Anti China California Clowns! Serpentza-Laowhy86

[Hamartia Antidote]

These two lost their jobs in China and are now living off YouTube money. The best thing one can do is stop giving them attention rather than giving them more views.

Does that mean when you see the constant appalling barrage of anti-China post by determined American members elsewhere, you'll even things out by coming to the defense of China? Lol. Or you are just an American nationalists who can't take the criticism from Chinese while accusing Chinese of coming to their nation's defense? Hypocrisy goes both ways.

Considering there's probably 30 Chinese members here for every US one...which sounds more logical:

1) The US members deciding to troll the large Chinese group
or
2) the Chinese members deciding to troll the few Americans.

Don't let us down with that high IQ of yours with the answer...

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

The reason they changed from love china to anti-china because they figured out bashing china fits the western narrative and gets more views. The problem with them is not the criticism of China but instead they are spreading misinformation and even lies.

You mean Hong Kong is currently not being violently repressed?

Look mate if the opinions of a YouTuber means that much to you then you need to take long hard look at yourself & get some help.

 

[Rusty]

The reason they changed from love china to anti-china because they figured out bashing china fits the western narrative and gets more views. The problem with them is not the criticism of China but instead they are spreading misinformation and even lies.

That is not true.
When they were in China making pro/neutral videos, they were already getting views. I had no interest in China 3 years ago but I would always watch their videos.

they literally said they they were forced to change their content because they were chased out of China by the police and wumao.
They tell stories of police raiding their homes in the middle of the night and what not.
In fact, C-Milk was wanted by the police and he managed to escape.

No normal society sends police to harass travel vlogers.

These people could have been the tip of a spear that reshaped China's image positively.
But China dose not understand authenticity, it's either grovel at the feet of CCP, like the guy in the video or you are anti China.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

That is not true.
When they were in China making pro/neutral videos, they were already getting views. I had no interest in China 3 years ago but I would always watch their videos.

they literally said they they were forced to change their content because they were chased out of China by the police and wumao.
They tell stories of police raiding their homes in the middle of the night and what not.
In fact, C-Milk was wanted by the police and he managed to escape.

No normal society sends police to harass travel vlogers.

These people could have been the tip of a spear that reshaped China's image positively.
But China dose not understand authenticity, it's either grovel at the feet of CCP, like the guy in the video or you are anti China.

Exactly China doesn't understand criticism hence why China is now acting like an autistic kid screeching at the world because they never been exposed to it & sees valid criticism as an attack. Instead of something constructive.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

The problem with them is not the criticism of China but instead they are spreading misinformation and even lies.

Please list some specifics so we can all be convinced and thus agree with you.
However if you can only make "non-specific generalizations" you'll have to excuse us for not being in agreement.

 

[Rusty]

Exactly China doesn't understand criticism hence why China is now acting like an autistic kid screeching at the world because they never been exposed to it & sees valid criticism as an attack. Instead of something constructive.

woops, I just woke up and read your comment wrong.
We are in agreement

 

[tower9]

Exactly China doesn't understand criticism hence why China is now acting like an autistic kid screeching at the world because they never been exposed to it & sees valid criticism as an attack. Instead of something constructive.

While I do think the Western media does have a clear agenda of demonizing China, even to the point of selling fake news and fake narratives and that Serpentza and Laowhy are quite possibly on the NED payroll, I also agree that the way PRC authorities and their citizens respond to criticism and communicate with the outside world is indeed autistic and actually ends up helping their detractors.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

While I do think the Western media does have a clear agenda of demonizing China, even to the point of selling fake news and fake narratives and that Serpentza and Laowhy are quite possibly on the NED payroll, I also agree that the way PRC authorities and their citizens respond to criticism and communicate with the outside world is indeed autistic and actually ends up helping their detractors.

That could make sense however they are closing their China channel and going to concentrate on North and South America. So much for that theory.

 

[gambit]

Does that mean when you see the constant appalling barrage of anti-China post by determined American members elsewhere, you'll even things out by coming to the defense of China? Lol. Or you are just an American nationalists who can't take the criticism from Chinese while accusing Chinese of coming to their nation's defense? Hypocrisy goes both ways.

Buddy...When I was invited -- by a Pakistani member -- to PDF back in '09, the number of Americans on the forum can be counted on one hand minus the thumb. Back then, China as an issue was a far second, if even that, compared to terrorism and Iraq. When the J-20 debuted on the world, the number of PDF Chinese practically exploded, commensurate were the outlandish physics defying claims about the jet. Politely and with non-disputable sources like IEEE, I debunked those claims. Immediately, I was branded as a white racists 'China hater'. When it became known that I was a Viet, the insults got intensely personal and the perps got away with it by a Chinese friendly admin staff. You may try to portray yourselves as victims on this board but many long timers know better.

 

[tower9]

That could make sense however they are closing their China channel and going to concentrate on North and South America. So much for that theory.

I haven't really been following their program but if that is the case, it might be because they have been out of China so long that they feel concerned that their credibility and following will gradually decline because they will appear increasingly disconnected. They tried to switch over to Vietnam before and that didn't work. I think China's their only meal ticket and I don't think that's going to change. They can try switching to other topics but when the views stop coming, they'll quickly switch back. Again, I don't follow them so I don't know if they really are planning to change their focus.

 

[Jun]

@Rusty
Here are what other western bloggers in China say about them:

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I haven't really been following their program but if that is the case, it might be because they have been out of China so long that they feel concerned that their credibility and following will gradually decline because they will appear increasingly disconnected. They tried to switch over to Vietnam before and that didn't work. I think China's their only meal ticket and I don't think that's going to change. They can try switching to other topics but when the views stop coming, they'll quickly switch back. Again, I don't follow them so I don't know if they really are planning to change their focus.

They moved to LA because they have spent 4 years motorbiking around China and have basically run out of places to go. They now want to drive around North and South America. Good luck surviving in Central America on a motorcycle.

 

[Zsari]

Considering there's probably 30 Chinese members here for every US one...which sounds more logical:

1) The US members deciding to troll the large Chinese group
or
2) the Chinese members deciding to troll the few Americans.

Don't let us down with that high IQ of yours with the answer...

You mean this forum is the only one you ever goto? I'm not surprised that Pakistan Defence forum would have more Chinese than American for obvious reason. But if you look at various forum, the overall scale of things, its quite the opposite.

 

[Nilgiri]

Most of his videos before this were just fun videos you can see anywhere on YouTube. Imagine being so horrible of a country that a even a Logan Paul ripoff can't even stand you.

Edit: this is the kind of videos he made before he became more critical of China.

If something doesnt fully conform to these hive-mind CCP trolls here (and elsewhere)...they hound and bark around it....because it made other things go away previously, so they think it works everywhere.

A very foolish mindset, but they are too dumb to see it....and they double down on it as people are repulsed by it more and more.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

@Rusty
Here are what other western bloggers in China say about them:

I'm sure he wants hits. But remember they aren't specifically saying he is lying. They do say he exaggerates but even then they just make a bunch of "non-specific generalizations".