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Yes,Tamils are called as ''pandi"' in Kerala,But it has nothing to do with pigs..Pandy means those coming from old pandiyan region(madurai),because most Tamil workers coming to Kerala were from Madurai belt..just like Kannadigas call Tamils as '"konga''peoples hailing from kongunadu region of Tamilnadu,ie salem -kovai belt..please,don't misunderstand us..
 
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Yes,Tamils are called as ''pandi"' in Kerala,But it has nothing to do with pigs..Pandy means those coming from old pandiyan region(madurai),because most Tamil workers coming to Kerala were from Madurai belt..just like Kannadigas call Tamils as '"konga''peoples hailing from kongunadu region of Tamilnadu,ie salem -kovai belt..please,don't misunderstand us..
Even most of the maravars/thevars carry the name pandiyan behind their names as an honor. Even while interacting with people irrespective of their names, an easy dialogue would be "hi pandian, how r u?... Reply would be "i am fine pandiyan" this is very casual in the south between tamil Maravars/mukkulathors and we feel proud while we are called pandiyan. It's worthless to continue conversation with a fool who believes anyone against indian govt is christians or muslims.
 
I've heard "Hey paandi, take your vandi, go to Ootty, Wash your kundi" - may be derogatory for Tamils.
 
I've heard "Hey paandi, take your vandi, go to Ootty, Wash your kundi" - may be derogatory for Tamils.
No one have balls to say that in our land. No need to talk about ball less mallus, it's well renowned what their woman are doing in gulf. Pathetic pimps, who are ruled by everyone.
 
The JNU students have taken a great step against the tyrannical Brahimin/RSS Fascist, Communal Anti India forces and must be encouraged. The other Hindus must break the shackles of slavery which is dividing them in inhumane cast system of Brahmin Fascist forces.
 
Even most of the maravars/thevars carry the name pandiyan behind their names as an honor. Even while interacting with people irrespective of their names, an easy dialogue would be "hi pandian, how r u?... Reply would be "i am fine pandiyan" this is very casual in the south between tamil Maravars/mukkulathors and we feel proud while we are called pandiyan. It's worthless to continue conversation with a fool who believes anyone against indian govt is christians or muslims.

Its funny how you take pride in the name Pandiyan ....... do you know where that name is first recorded ? In the "Hindian" Litrature. Its first mentioned in the Ramayana by Sugriva along with Chera (Kerala) kingdom. :devil:

Ever wonder why you have a city called Mathura in TN (which has now become Madurai) which was the capital of Pandiyan kingdom.

Ever wonder why the Greek traveller Megasthenes in his Indika spoke about the daughter of Krishna being married into the Pandiyan kingdom ? Why the Mahabharat speaks of the second king of the pandiyan dynasty as fighting in the war ?

Conversations are among equals so there is no conversation here.

No one have balls to say that in our land. No need to talk about ball less mallus, it's well renowned what their woman are doing in gulf. Pathetic pimps, who are ruled by everyone.

@moopan ........... You are a mallu so I think this is directed at you.

He thinks you are a pimp and your women are doing something nasty in the 'gelf'. Do you agree with him ? :lol:
 
Its funny how you take pride in the name Pandiyan ....... do you know where that name is first recorded ? In the "Hindian" Litrature. Its first mentioned in the Ramayana by Sugriva along with Chera (Kerala) kingdom. :devil:

Ever wonder why you have a city called Mathura in TN (which has now become Madurai) which was the capital of Pandiyan kingdom.

Ever wonder why the Greek traveller Megasthenes in his Indika spoke about the daughter of Krishna being married into the Pandiyan kingdom ? Why the Mahabharat speaks of the second king of the pandiyan dynasty as fighting in the war ?

Conversations are among equals so there is no conversation here.



@moopan ........... You are a mallu so I think this is directed at you.

He thinks you are a pimp and your women are doing something nasty in the 'gelf'. Do you agree with him ? :lol:
Yeah the name pandian recorded first in ramayana, that the pandiyan king showed middle finger to your lord ram and made a peace pact with the lankan king. yeah in mahabharath pandiyas fought for the pandavs. Kings fight war any side they decide once in favor of ravan, once in favor of pandavas. Unfortunately your ram dynasty was fucked up, but pandiyas survived till the british arrival. We use the names Pandiya, chola, chera behind our names, because they are the people who ruled our lands with tamil culture, so only we will claim pride, you go and gloat about your masters pride. Where you go that name madurai was named after mathura, the first pandiyas capital was recorded as "then madurai" and they are saivaites.

