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Another warning to india by china War likely if Sikkim standoff mishandled: Chinese Media

Its a 1974 redux... this is how Chinese fight... a true account:


"The Chinese had installed loudspeakers at Nathu La, and warned the Indians that they would suffer as they did in 1962, if they did not withdraw. However, Major General Sagat had carried out a detailed appreciation of the situation, and reached the conclusion that the Chinese were bluffing. They made threatening postures, such as advancing in large numbers, but on reaching the border, always stopped, turned about and withdrew. They also did not use any artillery, for covering fire, which they would have certainly done if they were serious about capturing any Indian positions. "

So India will wait and see if Chinese generals have balls to initiate Artillery firing.... till that time let them play keyboard WAR WAR
 
I have never said that there would a all out nuclear war between China and India, so why should I "mark your word"?

LOL, then where do you think the aerial bombing like your suggested in your earlier comments will lead to ?? :p:
 
I am unable to understand why China is giving warnings only ? It's been third warning in last 5 days. They have a chance to invade weak enemy.

It is very easy for Chinese to understand, my friend. We are not an aggressive country even in advantage, and we would rather sort out difference through dialogue than through bullets.
 
I am unable to understand why China is giving warnings only ? It's been third warning in last 5 days. They have a chance to invade weak enemy.
They are not fool like pakistan to consider India as weak, simple.

Talking of weak - china invaded pakistan, in the garb of "brotherhood" (you guys have serious fetish with this word), without firing a single bullet. In fact, pakistan is raising army to "defend" the invader, while the invader is busy rolling out money minting projects throughout their territory.

But you are unable to understand.
 
LOL, then where do you think the aerial bombing like your suggested in your earlier comments will lead to ?? :p:


You are not thinking in a rational manner, and you even sounded like a newie. "Bombing" I referred to is not literally "aerial bombing".
 
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China's T-Junction stand-off with Bhutan: Flexing muscle to annex land is nothing new for Beijing
Firstpost • Jun 29, 2017 20:57 IST

By Prakash Katoch






In dealing with the stand-off with New Delhi over the T-Junction (meeting point of India, Tibet and Bhutan), the main plank used by Beijing is its "sovereignty" over the land. But whose sovereignty is Beijing talking about? If it's Bhutan's sovereignty, China had an agreement to not disturb the status quo while boundary talks are continuing between the two countries. But China actually did the opposite — it violated the agreement by design and at a time when it coincided with Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit to Washington, because of perceived threats to China's own expansionism.

Major General Vetsop Namgyel, Bhutan's ambassador to India, told the media, "The PLA (People's Liberation Army) started construction of a motorable road in the Doklam area towards a Bhutanese army camp at Zomphlri. We are in boundary resolution talks with China and have written agreements that pending final boundary settlement, peace and tranquility will be maintained along the boundary, and that both sides will refrain from unilaterally altering the status. Bhutan has conveyed to China that road construction is not keeping with the agreements between two countries. We have asked China to stop the construction and refrain from changing the status quo. Doklam is near the tri-junction, and is part of boundary talks between Bhutan and China."

So when China talks of sovereignty, it should be noted that Bhutan had to issue a demarche on the issue, asking Beijing to restore status quo in Doklam. The demarche, a formal statement, was served through the Chinese embassy in Delhi on 20 June, since Bhutan and China do not have diplomatic relations.


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China has had designs on the Doklam plateau even though it is the private property of the King of Bhutan. For past several years, PLA troops have forcibly intruded into this area, staying put for an hour or so, and telling Royal Bhutan Army (RBA) troops to vacate the plateau, claiming it as Chinese territory. The mere fact that a vastly bigger country like China is indulging in such antics against a peaceful neighbour like Bhutan shows the extent to which Beijing will stoop to, to occupy territory illegally, slicing it off like a salami, just like it's done with India.

China's annexation of Tibet, Manchuria, Xinjiang and parts of Mongolia are all well-documented. It also wants to capture the Doklam plateau because it overlooks Chinese posts in Chumbi valley of China-Occupied Tibet (CoT). But for India, the strategic importance of Doklam lies in the fact that it not only overlooks the sensitive Siliguri corridor, but also because its occupation by China will turn the flanks of India defences in Sikkim, making them vulnerable.

China is a geopolitical bully that annexed 38,000 kms of Aksai Chin just to give depth to its western highway, but wants India to not react to its blatant move of building a road outflanking Indian defences in Sikkim. The unarmed reaction by Indian troops in pushing the PLA soldiers was witnessed by the world. When Indian troops strongly objected to the move, PLA soldiers destroyed two Indian bunkers in retaliation near the Lalten post, and also arbitrarily announced closure of the pilgrimage route to Kailash-Mansarovar via Nathu La.


A batch of pilgrims were earlier held up at Nathu La, with China fabricating a lie that the route beyond was disrupted by landslide. The landslide in Sichuan province of China occurred later on 25-26 June.

The route via Nathu La for the Kailash-Mansarovar pilgrimage goes through CoT, and was agreed to by Chinese President Xi Jinping during Narendra Modi's visit to China in 2014, and a formal agreement between the two countries was signed in September 2014. Chin's act of stopping the pilgrims at Nathu La amounts to breach of agreement. Perhaps it also can be viewed as a silent form of terrorism, akin to Pakistani terrorists attempting to block the Amarnath Yatra.

China had earlier claimed Tawang on grounds that Tibetans visit the ancient Tawang monastery, but in 2005, it expanding this claim to 90,000 sq km, to seek out the entire state of Arunachal Pradesh. But what about the enclaves of Minsar (Men ser), near Lake Mansarovar (Ma pham), used by Indian pilgrims of all communities, and the Bhutanese enclave of Tconsists of Darchen (Dar chen), Labrang, etc. near Mount Kailash (Gangs rin po che, Ti se) again used by Bhutan and Indian nationals for periodic pilgrimages, especially when Mount Kailash is the abode of Lord Shiva as per ancient mythology?

