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P Chidambaram has warned Pakistan against meddling in India's affairs and said any more terror, according to news reports. "We have been gaining strength day by day to counter terrorism from across the border. I have been warning Pakistan not to play games with us. (I have told them that) the last game should be Mumbai attacks. Stop it there," he told a public meeting in his home state of Madras last night.

The tough talk by Chida is nothing but a smokescreen to divert attention from India's ongoing covert war against Pakistan that is causing daily civilian carnage.

Pakistan's unambiguous response should be to call Chida's bluff by giving an ultimatum to India to stop using TTP and BLF to kill innocent Pakistanis, or be prepared to face the consequences.

Haq's Musings: Taliban or RAW-liban?
 
P Chidambaram has warned Pakistan against meddling in India's affairs and said any more terror, according to news reports. "We have been gaining strength day by day to counter terrorism from across the border. I have been warning Pakistan not to play games with us. (I have told them that) the last game should be Mumbai attacks. Stop it there," he told a public meeting in his home state of Madras last night.

The tough talk by Chida is nothing but a smokescreen to divert attention from India's ongoing covert war against Pakistan that is causing daily civilian carnage.

Pakistan's unambiguous response should be to call Chida's bluff by giving an ultimatum to India to stop using TTP and BLF to kill innocent Pakistanis, or be prepared to face the consequences.

Haq's Musings: Taliban or RAW-liban?

This article is has no credibility, There is no distinction between good and bad taliban as both are there to spread violence to some extent.
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Haterd at its best ! when will the words of peace come out there mouth ? when will the word of friendship come out of there mouth ? when will they understand the wot is a international war growing in many nations when will they join hands in fighting these bastards that try to break us! we must seek peace and friendship ! we must seek to work togehter rather then using big words that only come out from the rear end ! :whistle: anyhow i sure hope there is peace soon rather then wishing for war when we all will get wasted.... :tdown:
 
Here's a view of India's involvement with the Taliban to foment trouble in Pakistan as seen by Laura Rozen in her article in Foreign Policy Magazine:

While the U.S. media has frequently reported on Pakistani ties to jihadi elements launching attacks in Afghanistan, it has less often mentioned that India supports insurgent forces attacking Pakistan, the former intelligence official said. "The Indians are up to their necks in supporting the Taliban against the Pakistani government in Afghanistan and Pakistan," the former (US) intelligence official who served in both countries said. "The same anti-Pakistani forces in Afghanistan also shooting at American soldiers are getting support from India. India should close its diplomatic establishments in Afghanistan and get the Christ out of there."

There are strong indications that the Indian security and intelligence establishment has finally launched the covert war in Pakistan that they have been planning for about a year. The Indian officials have been seething since last year because of their inability to "punish" Pakistan following the Mumbai terrorist attacks that they blamed on Pakistan. They shelved the idea of lightning air strikes strategy dubbed "Cold Start" against Pakistan for fear of sparking a major war. But they have continued to talk about covert actions by Indian agents to destabilize and balkanize Pakistan. Former RAW chief B. Raman has argued that India appoint a covert ops specialist as the new head of RAW. He said last December that “at this critical time in the nation’s history, RAW has no covert action specialists at the top of its pyramid. Get a suitable officer from the IB or the Army. If necessary, make him the head of the organization.”

K.C. Verma, a former IB official and a RAW outsider, was appointed earlier this year as the new head of RAW. This choice appears to have been made at the suggestion of intelligence hawks like B. Raman to appoint an outsider, in spite of significant resistance from within the agency. Mr. Verma has been tasked with rapidly building strong covert ops capabilities within RAW. It is not a coincidence that the terrorist attacks in Pakistan have dramatically increased since Verma took the reins of RAW.

Indians have demonstrated that they have the strong motives and the means to hurt Pakistan. They have established a powerful presence in Afghanistan along the border with Pakistan and deployed significant resources to carry out a very violent covert war inside Pakistan, and they appear to have now found the opportunity among the willing allies in the Pakistani Taliban faction in Mehsud tribe.

Haq's Musings: Taliban or RAW-liban?

