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Anti-Army/ISI/MI slogans raised in Megacity Lahore | Change of Command calls in a month| In 75 yrs Never seen such Questions on Army/ISI internal role

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There is a saying in Punjabi which says "Jinna ne khaiyan gajran ohnan tey tid ich peerh".
 
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there is a Hybrid war against Pakistan and Pak military, You weaken the military, you weaken the nuclear threshold, you weaken the missile command and you force the system to collapse.

The weakened nuclear security is then a bait, an excuse to dis arm Pakistan piece by piece.

Exactly. We all know the plan, they cannot attack Pakistan because of the advance nuclear and missile technology, so their plan has always been to somehow create an internal civil war so they can then declare Pakistan as a danger to the world, then place Pakistan nuclear and missiles in to international body hand, and then slowly weaken it over the decades, then completely remove them.

While this is a known fact but what is our army doing to counter this? Their job should have been to unite Pakistanis, increase their love and respect for the military, make them feel safe and protected in Pakistan but unfortunately all Pakistanis are feeling differently. Politicians, journalists, social media workers are being kidnapped by people in black vigos, fake cases are registered, false propaganda, lies, and the list continues.

Recent history - Army removed Nawaz Sharif in a coup, kicked him out of the country for being a traitor, then when Musharaff was removed, the same Zardari and Nawaz came back to power for the next decade, they were given NRO which was illegal, then zardari who was declared as a mafia before, he became the President of Pakistan. Then Imran Khan and Dr Tahir ul Qadri started their campaign to remove Ppp and PmlN, Nawaz Sharif was declared as an Indian agent, lier, corrupt and the courts removed him. IK was declared and promoted as a saviour, someone who will unite Pakistanis, and he came to power and did just that, from AJK to Sindh to KPK, Balochistan people were using slogans Pakistan zindabad, Pakistan army zindabad.

IK is now removed because he is apparently not good for Pakistan and is a lier. But Nawaz Sharif, Shabaz Sharif, Zardari, Altaf are heros of Pakistan, the same people who were declared as corrupt and some declared as terrorists and it is our army who is bringing them back to power.

Can you see the problem? Can you see who is the problem? Who creates the problem? The division? Who riggs elections? Who kidnaps people? Tortures people? Uses power wrongfully?

By the way if this was PTI in power, they would praise the actions of the black vigos and say they are upgrading softwares but when they themselves are at the receiving end then they cry like babies. Typical double standards of Pakistanis, always biases and blindfollowing.

We should respect and love our army and we all do just that but Pakistan has changed, we want end to corruption, we want independent institutes, we want free and fair elections, we want the corrupt in jails and not in the parliament, we want our army to be the peoples army.
 
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Well as usual, Instead of introspecting people here are blaming US,India etc

basically what we are doing now is this
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Indian designs are succeeding. Media has been used negatively against Pakistan Army.
They did to themselves. They need to look in the mirror. They did everything to themselves.

Or you can go back in 1857 and start from there. Maybe go back ho back even further. In any case, the point remains, there is a Hybrid war against Pakistan and Pak military.

You weaken the military, you weaken the nuclear threshold, you weaken the missile command and you force the system to collapse.

The weakened nuclear security is then a bait, an excuse to dis arm Pakistan piece by piece.
That hybrid war is done by its own leadership. No offense but the leadership itself has done the most damage.
 
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Which civilized country lines up a Container city to stop People of it's own country from demanding elections?

Which Civilized country considers it is ok to Kidnap citizens of own country mid night and beat up people in presence of their own children and parents?


Civilized nations don't do that and Pakistan has to become a Civilized Nation


The culture of Torture and Kidnapping is finished

We want a Pakistan with High Morals and what was dream of Founders of Pakistan , a safe and Just society
 
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Indian designs are succeeding. Media has been used negatively against Pakistan Army.
Not for a lack of unwitting assistance by the Army due to a lack of wits in general.

India gave Pakistan a massive defeat in 71 and will be doing another one soon.

Not by a military defeat but by turning its eastern border from a threat to a friend.

It will be doing the same soon, not by military defeat but by economic and diplomatic means to force settlement of Kashmir by an acquiescing top civil military leadership and turn its western enemy into a “friend”.

“The best way to get rid of your enemies is to make them your friend” Abraham Lincoln.

In this case it will be a friendship by forced choice.
 
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Anti-Army/ISI/MI slogans in Mega city Lahore | Change of Command calls in a month | Never seen before remarks on Army/ISI/MI actual roles, Direct blaming and Openly talk on the Credibility of Establishment of Army & civilian like minded
Credit of this goes to Mir Bajwa and other top brass.

Indian designs are succeeding. Media has been used negatively against Pakistan Army.
This is the chooran you have been selling to the "bloody civilians" since decades. But you know that product of yours has no market left , so other than the cement,fertilizer and cereals you sale find something new people love to buy.
 
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Credit of this goes to Mir Bajwa and other top brass.


This is the chooran you have been selling to the "bloody civilians" since decades. But you know that product of yours has no market left , so other than the cement,fertilizer and cereals you sale find something new people love to buy.
This churan is not wrong, infact 100% correct
but who helped them along the way?...

didn't happen without top brass themselves f-ing up
 
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As much as you all hate the military leadership (me included), I still am of the opinion that there are alot of good men in the second tier who can steer the institution into clear waters.

Let’s hope Pakistan is not in a position that it has to concede it’s strategic position to it’s neighbor to the East.
 
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