don't need a political system. Soon all terrorist organizations demand freedom
LHC gave orders of Shahbaz Sharif's exit too but govt stopped him at the airport by notifying him that he is not on Exit control list (court had removed his name from the list) but on another watch list, hence he could not travel abroad. It was a mistake by the hired judge or else he too would be eating pizza in London View attachment 792135

It's not up to the court to decide
Pizza isna moo sa khaya ha ?
 
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Waisay baat tu sae hai jiss speed say General sahibaan civil positions pay barajmaan ho rahay hain kisi din SC ka judge bi lag jana hai kisi nay. Ambassador tak tu pohanch gaye hain. Abi tu Bajwa Sahab nay retire hona hai yay na ho President Arif alvi ki seat gonp lay.

تب بھی پریزیڈنٹ کی سیٹ پر بھی کون سا پہلی بار کوئی جرنیل بیٹھے گا ؟ اس سے پہلے کتنے ہی جرنیل پریزیڈنٹ کی سیٹ پر بیٹھ چکے ہیں
 
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تب بھی پریزیڈنٹ کی سیٹ پر بھی کون سا پہلی بار کوئی جرنیل بیٹھے گا ؟ اس سے پہلے کتنے ہی جرنیل پریزیڈنٹ کی سیٹ پر بیٹھ چکے ہیں

Pehlay tu retire ho jaye janab mujay tu lagta hai eik aur extension aa rae hai
 
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supreme court needs to watch their steps, The Military Establishment can easily orchestrate a chittar parade for the judges followed by their dismissals.


White folks may stop the next tranche of $$$ for not maninting the rule of law facade -----. I mean every one knows Islamic societies are pretty rabid against independent judiciary but lets just keep it low profile for the sake of paying the next tesla import bill?


Otherwise g3 can move in anytime soon to take charge of even the lower courts. Appoint some laftain sahab as district judge and every kid in the family be like yeah my uncle/daddy daaaaa best! Iam "sure" laftain sahab may have read a thing or two about law in p.m.a (can do it all).
 
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The Supreme Court on Wednesday grilled Prime Minister Imran Khan over the government's inaction against those responsible for the Army Public School (APS) attack in 2014 and the ongoing talks with the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP).


A three-judge bench — headed by Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Gulzar Ahmed, and comprising Justice Qazi Mohammad Amin Ahmed and Justice Ijazul Ahsan — summoned the prime minister in connection with the case around 10am. He arrived at the court roughly two hours later, just before noon.


A total of 147 people, 132 of them children, were martyred when TTP militants stormed the APS-Warsak School, in Peshawar, in 2014. The government is in talks with the TTP over a "reconciliation process", with Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry having announced on Monday that a "complete ceasefire" had been reached with the banned outfit.

Prime Minister Imran Khan's convoy arrives at the Supreme Court. — DawnNewsTV



During the hearing, Justice Amin reminded the premier that Pakistan is not a small country. "We have the sixth largest army in the world," he said.


With regards to media reports regarding negotiations with the TTP, Justice Amin questioned whether "we are bringing them [TTP] back to the negotiating table instead of taking action against them?"


"Are we going to surrender once again?" Justice Amin asked the premier.


As the three-member bench continued to grill the premier, at one point the latter asked for a chance to speak, given that he had been summoned for the hearing.


But the judges continued to fire questions at him.


CJP Gulzar said, "You are in power. The government is also yours. What did you do? You brought those guilty to the negotiating table."


"The satisfaction of the parents [who lost their children in the APS attack] is necessary," said Justice Ahsan addressing the premier.


A day earlier, the information minister said that the government will give a chance to those factions of the TTP that are not directly involved in terrorism and are ready to honour Pakistan's Constitution and law, whereas the hardcore TTP terrorists involved in the killing of innocent people and still wanting to continue their nefarious activities will be dealt with an iron hand.


The decision was taken at a meeting of the federal cabinet presided over by Prime Minister Imran on Tuesday.


Speaking at a post-cabinet meeting press conference, Chaudhry said: "If all of them or some of them or part of them want to come back and express their allegiance to the Constitution of Pakistan and undertake to respect the law of the country, obviously, we will give them a chance."

Court directs govt to submit report

During the hearing today, the bench asked the federal government to listen to the stance of the victims' parents, saying action should be taken against anyone whose negligence was proven.


Attorney General Khalid Jawed Khan said it would have been "very easy" to register a case against then-prime minister Nawaz Sharif and then-interior minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan.


