Apple and DHS deny China chip hacking of servers

[gambit]

I know you hate China and most Chinese people because of personal reasons but please stop saying your China. It is unnecessary. I am here to discuss things politely and civilised. I do not insult you.

Using 'your China' is not an insult. You are Chinese, correct? And if you are in this forum speaking for your country, then it is 'your China'. There is no 'insult' here. Stop being so sensitive.

There are always negative comments about Chinese and China, if the same were for Vietnam you will cry everyday.

I am not here to speak for Viet Nam. I am a US citizen and am here to speak for the US.

We have thick skin...

No, as demonstrated by your fellow Chinese here, you do not.

The way I see it, if the US can withstand all the negative comments about itself, from its own people and from foreigners, China should be equally stout. But you are not so strong?

 

[serenity]

Using 'your China' is not an insult. You are Chinese, correct? And if you are in this forum speaking for your country, then it is 'your China'. There is no 'insult' here. Stop being so sensitive.


I am not here to speak for Viet Nam. I am a US citizen and am here to speak for the US.


No, as demonstrated by your fellow Chinese here, you do not.

The way I see it, if the US can withstand all the negative comments about itself, from its own people and from foreigners, China should be equally stout. But you are not so strong?

Okay I may have misunderstood you. Believe me this is a useless childlike strength to have I thought you were just using it as insult so my mistake.

I do not like this you are part of some group therefore all your thoughts and opinions are identical to that group. Chinese people have wide range of opinions. I know this. Whatever internet people say doesn't change truth. So I cannot speak for all Chinese people and therefore I'm not representing or speaking for China. This is a unintelligent way of thinking especially in a discussion.

Chinese Weibo is filled with negative comments about Chinese people from Chinese people. But we can choose to believe anything we want. I always see Americans encouraging each other and telling each other how good they are as well so this is universal. Some people are pro and some are against. It's all okay and natural.

I don't htink it's fair to say this first sentence. I can also say as demonstrated by all your fellow americans or all your fellow viets or all your fellow indians or all your fellow pakistanis .... on and on and then say they are weak and thin skinned. It is big statement and unprovable. Sure some are sensitive and weak and stupid members but there are many that are not. None of them represent the entire population.

Now I think we are very far off track but I feel that needed to be corrected.

Also people who like using the statement "stop being so sensitive" are trying to pick a wound. It is a sentence that can be used anywhere. You can say anything to correct or defend a comment and I can say stop being so sensitive. This sentence shouldn't exist in civilised discussion because it implies one person is too emotional and sensitive. I hope you don't still think i am. For the your china thing I just misunderstood your intention because i find it strange that you think i am speaking for all chinese members. I don't view the world like that. I am human just like you. We are brothers working out many sets of problems that threaten our mutual existence and happiness.

We can extend some respect to each other and make this very difficult process just a little bit easier. You are too. I appreciate your views on most discussions and you offer very good alternative perspectives and you often correct wrong things. But I also understand you have a deep dislike of Chinese like many Americans. I can understand on several levels. There are many good explanations for that and not all of them fair on Chinese people. But it is what it is today.

 

[gambit]

I am not expert or know about this just what I read somewhere but here it is. Maybe it is not accurate.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...-investigation-casts-doubt-on-storys-veracity

"As Fitzpatrick notes, there are easier, more cost-effective methods of attaining backdoor access into a target computer network."

Your source -- Mr. Fitzpatrick -- is reasonable.

However, it cannot be dismissed that it was Amazon who reported the suspicious component, as reported by the third party testers that Amazon employed, and Amazon reported the finding to the US government, who undoubtedly done their own investigation.

In espionage, the further you are away from the source, the easier it is to compromise the information but there is a higher risk that the information you seek maybe altered in some ways.

That is why we have something like this...

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/15/russia_cable_chop_warning_chief_of_defence_staff/

Accessing the cable is only one degree away from being at the source itself. If I cannot access the computer in your house, the next best thing is the data cable outside your house.

If this report is true, this is equivalent to China having access to my computer whenever I turn it on. This is bypassing the operating system, no matter what, Windows or Linux or anything else.

 

[zectech]

Step one: put out lies and have China and the corporations tell the Truth
Step two: have the corporations join the lies and accuse China
Step three: big fake news event

If these corporations do what they are told by their zionist bosses, then they will eventually lie about China having some grand scheme to hack.

It is another psy-op by the Washington criminals. Everything they do is a psy-op to lie, cheat, steal, rape, murder, genocide and warmonger.

 

[jhungary]

Yayayya bla bla bla bla bla, nobody wants to listen to your textwall of self-concoted bullshit.

Now go jerk off @jhungary. Rem to wash your hands afterwards

It's seems you need a jerk a LOT more than me.

I just had sex this even, I don't know if you even have a girl fiend (or boyfriend) to begin with.

Your source -- Mr. Fitzpatrick -- is reasonable.

However, it cannot be dismissed that it was Amazon who reported the suspicious component, as reported by the third party testers that Amazon employed, and Amazon reported the finding to the US government, who undoubtedly done their own investigation.

In espionage, the further you are away from the source, the easier it is to compromise the information but there is a higher risk that the information you seek maybe altered in some ways.

That is why we have something like this...

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/15/russia_cable_chop_warning_chief_of_defence_staff/

Accessing the cable is only one degree away from being at the source itself. If I cannot access the computer in your house, the next best thing is the data cable outside your house.

If this report is true, this is equivalent to China having access to my computer whenever I turn it on. This is bypassing the operating system, no matter what, Windows or Linux or anything else.

To begin, it mean jack shit.

DHS denied report that China is hacking apple cloud server does not mean the Chinese aren't hacking these server, it only mean that they cannot proof it was the Chinese.

In espionage, one thing we intelligence type people usually do is called "Proxy Attack". Which mean you can launch an attack and it cannot trace it back to you, but that does not mean you did not launch this attack.

Now, I don't know whether or not this is the case or the Chinese didn't actually hack these server, and honestly, I don't really care about that.

 

[TaiShang]

This fake news is in fact US domestic politics pretending to foreign politics.

So, we need to analyze US domestic regime to understand and devise correct response.

US politics is monied and for sale. Then, if one faction turns hostile and is against your national interests, you just buy off the rival faction.

This is how it is done in the US. This is how many foreign governments with enough cash do. Buy the US politics off.

China needs to learn the game