Cheras are mallus? Don't you feel shame to take pride on others history? Cheras, cholas, pandiyas everyone ruled kerala but everyone was a tamil dynasty. No wonder you take pride on your hindian masters, so as the same with the tamil cheras.

Yeah conversation should be with the equals, not with pimps and slaves. You people know us with the name pandi or pigs.. But we know you here, even kids know well, mallus are the trade mark "pimps" "back stabbers" and will do anything to go up. Even any tamil guy wont deny that here, this is what real you for us.
 
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Yeah the name pandian recorded first in ramayana, that the pandiyan king showed middle finger to your lord ram and made a peace pact with the lankan king. yeah in mahabharath pandiyas fought for the pandavs. Kings fight war any side they decide once in favor of ravan, once in favor of pandavas. Unfortunately your ram dynasty was fucked up, but pandiyas survived till the british arrival. We use the names Pandiya, chola, chera behind our names, because they are the people who ruled our lands with tamil culture, so only we will claim pride, you go and gloat about your masters pride. Where you go that name madurai was named after mathura, the first pandiyas capital was recorded as "then madurai" and they are saivaites.

Cheras are mallus? Don't you feel shame to take pride on others history? Cheras, cholas, pandiyas everyone ruled kerala but everyone was a tamil dynasty. No wonder you take pride on your hindian masters, so as the same with the tamil cheras.

Yeah conversation should be with the equals, not with pimps and slaves. You people know us with the name pandi or pigs.. But we know you here, even kids know well, mallus are the trade mark "pimps" "back stabbers" and will do anything to go up. Even any tamil guy wont deny that here, this is what real you for us.

LOL... the Pandiya kingdom ended in 1323 you Moron :lol: ..... after which you were ruled in Muslims, Marathas, British and whoever decide to walk all over you.

The Delhi sultanate of Tugluq ended your pandiyan kingdom. Your capital Mathur was lost to Jalaluddin Ahsan Khan in 1335. History has recorded what he did to your people , your women and children.

It was the Vijayanagar kingdom who freed you till your next enslavement, so don't forget to thank the Kannadigas and Telegu whenever you meet them.

What is most hilarious is to find you claim Chera was tamil :lol: ........ do you know who has the 2000 year old crown of the Chera King ? Its called the Chera Mudi and this is what it looks like.

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This has been with the Kings of Kerala for the last 2000 years unlike your pandiayan crown which was taken away from the invaders. This Ancient Chera Crown is still with the king of Kerala, Trivandrum to be more speficic. :lol:

Where do you think the capital of the Chera kingdom was ? In Kerala. It was Kodungallur. Later on the capital of the Chera was Quilon in kerala and then later on it became Trivandrum.

Do you know what Ashoka called the Chera kindom in 300 BC ? Kedalaputho (Kerala Putra) :lol:

One of the First Chera king had his capital in Kuzhumur in Kuttanad (central Kerala). :cheesy:

Just because they all captured Tamil Naude and your guys wrote about them does not make then Tamil you Shamless idiot :lol: .... but thanks for the laugh.

Do you even know that the name KERALA comes from CHERA ?


Poda Pandi, take your vandi , go wash your kundi.
 
LOL... the Pandiya kingdom ended in 1323 you Moron :lol: ..... after which you were ruled in Muslims, Marathas, British and whoever decide to walk all over you.

The Delhi sultanate of Tugluq ended your pandiyan kingdom. Your capital Mathur was lost to Jalaluddin Ahsan Khan in 1335. History has recorded what he did to your people , your women and children.

It was the Vijayanagar kingdom who freed you till your next enslavement, so don't forget to thank the Kannadigas and Telegu whenever you meet them.

What is most hilarious is to find you claim Chera was tamil :lol: ........ do you know who has the 2000 year old crown of the Chera King ? Its called the Chera Mudi and this is what it looks like.

59b800be21d98ea8b36c78de7ea66bb4.jpg


This has been with the Kings of Kerala for the last 2000 years unlike your pandiayan crown which was taken away from the invaders. This Ancient Chera Crown is still with the king of Kerala, Trivandrum to be more speficic. :lol:

Where do you think the capital of the Chera kingdom was ? In Kerala. It was Kodungallur. Later on the capital of the Chera was Quilon in kerala and then later on it became Trivandrum.