The apex court directed the government to submit its report within two weeks, but AG Khan requested the court to grant additional time. Accepting the plea, the court granted four weeks to the government.


The court inquired from Prime Minister Imran what action had been taken in the case.


Chief Justice Gulzar then picked up the Constitution book and said it guaranteed security to every citizen.


Prime Minister Imran said he had opposed Pakistan's involvement in the US war on terror during former military ruler retired Gen Pervez Musharraf's rule.


He noted that Pakistan had lost 80,000 lives to terrorism, while the National Action Plan was drafted after the APS attack. "The people were in deep trauma, they were standing behind the army in the war against terrorism."


The premier said the APS attack had been "very painful". "Our party was in power in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa when the attack took place in 2014. On the night of the tragedy, we called a meeting of our party," he added.


Prime Minister Imran said there were no "holy cows" among the names provided by the parents of the APS attack victims, seeking action against them. "You issue orders and we will take action," he told the bench.


"I want to make it clear that we have done whatever compensation we could have."


At this, the chief justice remarked that the parents wanted their children, not compensation.


Justice Ahsan then informed the prime minister that the victims' parents desired that action be taken against the officials in high-level positions at the time of the attack.

'PM respected supremacy of law'

Talking to media later, Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed said the Supreme Court had given four weeks' time to the government to finalise its report about the case. He said the premier had assured the top court of exposing everyone — "whether it is the interior minister or people of higher agencies" — found responsible for the APS attack.


He further said if the apex court sought the appearance of then-prime minister Nawaz Sharif, "the interior ministry will issue a permit and passport in 24 hours for the ex-premier to return to the country."


Meanwhile, Information Minister Chaudhry said Prime Minister Imran had once again respected the supremacy of the law by appearing before the court. He said the government would finalise its report in four weeks and submit it to the Supreme Court.


"We could have simply said the PML-N was in power at that time and accused then-PM Nawaz Sharif and the former interior minister of failure. But we realise this war is beyond individuals," he emphasised.


Crediting the National Action Plan for peace in the country, the minister said the Pakistan Army and security agencies also deserved appreciation for rendering sacrifices to protect the country.


Chaudhry said the last three years of the PTI were the "most peaceful years of Pakistan's history".


"Civil agencies, army, ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence) must be given plaudits for implementing far-sighted decisions of the country's political leadership."


He said "intelligence failures do occur" around the world, saying in one such example, five bombers living in front of the White House in the US had gone unnoticed.

Court summons PM

During the last hearing, the Supreme Court bench had directed the attorney general to inform the court about the steps taken by the government to redress the grievances of the parents of children martyred in the attack on APS on Dec 16, 2014.


He had assured the parents of the victims of the court's assistance in their efforts for acceptance of their demands.


"The AG has been put on notice on the complaints and asked to take action, as required by the law, and if those who have been named are found guilty of negligence in the performance of their duties, necessary measures should be taken," an order dictated by the chief justice said.


The court emphasised that unless some drastic efforts were made, the petitioners would not be satisfied.


In today's hearing, the chief justice asked AG Khan whether the prime minister had read the court's order in which he had directed the AG to take action on the complaints of the victims' parents.


The AG informed the court that the order had not been sent to the premier, adding that he would inform PM Imran about it.


"Is this the level of seriousness?" CJP Ahmed asked. "Call the prime minister, we will talk to him ourselves. This cannot go on."


The AG, on behalf of the government, said that "we accept all our mistakes".



The parents had demanded the registration of a first information report (FIR) against those civilian and military officials who, they believe, were responsible for security measures at the school, at the last hearing.


During the proceedings today, the AG said, "FIR could not be registered against higher-ups."

'Where does the intelligence go?'

"Where do the intelligence [agencies] disappear when it comes to the protection of their own citizens?" the chief justice asked. "Was a case registered against the former army chief and others responsible?"


The attorney general replied that the inquiry report did not find anything related to the former army chief and former director general of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).


At this, CJP Gulzar remarked, "There is such a huge intelligence system in the country. Billions of rupees are spent on it. There is also a claim that we are the best intelligence agency in the world. So much is being spent on intelligence but the results are zero."


Justice Ahsan said the institutions "should have known there would be a reaction to the operation in tribal areas".


"The easiest and most sensitive target were children," he added.

Talks with TTP

Justice Amin observed that there were reports the government is negotiating with some group — an apparent reference to the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP).