Haq's Musings: India's Covert War in Pakistan
 
:agree: let your new master vacate Afghanistan whenever and let us clean the mess then you would see Indian engagment vanishing in virtual pain for her

What would make you think Pakistan do any thing in Afghanistan,,,Pakistan cant even control the radicals in Pakistan
 
chadi padi is nothing but an retard all he see is ISI OR PAKISTAN.I wonder where he get his retarded intellegence from??? :hitwall:raw a terrorist organization.Which couldnt even stop 10 guys coming in a rag tag boat from karachi LOL was muD navy along with cost nt coast guards sleeping....Wat is he going to do?while under his black hiddious face and evil dirty mind indi land is taliban as there weapons of mass destruction along with BLA TERRORIST SCUMs..... I think if rehman m couldnt say anything he should be removed while his counterpart ...... is yaping abt relatiation ... should know we aint sleepin u chadi dont try to be victims(tears of a bloody croc)bloody chedi should mind his language bloody .... VIVA PAKISTAN:pakistan:
 
He is just saying this to get more popular in india. Were it to come to the actual event, he would simply tighten his dhoti and take a leap in ganga to protect himself.
 
good for him. We will wait for that day.
He who makes such statements thinking only domestic audience will hear and international media will not, is as stupid and idiot as Mr Rahman Malik.

another 26\11 and you will be getting the response we desire to give
 
and wat is your desire???:what: ithought you people desired alot even the last time,but then desires are desires:mamba: they dont realize all the time:hang2:,specially when we are on the other side:azn::azn:
 
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Mr Chidambaram’s War

By Arundhati Roy

Saturday, 31 Oct, 2009

The low, flat-topped hills of south Orissa have been home to the Dongria Kondh long before there was a country called India or a state called Orissa. The hills watched over the Kondh. The Kondh watched over the hills and worshipped them as living deities. Now these hills have been sold for the bauxite they contain.

Perhaps the Kondh are supposed to be grateful that their Niyamgiri hill, home to Niyam Raja, their ‘god of universal law’, has been sold to a company with a name like Vedanta (the branch of Hindu philosophy that teaches the Ultimate Nature of Knowledge).



It’s one of the biggest mining corporations in the world and is owned by Anil Aggarwal, the Indian billionaire who lives in London in a mansion that once belonged to the Shah of Iran. Vedanta is only one of the many multinational corporations closing in on Orissa.

If the flat-topped hills are destroyed, the forests that clothe them will be destroyed too. So will the rivers and streams that flow out of them and irrigate the plains below. So will the Dongria Kondh. So will the hundreds of thousands of tribal people who live in the forested heart of India, and whose homeland is similarly under attack.

In our smoky, crowded cities, some people say, ‘So what? Someone has to pay the price of progress.’ Some even say, ‘Let’s face it, these are people whose time has come. Look at any developed country, Europe, the US, Australia — they all have a ‘past’.’

Indeed they do. So why shouldn’t ‘we’? In keeping with this line of thought, the government has announced Operation Green Hunt, a war purportedly against the ‘Maoist’ rebels headquartered in the jungles of central India.

Of course, the Maoists are by no means the only ones rebelling. There is a whole spectrum of struggles all over the country that people are engaged in — the landless, the Dalits, the homeless, workers, peasants, weavers.

They’re pitted against a juggernaut of injustices, including policies that allow a wholesale corporate takeover of people’s land and resources. However, it is the Maoists who the government has singled out as being the biggest threat.


Two years ago, when things were nowhere near as bad as they are now, the prime minister described the Maoists as the ‘single-largest internal security threat’ to the country.

This will probably go down as the most popular and often-repeated thing he ever said. For some reason, the comment he made on January 6, 2009, at a meeting of state chief ministers, when he described the Maoists as having only ‘modest capabilities’ doesn’t seem to have had the same raw appeal.

He revealed his government’s real concern on June 18, 2009, when he told parliament: ‘If left-wing extremism continues to flourish in parts which have natural resources of minerals, the climate for investment would certainly be affected.’

At current market rates, the minerals in the region have been valued not in millions but in trillions of dollars.

Right now in central India, the Maoists’ guerrilla army is made up almost entirely of desperately poor tribal people living in conditions of such chronic hunger that it verges on famine of the kind we only associate with sub-Saharan Africa.

They are people who, even after 60 years of India’s so-called independence, have not had access to education, healthcare or legal redress. They are people who have been mercilessly exploited for decades, consistently cheated by small businessmen and moneylenders, the women raped as a matter of right by police and forest department personnel.

Their journey back to a semblance of dignity is due in large part to the Maoist cadre who have lived and worked and fought by their side for decades.

If the tribals have taken up arms, they have done so because a government which has given them nothing but violence and neglect now wants to snatch away the last thing they have — their land. Clearly, they do not believe the government when it says it only wants to ‘develop’ their region.

Clearly, they do not believe that the roads as wide and flat as aircraft runways that are being built through their forests in Dantewada by the National Mineral Development Corporation are being built for them to walk their children to school on. They believe that if they do not fight for their land, they will be annihilated. That is why they have taken up arms.

MoUist corridor
The forest once known as the Dandakaranya, which stretches from West Bengal through Jharkhand, Orissa, Chhattisgarh, parts of Andhra Pradesh and Maharashtra, is home to millions of India’s tribal people.