Do you know what Ashoka called the Chera kindom in 300 BC ? Kedalaputho (Kerala Putra) :lol:

One of the First Chera king had his capital in Kuzhumur in Kuttanad (central Kerala). :cheesy:

Just because they all captured Tamil Naude and your guys wrote about them does not make then Tamil you Shamless idiot :lol: .... but thanks for the laugh.

Do you even know that the name KERALA comes from CHERA ?


Poda Pandi, take your vandi , go wash your kundi.
Yeah the mughals are indians because all their monuments are in india, the same way cheras are mallus. Bug off you shameless idiot, no one gives a damn to historical slaves, probably you mallus are the only ones who saw nothing other than slavery through out your entire existence. Oh pathetic, even you got your name kerala from the tamil kings chera, no wonder you guys are good for nothing other than pimping.

Pandiyas survived till 1650s you moron, better read some history. Thats good, you better whine about your masters history telugu, kannadigas, sikh, marathas. History is only for the successful not for the pimps and slaves.
 
Yeah the mughals are indians because all their monuments are in india, the same way cheras are mallus. Bug off you shameless idiot, no one gives a damn to historical slaves, probably you mallus are the only ones who saw nothing other than slavery through out your entire existence. Oh pathetic, even you got your name kerala from the tamil kings chera, no wonder you guys are good for nothing other than pimping.

Pandiyas survived till 1650s you moron, better read some history. Thats good, you better whine about your masters history telugu, kannadigas, sikh, marathas. History is only for the successful not for the pimps and slaves.

LOL... how does mughal enter into the debate.

The Chera's used Grantha script which has alphabets used in sanskrit but is absent in tamil you fool. The Malayalam scrip is an direct evolution of the Grantha script and that is why it has more alphabets than tamil.

This is the inscription in Grantha found in KERALA (near Mallapuram )

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It not only gives the name of the Chera king but also the date.

The writing is Composed in Sardula Vikridita metre in Sanskrit, and it says,

King Rama Rajasekhara's glory be spread across the oceans and connects the ancestry of the King to Sri. Rama of Ayodhya :devil: . and the date gives the exact date of King Rama Rajasekhara Perumal and that is May 24, AD 871 and is in the form of a “kali dina” Calendar.

Better still, The inscription, unearthed during the renovation of the Kurumathur Vishnu temple. :azn:

As if all this is not enough, the "Kali Dina" calender itself is an Ancient Indian calendar used AL over India including North India. This is the Vedic calendar which has no weeks or months, just counts the number of days i.e. Ahargana from the birth of civilization. This era is called the Kali Yuga and the day count is the Kali dina.

This is an ancient Dutch map that provides description of the various kingdom, Tell us what you see my village idiot.

SOUTHINDIA.jpg



Its pathetic how you continue to cling to your illusions ALL of which has been TORN apart by me. It looks like Your ENTIRE belief system is Hollow. That is what happens when pappus like you blindly follow white masters and spin lies to justify your fantasy.

If you had known History, you would have known Kerala is one of the last kingdoms in India which was not touched by the mughals or the marathas or the British. Till the end the British had an political arrangement with the kings of Kerala.

The king remained the Ruler of Kerala unlike Tamil Nadu. When the king saw that the british will loot his wealth he handed it ALL over to the temple of AnanthaPadmanabha thus ensuring that the British could NEVER touch it. THAT is why Kerala is called the "Gods own Country".

THIS is the wealth that was recovered from the Temple and is worth BILLIONS of $.

Where is all your wealth ? With the British ?

The truth is that the ONLY people who were never slaves are the Mallus. Chew on that while you discover your dismal past and try to steal kerala history.
 
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LOL... how does mughal enter into the debate.

The Chera's used Grantha script which has alphabets used in sanskrit but is absent in tamil you fool. The Malayalam scrip is an direct evolution of the Grantha script and that is why it has more alphabets than tamil.

This is the inscription in Grantha found in KERALA (near Mallapuram )

10_TH_PALLAVA_GRAND_421040f.jpg


It not only gives the name of the Chera king but also the date.

