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Another Indian shot dead in US

Yep, same experiences here. An average American is less likely to know about stuff that don't directly affect them or anything that their mainstream media doesn't cover on a regular basis - much less about India or about Indians. That is clearly not an affront to them since even an educated Indian is likely to know less about stuff that doesn't directly concern him - let alone the average, barely literate Indians.

I don't even blame Americans for that - their universe is so big, diverse and complex that it takes up all the airtime.
Exactly right. I think you have to experience it to understand.

Rush Limbaugh
Ah yes...that's the name ...I remember now. I got a lift in a small town and the driver was listening to this guy.

No offense meant to Americans because this guy seems really famous and well appreciated there...but boy...he plays mind games.....he can prove black is white and white is black ...and you believe him and get killed on a zebra crossing.

I have never seen anyone talk like this...I don't think we have an equivalent in India as far as I know. One program I listened to , he was complaining about prisoners being given clean underwear....apparently he thought that was too liberal ....by the time I finished listening to him....I was totally against anybody having clean underwear! :o:

At one point I was totally addicted to this guy Rush Limbag. Apparently he keeps canned goods in the trunk of his car in case the world ends suddenly!! I never knew such people existed. Travel certainly broadens the mind. :coffee:
 
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Me pretending to be Snow white that's a first :rofl:
I live in New York
I live in the city as well....Indians and Pakistanis get along quite well here..this includes the Chinese, Bangladeshi as well.
I think you need to change your friend circle....As a community (Including all of the above)..everyone are quite friendly...!

Why are Americans killing Indians? this is strange.
They have killed one Indian (singular)..The other businessman was an American..of Indian origin.

I got a warning for trolling!. Can anyone tell me when I trolled? So calling out pakistani members for their BS is trolling?
So I'm guessing indians get banned here easily? Any experience my indian friends??
Yes we do!...This is how it works..first you will be instigated, then when you react..the scum who instigated you will report you, then edit his initial post (The whole post will then disappear..with a warning)..and there my friend how this is done.

That's a popular stereotype, and as with all stereotypes has some validity, but it's hyperbolic and exaggerated.

Here: India in blue including the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, but excluding disputed territories, and Germany in Green.
Nope now you are making me look bad as well..as usual you got the official India Map wrong. I am sure next they will also ask you to point out Baluchistan...dont fall for it..(wink wink)
 
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I got a warning for trolling!. Can anyone tell me when I trolled? So calling out pakistani members for their BS is trolling?
So I'm guessing indians get banned here easily? Any experience my indian friends??

Warning message contains the reference of the post as well and actions are taken on the basis of content without any difference. Members with different flags, is evident here.

Yes we do!...This is how it works..first you will be instigated, then when you react..the scum who instigated you will report you, then edit his initial post (The whole post will then disappear..with a warning)..and there my friend how this is done.

Avoid misrepresenting things like that, please.

Continue with discussion while sticking to the topic and report any offensive post, if found, without quoting back.

Thanks
 
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I live in the city as well....Indians and Pakistanis get along quite well here..this includes the Chinese, Bangladeshi as well.
I think you need to change your friend circle....As a community (Including all of the above)..everyone are quite friendly...!


They have killed one Indian (singular)..The other businessman was an American..of Indian origin.


Yes we do!...This is how it works..first you will be instigated, then when you react..the scum who instigated you will report you, then edit his initial post (The whole post will then disappear..with a warning)..and there my friend how this is done.


Nope now you are making me look bad as well..as usual you got the official India Map wrong. I am sure next they will also ask you to point out Baluchistan...dont fall for it..(wink wink)
I don't know what my friend circle has to do with this thread but it reaches into every single borough of NY.
 
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Inventing Enemies

The motivation behind the attacks on Indian Americans is a combination of seeing South Asians as terrorists and Indians as usurpers of high-tech jobs.

By Vijay Prashad

March 24, 2017 " - On February 22, Adam Purinton of Olathe, Kansas, was at Austin’s Bar and Grill. He saw two men, both from India, and began to argue with them. “Get out of my country,” Purinton said to the two men, Srinivas Kuchibhotla, 32, and Alok Madasani, 32, both tech workers at the multinational technology firm Garmin. Purinton began to yell racist slurs at the men, got out his gun and began to shoot. A bystander, Ian Grillot, rose from his hiding place to catch the gunman. He was then shot through his chest and hand. Kuchibhotla died, while Madasani survived his wounds. Grillot, one of whose vertebrae was fractured, also survived. “I was just doing what anyone should have done for another human being,” he said from his hospital bed.

A week later, on March 2, Harnish Patel, 43, a businessman, was shot dead just outside his house in the quiet town of Lancaster, South Carolina. Patel ran a Speed Mart—a convenience store that was popular in his area—and was known as a popular employer as well as a kind man. While the Federal Bureau of Investigation has decided to investigate the Kuchibhotla killing as a hate crime, Lancaster County Sheriff Barry Faile said: “I don’t have any reason to believe that this [the killing of Patel] was racially motivated.”

The next day, on March 3, Deep Rai was working on his car in the driveway of his house in the East Hill neighbourhood of the Seattle suburb of Kent, Washington. A white man wearing a mask confronted Rai, a Sikh who wears a turban, and said: “Go back to your own country.” Then he shot Rai in the arm. Rai survived the attack. Kent Police Chief Ken Thomas said that his department was taking the attack very seriously.