"Is it not the state's job to go after and catch the true culprits?" he questioned.


Chief Justice Ahmed remarked that the court "could not leave children to die in schools".


Action had been taken against the school's guards and soldiers, however, the accountability process should have started from the top, he added.


"The higher-ups took salaries and benefits and left."


Justice Ahsan said it was "not possible that the terrorists did not have inside support" and termed the attack a "failure of security".

Judicial commission report

On Oct 5, 2018, former chief justice of Pakistan Mian Saqib Nisar had appointed a judicial commission to probe the massacre, asking the late Peshawar High Court chief justice Waqar Ahmed Seth to nominate a PHC judge for the task.


Justice Mohammad Ibrahim Khan of the Peshawar High Court conducted the proceedings and presented the commission's report, which the Supreme Court ordered to be made public.


The commission observed in its 525-page report it was regrettable that the APS episode had tarnished the image of the armed forces. It took to task the Askari Guards, as well as the other guards on duty, for "inertia in the face of initial heavy firing by the terrorists".


The commission's report consisted of statements by the bereaved families, evidence given by the bureaucracy, the police and the military. It made a special mention of “the belated response” to the assault by the security detail and highlighted the grievances shared by parents of the Shuhada (martyred students).


"Had the force shown a little more response and could engage the militants in the very beginning of the attack, the impact of the incident might have been lesser," the report observed.


It praised the MVT-2 and the Quick Response Force for blunting the terrorists' advance towards a student block through their prompt action.


"Our country was at war with an enemy which carried out occult activities and let loose terrorism which hit the highest point in 2013-14," the report recalled. But it does not mean that our "sensitive installations and soft targets could be forsaken as a prey to terrorist attack", the commission stressed.


The report was submitted to the SC on July 9, 2020, and in August 2020, the apex court had ordered the AG to get instructions from the federal government on the report.


In September 2020, the SC had ordered the government to make the report public.

Mean while supreme court congradulated PMLN PPP and people of pakistan for their silence and complacence on killing 10,000 of civilians in drones attacks

Love you maryum nawaz 😍
Judicial system needs a revolution to get fixed. No soft hands approach. Fire them all and start from scratch.
Wait? Why? Most people love the judiciary system especially i love it..just u need the money to pay and u r golden
 
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Pakistan’s flawed justice system

https://nation.com.pk/Columnist/javid-husain
Javid Husain
June 19, 2018

The prevailing system of governance in Pakistan undeniably is both exploitative and oppressive. It is exploitative because it unduly rewards the elite with excessive economic benefits at the expense of the poor in stark contrast with the injunctions of Islam and the principles of welfare state, which call for the redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor. It is oppressive because it denies justice to the weak against the criminal excesses of the powerful in the society who can virtually get away with murder.

The elite of the society including especially senior politicians, high ranking officers of the civilian bureaucracy and armed forces, feudal landlords, and dishonest and unscrupulous officials of the judiciary are collectively responsible for this unhappy state of affairs. The need of the hour is for urgent policy measures to rectify the situation and ensure that Pakistan turns into an Islamic welfare state in its true sense where economic exploitation and social oppression of the poor and the weak come to an end, enabling them to lead their lives with dignity, develop their God-given talents, and realize their potential.


Let us examine the state of economic and social justice in Pakistan. According to the Economic Survey of Pakistan for 2017-18, about 24.3% of the people lived below the poverty line defined as income of Rs.3030 per month in 2015-16. However, the percentage of people living below the poverty line would increase to 60% if it is defined as income of $60 or Rs.7200 per month. This is shameful to say the least. Besides low level of development, extreme inequalities of income and wealth in Pakistan are responsible for this dismal state of affairs. A few examples would help drive home this point.

The total maximum salary of an officer in BPS-22, the highest grade in the Pakistan government service, is reportedly around Rs.300,000 per month including basic salary, allowances, and other perks and privileges. This is almost 18 times the monthly average income of Rs.16400 in Pakistan assuming that its GDP per capita is $1640. The total monthly salary of a High Court or Supreme Court judge including basic salary, allowances, perks and privileges reportedly varies from 80 to 100 times the monthly average income in Pakistan. By way of comparison, the annual salary of a judge of the American Supreme Court is reported to be US$244,000, which is just four times the GDP per capita in the US amounting to US$60,000.