The writing is Composed in Sardula Vikridita metre in Sanskrit, and it says,

King Rama Rajasekhara's glory be spread across the oceans and connects the ancestry of the King to Sri. Rama of Ayodhya :devil: . and the date gives the exact date of King Rama Rajasekhara Perumal and that is May 24, AD 871 and is in the form of a “kali dina” Calendar.

Better still, The inscription, unearthed during the renovation of the Kurumathur Vishnu temple. :azn:

As if all this is not enough, the "Kali Dina" calender itself is an Ancient Indian calendar used AL over India including North India. This is the Vedic calendar which has no weeks or months, just counts the number of days i.e. Ahargana from the birth of civilization. This era is called the Kali Yuga and the day count is the Kali dina.

This is an ancient Dutch map that provides description of the various kingdom, Tell us what you see my village idiot.

SOUTHINDIA.jpg



Its pathetic how you continue to cling to your illusions ALL of which has been TORN apart by me. It looks like Your ENTIRE belief system is Hollow. That is what happens when pappus like you blindly follow white masters and spin lies to justify your fantasy.

If you had known History, you would have known Kerala is one of the last kingdoms in India which was not touched by the mughals or the marathas or the British. Till the end the British had an political arrangement with the kings of Kerala.

The king remained the Ruler of Kerala unlike Tamil Nadu. When the king saw that the british will loot his wealth he handed it ALL over to the temple of AnanthaPadmanabha thus ensuring that the British could NEVER touch it. THAT is why Kerala is called the "Gods own Country".

THIS is the wealth that was recovered from the Temple and is worth BILLIONS of $.

Where is all your wealth ? With the British ?

The truth is that the ONLY people who were never slaves are the Mallus. Chew on that while you discover your dismal past and try to steal kerala history.
Historians will laugh on their buttock$ when you claim cheras are mallus. The earlier cheras history dates back to third century BC, and you are bitching here with an inscription from 821AD and claiming cheras are mallus and they used grantha script. Earlier cheras had no religion and they followed ancestral worship and worshipped goddess kottravai.

And to doom your claim even your own mallu historians claim, the inscriptions from 800-1800AD shows these areas belongs to ancient tamizhakam. And the inscriptions are not grantha but TAMIL GRANTHA, am not saying this your own mallu archaeologists claims that :lol:

Inscriptions | Archaeology of kerala

Even you fools don't know what's inside that padmanatha temple till opening the door, and you are claiming it was saved from mughals. They would cracked their whips on your A$$ if the treasure was known outside.

I saw in your mathrubhoomi they claim kerala as the land of prostitutes and you are claiming here as land of
God. Yes Mallus are never slaves, how pimps and backstabbers/traitors can be considered as slaves, you are right.

I am tired with your moronic debates, continue with your wet dreams, this is my last post on this thread.
 
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Historians will laugh on their buttock$ when you claim cheras are mallus. The earlier cheras history dates back to third century BC, and you are bitching here with an inscription from 821AD and claiming cheras are mallus and they used grantha script. Earlier cheras had no religion and they followed ancestral worship and worshipped goddess kottravai.

And to doom your claim even your own mallu historians claim, the inscriptions from 800-1800AD shows these areas belongs to ancient tamizhakam. And the inscriptions are tamil grantha, am not saying this your own mallu archaeologists claims that :lol:

Inscriptions | Archaeology of kerala

Even you fools don't know what's inside that padmanatha temple till opening the door, and you are claiming it was saved from mughals. They would cracked their whips on your A$$ if the treasure was known outside.

I saw in your mathrubhoomi they claim kerala as the land of prostitutes and you are claiming here as land of
God. Yes Mallus are never slaves, how pimps and backstabbers/traitors can be considered as slaves, you are right.

I am tired with your moronic debates, continue with your wet dreams, this is my last post on this thread.

LOL... if Romila Thappar is the measure of historians in India then spare me their opinions :lol:

"CLAIMS" of Any Leftist Historians has NO VALUE. Only Evidence has value.

These are the same historians that claimed there was no temple under Babri masjid :P ........ Indian Judiciary had nasty things to say about them. You need to read it. So don't waste time quoting discredited Indian historians. Quote Evidence.

The best part is that your own link show that ALL the evidence found of the Cheras is in KERALA.