The media has taken to calling it the Red corridor or the Maoist corridor. It could just as accurately be called the MoUist corridor. It doesn’t seem to matter at all that the Fifth Schedule of the Constitution provides protection to adivasi people and disallows the alienation of their land.

It looks as though the clause is there only to make the Constitution look good — a bit of window-dressing, a slash of make-up. Scores of corporations, from relatively unknown ones to the biggest mining companies and steel manufacturers in the world, are in the fray to appropriate adivasi homelands — the Mittals, Jindals, Tata, Essar, Posco, Rio Tinto, BHP Billiton and, of course, Vedanta.There’s an MoU on every mountain, river and forest glade.

We’re talking about social and environmental engineering on an unimaginable scale. And most of this is secret. It’s not in the public domain. Somehow I don’t think that the plans that are afoot to destroy one of the world’s most pristine forests and ecosystems, as well as the people who live in it, will be discussed at the Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen.

Our 24-hour news channels that are so busy hunting for macabre stories of Maoist violence — and making them up when they run out of the real thing — seem to have no interest at all in this side of the story. I wonder why?


Perhaps it’s because the development lobby to which they are so much in thrall says the mining industry will ratchet up the rate of GDP growth dramatically and provide employment to the people it displaces. This does not take into account the catastrophic costs of environmental damage. But even on its own narrow terms, it is simply untrue.

Most of the money goes into the bank accounts of the mining corporations. Less than 10 per cent comes to the public exchequer. A very tiny percentage of the displaced people get jobs, and those who do, earn slave-wages to do humiliating, backbreaking work.

By caving in to this paroxysm of greed, we are bolstering other countries’ economies with our ecology. The mining companies desperately need this ‘war’. It’s an old technique. They hope the impact of the violence will drive out the people who have so far managed to resist the attempts that have been made to evict them.

Whether this will indeed be the outcome, or whether it’ll simply swell the ranks of the Maoists remains to be seen.

The real problem is that the flagship of India’s miraculous ‘growth’ story has run aground. It came at a huge social and environmental cost. And now, as the rivers dry up and forests disappear, as the water table recedes and as people realise what is being done to them, the chickens are coming home to roost.

All over the country, there’s unrest, there are protests by people refusing to give up their land and their access to resources, refusing to believe false promises any more. Suddenly, it’s beginning to look as though the 10 per cent growth rate and democracy are mutually incompatible.

Militarisation

To get the bauxite out of the flat-topped hills, to get iron ore out from under the forest floor, to get 85 per cent of India’s people off their land and into the cities (which is what Home Minister Chidambaram says he’d like to see), India has to become a police state.

The government has to militarise. To justify that militarisation, it needs an enemy. The Maoists are that enemy. They are to corporate fundamentalists what the Muslims are to Hindu fundamentalists. (Is there a fraternity of fundamentalists? Is that why the RSS has expressed open admiration for Mr Chidambaram?)


It would be a grave mistake to imagine that the paramilitary troops, the Rajnandgaon air base, the Bilaspur brigade headquarters, the Unlawful Activities Act, the Chhattisgarh Special Public Security Act and Operation Green Hunt are all being put in place just to flush out a few thousand Maoists from the forests.

In all the talk of Operation Green Hunt, whether or not Mr Chidambaram goes ahead and ‘presses the button’, I detect the kernel of a coming state of emergency. (Here’s a math question: If it takes 600,000 soldiers to hold down the tiny valley of Kashmir, how many will it take to contain the mounting rage of hundreds of millions of people?)
Instead of narco-analysing Kobad Gandhy, the recently arrested Maoist leader, it might be a better idea to talk to him.

In the meanwhile, will someone who’s going to the Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen later this year please ask the only question worth asking: Can we leave the bauxite in the mountain?

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect.../world/12-mr+chidambarams+war--bi-11]DAWN.COM | World | Mr Chidambaram?s War

Actually the leftist b**** is partly right ,partly wrong .
 
another 26\11 and you will be getting the response we desire to give

All this sabre rattling by Pakistani and Indian posters here is childish and immature. The Interior Minister was also badly timed in releasing his statement. Considering the war on terror in Pakistan which is going on, the loss of lives by innocent Pakistanis and the destruction of property in that country by extremists I would say that India should be more sensitive to the going ons. Pakistani computer warriors and policy makers posting on this forum and Indian foreign policy experts and defence specialists posting here should remember that India bled during 26/11 as America bled during 9/11 and as Pakistan bleeds during the suicide attacks by terrorists on its soil on a daily basis. The loss of lives and destruction of property in all 3 nations are equally painful in all instances. Instead of uniting and saying "let's jointly wipe out these threats to our existence" the immature Indian and Pakistani posters here draw their imaginary swords. In most likelihood even if the nations went to war the chances are that the most vocal supporters of war in these postings will try to avoid conscription or joining the army and instead want to witness the war on their tv screens. So do stop trying to analyse how the thousands of soldiers posted on the fronts will win the war for you. Their families and loved ones would rather that they come home safe and sound than have to die in an excursion in a foreign land. Dulce et decorum est pro patria morae is best sung by politicians and internet forum posters. I seriously doubt that most of the people of any nation subscribe to that thought :undecided:
 
