another monster mullah killed a child

[Imran Khan]

Simple solution. Shut down the madrassas and make Islamic studies part of the normal school curriculum from an appropriate age and stress upon intellectual discussions in the same way that Muslims discussed during the Islamic Golden Age centuries ago.

it seems gov have no guts to shut them down but i think slowly gov should take over them and bring them mainstream . slowly change laws start from over night stay banned and torture ban and punish many many 100s of mullahs for these situation will be changed with time . strait ban may be backlash but slowly we can solve this cancer

 

[Imran Khan]

Pakistanis, you need Musharraf to guide your country through his Enlightened Moderation. He had guts to take on the regressive and perverted mullahs.

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@Areesh, I have indicated to you that such vile mullahs were removed from influence by progressives such as Nasser and Gaddafi but you called Nasser and Gaddafi as "nobodies". Is the mullah in this case a "somebody" for you ? Are you going to condemn or condone such mullahs who think the Quran should be "taught" by beating students and the students just memorizing without understanding ( without intellectual discussion ) and later turning out to be Taliban or Lal Masjid supporters ? What punishment do you suggest for mullahs who sexually abuse the boys in their charge ? And what do you suggest as punishment for other mullahs who support the first type of mullahs by saying that women bring problems upon society by doing "immoral" things ?

mushrraf is past he is on death bed . pakistan did nto end with mushrraf . we have so many good leaders imran khan is doing well too . all we need gov pass few bills like women protection and child protection bills for these poor students

 

[jamahir]

it seems gov have no guts to shut them down but i think slowly gov should take over them and bring them mainstream . slowly change laws start from over night stay banned and torture ban and punish many many 100s of mullahs for these situation will be changed with time . strait ban may be backlash but slowly we can solve this cancer

But if Pakistan goes the slow-change way how long is it going to take ?

Please read this article from where I quote :

Led by Abdul Aziz and his brother Abdur Rashid Ghazi (later killed), Lal Masjid clerics had set out to create their version of an Islamic state in the city. On April 12, 2007, in an FM broadcast from an illegal transmitter on the mosque’s premises, they issued a chilling threat to the government: “There will be suicide blasts in every nook and cranny of the country. We have weapons, grenades and we are expert in manufacturing bombs. We are not afraid of death.” This was four months before the final showdown on July 4, 2007.

The mosque’s clerics had attracted around them a core of banned militant organisations including Al Qaeda and Jaish-i-Mohammad. A state within a state, Lal Masjid was a magnet for fighters from Central Asian Republics. Inside the mosque’s premises, Ghazi and Aziz ran their own Islamic court. Here they received the Saudi Arabian ambassador and negotiated with the Chinese ambassador for the release of his country’s kidnapped nationals.

If we take the example of Russia, Kazakhstan and other Central Asian countries they have banned even the non-armed Tablighi Jamaat for a reason

If we take another example, the Aurat March in Islamabad was attacked with bricks and stones by the mullahs. I don't understand why. Look at one of the posters from the Aurat March. It has a wonderful message :

 

[jamahir]

mushrraf is past he is on death bed . pakistan did nto end with mushrraf .

Sure but you can take his advise.

 

[Imran Khan]

But if Pakistan goes the slow-change way how long is it going to take ?

Please read this article from where I quote :

If we take the example of Russian, Kazakhstan and other Central Asian countries they have banned even the non-armed Tablighi Jamaat for a reason

If we take another example, the Aurat March in Islamabad was attacked with bricks and stones by the mullahs. I don't understand why. Look at one of the posters from the Aurat March. It has a wonderful message :

change can be dome with 10 years plan and yes we should ban tableeghis jihadis radicals and political mullas all of them are cancer to society . but sudden changes create issues . slow and strong can be change . anyhow society is changing sir with time we are moving ahead its not like pakistani society is not moving ahead but the speed is slow only . today many things are normal which were not possible 20 years ago .

 

[Marker]

Pakistan should take very strong initiative to reform the educational system whether it belongs to some religious sect or otherwise.

All known religious educational organizations including Wafaq-ul-Madares, private schools organization should be brought on the same board and some common curriculum, policies, rules, regulations and SOPs should be finalized, implemented and regularly monitored by neutral parties.

Special attention should be given to eliminate corporal punishment given by teachers, child abuse and bullying among students.

We have to make the educational environment peaceful, so that our young ones may concentrate on learning.

 

[jamahir]

change can be dome with 10 years plan

Maybe Pakistan can take inspiration from USSR which had five-year plans to change various elements in the society.

 

[Imran Khan]

Maybe Pakistan can take inspiration from USSR which had five-year plans to change various elements in the society.

no our society dynamics culture and structure is not as USSR sir . every country have own problems and local solutions . i dont want to import anything from anywhere . here are local problems with local solutions

 

[Longhorn]

i think they need major reforms mullah went total mad on kids sir . beating must be punishable crime and mullah should have been labeled as child abuser . data must be collected and avilable online so no one hire them again . this beating for quraan is insult to islam . how can you teach kids quraan with torture to kill ???????????? did islam teach beating kids ? but 90% of madrasa mullahs beating kids daily like animals . its very serious issue now .

Same in most Pakistani government schools.
Beating children should be banned totally.

 

[jamahir]

no our society dynamics culture and structure is not as USSR sir . every country have own problems and local solutions . i dont want to import anything from anywhere . here are local problems with local solutions

If you are point to Pakistan being a Muslim-majority society then it can derive lessons from other such societies like Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Indonesia, Somalia etc who all went through a progressive phase.

 

[Imran Khan]

Same in most Pakistani government schools.
Beating children should be banned totally.

its banned punishable crime now teacher will loss job also

 

[El Sidd]

Another incident in Punjab

 

[Areesh]

Pakistanis, you need Musharraf to guide your country through his Enlightened Moderation. He had guts to take on the regressive and perverted mullahs.

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@Areesh, I have indicated to you that such vile mullahs were removed from influence by progressives such as Nasser and Gaddafi but you called Nasser and Gaddafi as "nobodies". Is the mullah in this case a "somebody" for you ? Are you going to condemn or condone such mullahs who think the Quran should be "taught" by beating students and the students just memorizing without understanding ( without intellectual discussion ) and later turning out to be Taliban or Lal Masjid supporters ? What punishment do you suggest for mullahs who sexually abuse the boys in their charge ? And what do you suggest as punishment for other mullahs who support the first type of mullahs by saying that women bring problems upon society by doing "immoral" things ?

Nobody cares about nasser and Gaddafi

They are dead. Stop obsessing over them

 

[Marker]

Another incident in Punjab

This must stop.

We cannot allow our children expose to such hostile situation.

Government must take decisive actions against this as they had done just after attack on APS.

Government must call for all-party conference and final decision must be taken involving every key government and non-government organization including military. Very strong and decisive actions must be taken and implemented on war footing.

It is treason if we ignore it. We cannot let common public and youth turning against our religion Islam just because of these ...... devils. It is a treason against Islam and Pakistan - a country which was created for the Muslim nation.

 

[Syed1.]

Mullahs should be put on a registry and their movements monitored. All mullahs are guilty until declared innocent.