The theme of “get out of my country” or “go back to your own country” is central to these attacks. A new website by Asian Americans Advancing Justice (AAAJ) asks people to report hate crimes (standagainsthatred.org). The impetus for this website was the attacks on East Asian Americans as a consequence of Donald Trump’s anti-China rhetoric, Karin Wang of AAAJ said. “It is reminiscent of the 1980s when Japan was portrayed as the economic enemy,” Karin Wang noted. Japan was seen at the time as a threat to the United States auto industry. Now China is depicted as a thief of U.S. jobs.






It is not the anti-China rhetoric that drives the attacks on Indian Americans. What motivates them is a combination of seeing Indians as terrorists and of seeing Indians as usurpers of high-tech jobs. Kuchibhotla, Patel and Rai are not the first to be assaulted in this way, nor will they be the last. After 9/11, many Sikhs were shot or beaten because the turban they wore was identified with the turban worn by Osama Bin Laden. In 2012, Wade Michael Page went into a gurdwara in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, and shot dead six people and wounded four others. He came to start a “racial holy war”.

The sewer of white supremacy that produced Page and Purinton does not distinguish between Iranians and Indians, Sikhs and Muslims. It reeks of resentment and hatred, bilious political anger of the most dangerous kind.

Who is a terrorist?

Purinton suggested that he had killed two Iranians or “Middle Easterners”. It is no point saying that Indian Americans are neither Iranians nor “Middle Easterners”. To Purinton, these men were Iranian. It is enough that he believed it. His gun was more important than their denials.

Hollywood has made it a habit to hire South Asians to play “terrorists”. The role Aasif Mandvi (born in Mumbai) played in The Siege (1998) defined the terrorist as South Asian looking. Last year, Riz Ahmed, the British-born child of Pakistani parents, wrote a powerful essay on his experience as an actor. Called “Typecast as a Terrorist”, the essay lays out Ahmed’s struggle to find roles outside the stereotype and of his experiences at the U.S. immigration counter. “As a minority, no sooner do you learn to polish and cherish one chip on your shoulder than it’s taken off you and swapped for another,” wrote Ahmed. “The jewellery of your struggles is forever on loan, like the Koh-i-Noor diamond in the crown jewels. You are intermittently handed a necklace of labels to hang around your neck, neither of your choosing nor making, both constricting and decorative.”

The point is never whether one is or is not an “Arab” or a “terrorist” but that one resembles an “Arab” or a “terrorist” in the imagination of a racist. Stereotypes become reality; hatred short-circuits rationality. It is infantile to yell “I am not an Arab” or “I am not a racist”. People like Purinton and Page do not care about such denials. They see what they want to see. The litmus test for them is the brown skin. It glistens with the word “terrorist”.

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President Donald Trump’s special adviser Steve Bannon has long disparaged South Asian high-tech workers such as Kuchibhotla and Madasani. In 2015, Bannon interviewed candidate Trump on the Breitbart News Daily radio show. Bannon suggested that there were far too many Asians in the high-tech industry in the U.S. and that perhaps there should be barriers placed on their entry. The H-1B visa, which allows high-tech workers to enter the U.S., is a particular grouse of Bannon’s. Trump expressed doubts about Bannon’s extreme views: “We have to be careful of that, Steve,” Trump said. “You know,” he continued, “we have to keep our talented people in this country.” Bannon would have none of it. “When two-thirds or three-quarters of the CEOs in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think…,” he said, then hesitated. “A country is more than an economy,” Bannon said. “We’re a civic society.”

By “civic society”, Bannon meant that the first priority of the U.S. should be to its own “native” citizens. In other words, white Americans need to be the first in the queue for the benefits of the country. In March 2016, Trump absorbed Bannon’s position. “The H-1B programme,” Trump said, “is neither high-skilled nor immigration: these are temporary foreign workers, imported from abroad, for the explicit purpose of substituting for American workers at lower pay. I will end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labour programme and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers first.” When the term “American workers” is used, people like Purinton and Page hear “white workers”. It is what they signal when they yell: “Go back to your country.”

In another radio show, in April 2016, Bannon said that the migrants to the U.S. “are not Jeffersonian democrats”. “These are not people with thousands of years of democracy in their DNA coming here,” he said. The idea of democracy in the DNA could only imply that certain “races” have democracy under their skin and that Asians are not in that company.

An idiosyncratic group in Ohio, Save American Information Technology Jobs, hounds Indian Americans in public places to document their lives. The group produced a document on “Indian guest workers in the Great Midwest”, which shows Indians in parks and outside their homes. The author is flabbergasted by the increase in the number of Indians in the area. “Displacement of Americans has occurred,” notes the report, “and Indians with various visa documents in hand have become part of the landscape.” The report drips with resentment and anger. The hand that holds the iPhone camera to produce this report shares the same motivation of the men with the guns who shot the Indian Americans. Both hands are not far either from the opinions of Trump’s adviser Bannon.

Kuchibhotla’s wife, Sunayana Dumala, wrote a moving Facebook post on February 28. At the end of her note, she asked: “the question that is in every immigrant’s mind—DO WE BELONG HERE? Is this the same country we dreamed of and is it still secure to raise our families and children here?” Sunayana Dumala does not answer her question. There is no answer from her.

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