There are also various surreptitious ways in which the elite in Pakistan are enriching themselves at the expense of the poor and the downtrodden. The allotment of residential, commercial, and agricultural plots to senior civil, military and judicial officers out of the state land, which is the asset of the people of Pakistan, at throwaway prices is an example of the blatant manner in which they are robbing the nation for their personal benefits. In a welfare state, redistribution of wealth is from the rich to the poor. Pakistan is one of those rare countries where the reverse is the norm.

Every allotment of a one-kanal plot of state land in a posh area in Islamabad, Lahore or Karachi to a senior civil, judicial or military officer means that roughly an amount of Rs.20 million has been taken out of the pockets of the poor people of the country for the benefit of the rich and the powerful. In this manner, over the past few decades hundreds of billions of rupees have been looted from the nation by the powerful sections of our society. In my view, this is legalized corruption, that is, a corrupt or unfair practice which has been given the cover of laws and rules.

The situation becomes even more disturbing if one takes into account the sad reality that the incidence of taxes is mostly on the less well-to-do classes instead of the rich. Out of the total expected tax revenues of Rs.4435 billion in the budget for 2018-19, indirect taxes, which are regressive in nature with greater incidence on the relatively less well-to-do sections of the society, would amount to Rs.2700 billion or about 61% of the expected total tax revenues. So the powerful sections of the society are not only robbing the nation directly and surreptitiously, they are also making the weak and the poor carry most of the burden of payment of taxes.

As a result of Pakistan’s under-development which is reflected in the extremely low level of its per capita income ($1640), and corrupt and unfair practices leading to vast inequalities of income and wealth, about 60% of its people are living below the poverty line, as pointed out earlier. According to the UN Human Development Report, Pakistan is ranked at No. 147 out of 188 countries, with human development index of 0.550, which is below that of India and even Bangladesh. We spend only 2.2% of our GDP on education as against the UNESCO recommended norm of 4% and much higher corresponding figures for rapidly developing countries like South Korea. Our national expenditure on health is only 0.9% of our GDP. The net result is that we are turning into a nation of illiterate and semi-literate people with stunted physical and intellectual growth.

The responsibility for the absence of economic and social justice lies collectively with Pakistan’s elite or ruling classes including especially senior politicians, high ranking officers of Pakistan’s civilian bureaucracy, armed forces and judiciary, and feudal landlords. Successive governments and parliaments in the country have failed to promulgate laws and adopt policy measures to ensure economic and social justice to the common man in the country. VIP culture and discriminatory practices in the application of law have further aggravated the climate of injustice from which the masses continue to suffer. Unfortunately, the performance of our law enforcement authorities, accountability institutions, and judiciary, especially at the lower levels, leaves a lot to be desired. In particular, the police is in need of radical reforms to make it efficient and people-friendly in the performance of its duties to enforce laws and check criminal activities.

As for the judiciary, one cannot but admire the energy and dedication with which the incumbent Chief Justice of Pakistan is trying to ensure the protection of fundamental rights as enshrined in the constitution and check incidents of bad governance and corruption in various institutions of state. This is not to claim, however, that everything is in perfect shape in the judiciary. In fact, the judiciary, which is the ultimate authority responsible for dispensing justice, itself is badly in need of reforms to ensure that justice is delivered to plaintiffs in an impartial, apolitical, speedy, and fair manner. In particular, the working of lower level judiciary suffers from reports of rampant corruption and inefficiency. There are frequent reports that judges at lower levels fail to apply their mind or indulge in corrupt practices while issuing legally unjustified stay orders resulting in avoidable prolonged litigation and hardship to those affected adversely by them.

The situation is much better in the case of the superior judiciary but there is room for improvement here also. For example, some Pakistani jurists have publicly called for the formulation of objective and precise criteria for action by the Supreme Court under Article 184(3) of the Constitution to minimize the elements of uncertainty, arbitrariness, and selectivity in its application. In particular, the Supreme Court needs to thrash out the seven questions raised by Justice Faez Isa on the subject in the disqualification case of Sheikh Rasheed to ensure greater clarity, certainty and consistency in its working and verdicts.

The writer is a retired ambassador and the president of the Lahore Council for World Affairs.
javid.husain@gmail.com
 
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Wait? Why? Most people love the judiciary system especially i love it..just u need the money to pay and u r golden

I know you are being sarcastic but this is perhaps the most life threatening issue being faced by Pakistan. This goes beyond any other national security threat and needs to be treated as such. Protecting the fundamental human rights of Pakistani people needs to be a higher priority than protecting our nuclear weapons and borders.
 
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