Another Indian Exclusive, ISI setting up training camps in Thailand, Malaysia

[DESERT FIGHTER]

@Windjammer where the bloody hell have you been yaarA??



well it was Benazir Bhutto the idiot (i know she's no longer alive so i should respect her name, but its hard) who sold out Pakistan's Khalistan objectives.

but even if this news were true - why would we need to recruit Punjabi Sikhs in Thailand when tens of thousands of them flock to Pakistan their holy land every year for pilgrimage?

After her Musharaf did a lot of damage n was ready to Fuk all of it up.... Good thing he was stopped.

 

[Zaalim]

You don't need rocket science to understand, When your agency have to spend more energies on counter-intelligence at home than playing at opponent's territory, it simply mean that enemies are more competent and have better tactics.

Bull shit. Are they getting properly funded especially by Noora regime?

Nawaz himself is too busy trying to convince Modi that he gives zabardast chupaas. Better than Obama...

 

[Slav Defence]

Chandigarh: Pakistan spy unit ISI is setting up terror training camps in Thailand and Malaysia to recruit Punjabis, say sources. The startling revelation was made by former Punjab Chief Minister Beant Singh's assassin Jagtar Singh Tara during.

According to sources, Tara is also believed to have said during the investigation that the ISI has been trying to revive terror in Punjab for several years.

Four Sikh terrorists have been arrested from Thailand in the past three months. Central intelligence agency inputs have suggested that Punjabis are being lured to training camps in South East Asian countries on the pretext of giving them jobs.
Tara was arrested on January 6, 2015 from Thailand by the Thai Police and was deported to India on January 16. Tara is self styled chief of Khalistan Tiger Force. He along with three others had escaped from Burail Jail in Chandigarh in a sensational tunnel escape in 2004.

Pakistan's ISI setting up terror training camps in Thailand, Malaysia to recruit Punjabis: Sources - IBNLive

Some extremist elements in there are desperate to demonize our intelligence agencies because there is no other way to attain world's favour for them,but how sad,we are not Palestine-we know for how to encounter their nexus. So,when they fail their play on ground,they began to attack us via such ridiculous constipated conspiracy theories.The truth is that intellects at both regions are aware of this fact that how complicated it is.Whether it is operation deep strike planned by Indian regime or vice versa, we both have gained a little and lost a lot.Yet still if some people have insoluble dilemma of adolescence, then what we can do except smiling? Heh!

@Windjammer where the bloody hell have you been yaarA??



well it was Benazir Bhutto the idiot (i know she's no longer alive so i should respect her name, but its hard) who sold out Pakistan's Khalistan objectives.

but even if this news were true - why would we need to recruit Punjabi Sikhs in Thailand when tens of thousands of them flock to Pakistan their holy land every year for pilgrimage?

..boy oh boy,we have got nothing even after such favour, we are still demonized and still shit is being thrown by these people.I have seen least Indians talking about blacklisting terrorists outfits and khalistani movement. Did their regime ever favored us like that? I don't think so!
Honestly, I don't expect to hear anything good from them about us.I remember when I shared this with an Indian he was so astonished. He didn't believed me that we provided them info related to khalsa movement. I don't expect to hear any good from them, maybe I always had bad experience!
So,if we are terrorism supporting nation then why to give such favors next time?
Danke!

 

[Sugarcane]

And what data do you have access to that you concluded they don't spend enough time in opponent's territory? The "ISI weekly"?

I surely don't get daily updates of "ISI's Work" around the globe like you. But from what's happening within Pakistan and her neighbors, it's not difficult to reach at logical conclusion where agency is spending time unless you claim that playing games in other countries is more important for ISI than ensuring security/integrity of state and countering moves of others at home.

What do you want them to achieve? Either you are naïve or one of those Pakistanis living abroad who hate their roots, because it gives them bad name.

Dude, stop being personal.

 

[I.R.A]

Dude, stop being personal.

Sorry I don't want to be personal but I also don't like people with Pakistani flag placing unnecessary blames while all along sitting in some other country. That said for me if enemy is afraid of ISI then it's doing its best in Pakistan's interest and by the way if they were inefficient all following would have happened a long time ago

• Baluchistan would have been a separate state on world's map
• Pakistan would have been dis armed of it's strategic assets
• Our nukes would have been compromised along time ago
• FATA would have been under NATO forces control
• The precision strikes in terrorists' area would not have been possible
• Afghanistan would have remained the same as under Karzai's charge
• NATO and US would not be exiting Afghanistan in such a manner
• India would have done surgical strikes along ago as it once had dream of doing so
• Pakistan would never have been able to conduct it's nuclear tests after all that pressure

Things are not all that bad after all it just takes a little different angle to analyze matters differently, when you have multiple fronts to fight at and numerous agencies (both Muslim and non Muslims) to counter at your own territory then it's not an easy job and considering the situation for the time being they have been excellent and I believe their counter parts would acknowledge it.

 

[Kompromat]

@Windjammer where the bloody hell have you been yaarA??



well it was Benazir Bhutto the idiot (i know she's no longer alive so i should respect her name, but its hard) who sold out Pakistan's Khalistan objectives.

but even if this news were true - why would we need to recruit Punjabi Sikhs in Thailand when tens of thousands of them flock to Pakistan their holy land every year for pilgrimage?