All this sabre rattling by Pakistani and Indian posters here is childish and immature. The Interior Minister was also badly timed in releasing his statement. Considering the war on terror in Pakistan which is going on, the loss of lives by innocent Pakistanis and the destruction of property in that country by extremists I would say that India should be more sensitive to the going ons. Pakistani computer warriors and policy makers posting on this forum and Indian foreign policy experts and defence specialists posting here should remember that India bled during 26/11 as America bled during 9/11 and as Pakistan bleeds during the suicide attacks by terrorists on its soil on a daily basis. The loss of lives and destruction of property in all 3 nations are equally painful in all instances. Instead of uniting and saying "let's jointly wipe out these threats to our existence" the immature Indian and Pakistani posters here draw their imaginary swords. In most likelihood even if the nations went to war the chances are that the most vocal supporters of war in these postings will try to avoid conscription or joining the army and instead want to witness the war on their tv screens. So do stop trying to analyse how the thousands of soldiers posted on the fronts will win the war for you. Their families and loved ones would rather that they come home safe and sound than have to die in an excursion in a foreign land. Dulce et decorum est pro patria morae is best sung by politicians and internet forum posters. I seriously doubt that most of the people of any nation subscribe to that thought :undecided:

nice to see somebody talking sense:tup: 100%ly agree with you.
 
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All this sabre rattling by Pakistani and Indian posters here is childish and immature. The Interior Minister was also badly timed in releasing his statement. Considering the war on terror in Pakistan which is going on, the loss of lives by innocent Pakistanis and the destruction of property in that country by extremists I would say that India should be more sensitive to the going ons. Pakistani computer warriors and policy makers posting on this forum and Indian foreign policy experts and defence specialists posting here should remember that India bled during 26/11 as America bled during 9/11 and as Pakistan bleeds during the suicide attacks by terrorists on its soil on a daily basis. The loss of lives and destruction of property in all 3 nations are equally painful in all instances. Instead of uniting and saying "let's jointly wipe out these threats to our existence" the immature Indian and Pakistani posters here draw their imaginary swords. In most likelihood even if the nations went to war the chances are that the most vocal supporters of war in these postings will try to avoid conscription or joining the army and instead want to witness the war on their tv screens. So do stop trying to analyse how the thousands of soldiers posted on the fronts will win the war for you. Their families and loved ones would rather that they come home safe and sound than have to die in an excursion in a foreign land. Dulce et decorum est pro patria morae is best sung by politicians and internet forum posters. I seriously doubt that most of the people of any nation subscribe to that thought :undecided:

Where was all this when Indian innocents were dying ?
Where was all this when Kargil occured ?
Where was this when the attack on parliament occured?
Where was this during 1965?
Will all this come when in you are in a tight spot?

26\11 hit too badly on the indian psyche.

Another 26\11 if the GoI doesn't retaliate.It is political sucide for the party in power
 
Another 26\11 if the GoI doesn't retaliate.It is political sucide for the party in power

Very true...India will have to retaliate but is there any reason to boast about it??? I dont think there is any...The need of the hour is to improve your internal security and god forbids if anything like 26/11 happens then do what a nation should do to defend her people and dignity.

However why to aleniate anyone by making offensive comments when the writing is on the wall....We need to get out of what Pak did and did not...There is a big difference between Pak and India which is that we are a proud democracy and unfortunately most of the time since independence they are under dictators rule and thus out responses to same issue should be different.In other words statements should sound mature reflecting a mature society.....This particular statement by Mr. Chidambram is indeed misplaced...

I have high regards for Mr. Chidambram so want to give him benefit of doubt..My personal views are may be GOI is trying to make message crystal clear amid multiple reports from multiple agencies that LET is planning more 26/11 type attacks...even though we can debate the way message could/should be delivered
 
another 26\11 and you will be getting the response we desire to give


Be our guest and make sure that with all the bs that you are throwing here like a macko maniac you are there to get your @$$ handed to you and so that you would realize once and for good that how it is done. And one should not just talk the talk but walk the walk too, cause actions always speak louder then words.
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