China timed the road construction activity to the Doklam plateau deliberately to coincide with Modi's visit to the US knowing fully well that Indian troops will be forced to react, giving an excuse to China to snub India by closing the pilgrimage route to Kailash-Mansarovar via Nathu La.

China is also hopping mad that without India joining the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), its economic viability is under a cloud. But then it did go ahead with the CPEC project completely bypassing India's strategic, security and territorial sensitivities, especially considering CPEC runs through Azad Kashmir, which is Indian territory.

Ironically, the current standoff is next to Nathu La, which the PLA was forced to abandon for three days in 1967. The State-controlled Chinese media is now insisting that India "needs to be taught the rules". This is perhaps because Jinping is steeped in the colours of Deng Xiaoping. China should remember that China under Xiaoping invaded Vietnam in 1979 "to teach Vietnam a lesson", but instead learnt a lesson themselves. Jinping was then secretary in the Chinese ministry of defence. Again during the 1986 Sumdorong Chu incident, Xiaoping threatened to "teach India a lesson", but eventually had to retreat.

China has backed Pakistani terrorism, even protecting Masood Azhar at the United Nations, but faced a blow when the US designating Syed Salahudeen as a "global terrorist" and exposing the Hizbul Mujahideen, If China is worked up that Pakistan is getting cornered and that terror may affect the CPEC, as some voices in China are being raised, it is China's own doing. As for the standoff, it is likely to continue for some time. India would obviously remain resolute, but what India must do is continuously target the $60 billion bilateral trade imbalance in China's favour. Chinese media will as usual say that it does not matter much, but that is again another lie, better known to the Chinese pundits.




 
An India China standoff may kick start manufacturing revolution in India. Indians will boycott China goods and (100 billion dollars)Trade. Finally India will relax the labour laws and kick start manufacturing sector.

friendly China means cheap imports from China. It will unite Indians and make them serious.
 
You are right, South Tibet is a pain in the heart of every Chinese. China is not an expansionist country and it lost many opportunity to enlarge its territory. Nehru had a "Good Bye" radio address to people in Assam in 1962, and it was a good opportunity for China to take all so called "7 sister states".

Chins is the expansionist country in the world, that is what you are doing in all around your boarder now and this is one of it, search google How India added Arunachal Pradesh and who provoked to do that,

There must be a another conflict between india and china in Near Arunachal Pradesh and Some what Managed to reduce the tension, and after few Years india declared Arunachal Pradesh as one of the state in india,

some timed i very angry why india added Arunachal Pradesh with india when china not accepted McMohan line as a boarder from the Begining, but i read one article unexpectedly while roaming on the net that gave me the answer why india did that,

i don't have the link, if get the link then i will post it here,
 
An India China standoff may kick start manufacturing revolution in India. Indians will boycott China goods and (100 billion dollars)Trade. Finally India will relax the labour laws and kick start manufacturing sector.

friendly China means cheap imports from China. It will unite Indians and make them serious.


I wish it would be the case, to be honest. The chance are that you are using a Made In China product to post this message.
 
Just wait and see. China did not really issue warning to India before, at least not at Department of Foreign Affair and Department of Defense level. This time is different, and Chinese government did not seem to be willing to downplay this issue, quite a depart from its regular practice regarding border conflicts with India.

I think all this hostility stuff is now becoming uncomfortable. Is there no possibility of discussing anything like mature adults?

Did the Chinese Army actually cross the border in Bhutan? And if they did, how can that possibly be justified?

I agree that both sides should take a step back and return to the status quo, but that won't be possible unless Chinese Army stops incursions into Bhutan. Instead of seeing it as Indian belligerence, try looking at it from the POV of a tiny country with hardly an Army.

This situation is entirely avoidable. Neither country needs this on their plate right now.
 
the chinese are getting nervous, every chinese neighbor is arming themselves with superior american weapon.
 
I wish it would be the case, to be honest. The chance are that you are using a Made In China product to post this message.
Ok,still you won't start a war it will be a warning from the warning superpower among China,NK,Pakistan .what a group you guys have.
 
I think all this hostility stuff is now becoming uncomfortable. Is there no possibility of discussing anything like mature adults?

Did the Chinese Army actually cross the border in Bhutan? And if they did, how can that possibly be justified?

I agree that both sides should take a step back and return to the status quo, but that won't be possible unless Chinese Army stops incursions into Bhutan. Instead of seeing it as Indian belligerence, try looking at it from the POV of a tiny country with hardly an Army.

This situation is entirely avoidable. Neither country needs this on their plate right now.

It is not as simple as who crossed whose border, it is all up to who is from what country. India has crossed the border between China and Sikkim, the fact that India gov has not denied, but many India friends are accusing China is using a map of 1890 between British and Qing Dynasty. So what fact should we base on to point finger at each other?

Ok,still you won't start a war it will be a warning from the warning superpower among China,NK,Pakistan .what a group you guys have.


To be honest, I have no idea what you tried to say.
 
Chinese propaganda machinery busy making fool of their own people... issuing war fatwas every day..... they do the same against Japan... have you seen them following up ? .. and Japan does not even have a strong Army, navy and Air force.. not even 10% of what China has...
We send CSMA ship sailed right across into diaoyutai and guess what? Not a single bumpy action or sinking from Japan side. So who beat who?

I would love a war, too bad Chinese don't have the guts.
Chinese are benevolent. We issue enough warning to allow India to repent. If we don't give enough warning and we wiped out your soldier like 1962. It will have too much complain from the west.
 
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