Where is your proof that Chera's had no religion ? ... ... especially when all archaeological evidence of them has been recovered from Temple premises. :cheesy:

In the sangam litrature the word "Tamil" is mentioned only 17 times out of 32856 lines of verses. Out of this 4 times it means Territory and the people (race) and not the language. The other 11 times "tamil" refers to a person and his territory.

'TanTamil' is the Region in the Purananuru (the sangam literature that talks about kings). Which is why taling about the Pandiyan king it says "TanTamil varippu akam konti aka" i.e. "inside the boundaries of Tamil land is his wealth".

The earliest reference to the Chera (outside the Ramayana, Mahabharat and Ashoka) comes from Sangam literature Patirṟuppattu.

Now in the patirrupattu which talks about the Chera, it says in line 63.9 "Knoti mikaipata TanTamil cerittu" i.e. "There is great wealth where the Chera is oppressing the Tamils" :azn:

If Chera's were Tamil, why does the sangam litrature talk about them oppressing the Tamils ?

As to your other claim of Chera's having no religion, The Third chapter of Patirruppattu talks about the third Chera king Palyanai Sel-Kelu Cheran Chenkutuvan conducting 10 Vedic Yagnas by Brahmins to ensure he and his wife goes to Heaven :cheesy:

Sound very much like Vedic Hindus to me.

Finally about the gold in Padmanabha Temple, it was pretty much known to ALL Mallus. The handing over of all the gold to the Temple is part of Recorded History. Just because the rest of India and the world was ignorant of it does not mean the Mallus were ignorant of it.


Looks like I have again demolished ALL your points. Its a good thing you quit. Just don't quite learning that will free you from your foolish chauvinism.
 
LOL... if Romila Thappar is the measure of historians in India then spare me their opinions :lol:

"CLAIMS" of Any Leftist Historians has NO VALUE. Only Evidence has value.

These are the same historians that claimed there was no temple under Babri masjid :P ........ Indian Judiciary had nasty things to say about them. You need to read it. So don't waste time quoting discredited Indian historians. Quote Evidence.

The best part is that your own link show that ALL the evidence found of the Cheras is in KERALA.

Where is your proof that Chera's had no religion ? ... ... especially when all archaeological evidence of them has been recovered from Temple premises. :cheesy:

In the sangam litrature the word "Tamil" is mentioned only 17 times out of 32856 lines of verses. Out of this 4 times it means Territory and the people (race) and not the language. The other 11 times "tamil" refers to a person and his territory.

'TanTamil' is the Region in the Purananuru (the sangam literature that talks about kings). Which is why taling about the Pandiyan king it says "TanTamil varippu akam konti aka" i.e. "inside the boundaries of Tamil land is his wealth".

The earliest reference to the Chera (outside the Ramayana, Mahabharat and Ashoka) comes from Sangam literature Patirṟuppattu.

Now in the patirrupattu which talks about the Chera, it says in line 63.9 "Knoti mikaipata TanTamil cerittu" i.e. "There is great wealth where the Chera is oppressing the Tamils" :azn:

If Chera's were Tamil, why does the sangam litrature talk about them oppressing the Tamils ?

As to your other claim of Chera's having no religion, The Third chapter of Patirruppattu talks about the third Chera king Palyanai Sel-Kelu Cheran Chenkutuvan conducting 10 Vedic Yagnas by Brahmins to ensure he and his wife goes to Heaven :cheesy:

Sound very much like Vedic Hindus to me.

Finally about the gold in Padmanabha Temple, it was pretty much known to ALL Mallus. The handing over of all the gold to the Temple is part of Recorded History. Just because the rest of India and the world was ignorant of it does not mean the Mallus were ignorant of it.


Looks like I have again demolished ALL your points. Its a good thing you quit. Just don't quite learning that will free you from your foolish chauvinism.
Yes, You demolished everything with your mentally challenged arguments. If you got iota of a cell in your brain, you wouldn't have said all the inscriptions published in kerala archeological website says it was found in kerala. Do you expect them to publish archeological findings from russia? Chera's inscriptions from 2nd century CE was found at uraiyur, near trichy you fool. The inscriptions that you found on temples are after 800AD, the inscriptions found near trichy is 600years older than that. And you claim inscriptions found in kerala temple shows early cheras are hindus, that doesn't prove early cheras are hindus, later their deities were absorbed in to hinduism is the fact. Your mentally challenged arguments are entertaining, keep it coming on every thread. I am done with you.
 

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