Sikhs don't deserve a country. Hindus are taking good 'care' of them. They are preventing a national security threat to Pakistan,

 

[xyxmt]

Chandigarh: Pakistan spy unit ISI is setting up terror training camps in Thailand and Malaysia to recruit Punjabis, say sources. The startling revelation was made by former Punjab Chief Minister Beant Singh's assassin Jagtar Singh Tara during.

According to sources, Tara is also believed to have said during the investigation that the ISI has been trying to revive terror in Punjab for several years.

Four Sikh terrorists have been arrested from Thailand in the past three months. Central intelligence agency inputs have suggested that Punjabis are being lured to training camps in South East Asian countries on the pretext of giving them jobs.
Tara was arrested on January 6, 2015 from Thailand by the Thai Police and was deported to India on January 16. Tara is self styled chief of Khalistan Tiger Force. He along with three others had escaped from Burail Jail in Chandigarh in a sensational tunnel escape in 2004.

Pakistan's ISI setting up terror training camps in Thailand, Malaysia to recruit Punjabis: Sources - IBNLive

thats a revelation, Thailand and Malaysia have punjab too and even in those countries sindis are being ignored.

 

[Sugarcane]

Sorry I don't want to be personal but I also don't like people with Pakistani flag placing unnecessary blames while all along sitting in some other country. That said for me if enemy is afraid of ISI then it's doing its best in Pakistan's interest and by the way if they were inefficient all following would have happened a long time ago

• Baluchistan would have been a separate state on world's map
• Pakistan would have been dis armed of it's strategic assets
• Our nukes would have been compromised along time ago
• FATA would have been under NATO forces control
• The precision strikes in terrorists' area would not have been possible
• Afghanistan would have remained the same as under Karzai's charge
• NATO and US would not be exiting Afghanistan in such a manner
• India would have done surgical strikes along ago as it once had dream of doing so
• Pakistan would never have been able to conduct it's nuclear tests after all that pressure

Things are not all that bad after all it just takes a little different angle to analyze matters differently, when you have multiple fronts to fight at and numerous agencies (both Muslim and non Muslims) to counter at your own territory then it's not an easy job and considering the situation for the time being they have been excellent and I believe their counter parts would acknowledge it.

Dude - People sitting in some other country are probably more nationalistic and their contribution is far better than many useless people sitting within country and axing on her roots. And your benchmark of giving high marks to ISI is that they are doing good job in fighting back (at home) while my benchmark is keep enemies occupied within their home territory, and deny them space for adventures in Pakistan.

 

[I.R.A]

Dude - People sitting in some other country are probably more nationalistic and their contribution is far better than many useless people sitting within country and axing on her roots. And your benchmark of giving high marks to ISI is that they are doing good job in fighting back (at home) while my benchmark is keep enemies occupied within their home territory, and deny them space for adventures in Pakistan.

Party I did not have good experience with you expats on this forum, I don't want to name them so leave it aside. Its useless to explain once again that how we Pakistanis contribute here while staying back in our country.

Anyways Pakistan I believe never had any ambitions of foreign adventures. Our main aim was our survival as a sovereign country and nation. The only dispute we had/have for which we fought wars is Kashmir. It was our bad luck since day one that we had neighbors on both our East and West who would not accept us and kept terrorizing us, that's one reason Pakistan went into Afghanistan. Apart from that we had no intentions of adventuring into foreign lands. So with our focus limited to our own country and domestic fronts we did all the best we could to protect it even in most dire times with our lives on line. If that is not appreciable then I don't know what is.

Name any other agency that has been pain in the rear for Russia's KGB, America's CIA, India's RAW, Israel's Mossad and some of very dear Muslim brother countries? Name any other agency who has faced worst waives of terrorism over a decade and has proven resilient and sprung back?

If we are talking in context of India, then this is enough credit to our agency that today India though is mightier than us in numbers, enjoys all the International support but still dare not attack us. What Pakistan went through believe no other nation could have survived that.

 

[Green Arrow]

Seems like modi govt will keep Indian public busy with anti pak bashing in next 4 yrs

 

[Green Arrow]

What do you want them to achieve? Either you are naïve or one of those Pakistanis living abroad who hate their roots, because it gives them bad name.

Most of Pakistani got no idea about our isi achievements. People who are serving in the agency know better than any other that what kind of contribution and sacrifices they are giving for this country to protect its interests.

 

[Sugarcane]

Party I did not have good experience with you expats on this forum, I don't want to name them so leave it aside. Its useless to explain once again that how we Pakistanis contribute here while staying back in our country..

I also don't have good experience with you "Patriotic Resident Pakistanis" on this forum and in real world, should i stereotype that everyone living in Pakistan is corrupt, terrorist sympathizer and extremist?

Anyways Pakistan I believe never had any ambitions of foreign adventures. Our main aim was our survival as a sovereign country and nation. The only dispute we had/have for which we fought wars is Kashmir. It was our bad luck since day one that we had neighbors on both our East and West who would not accept us and kept terrorizing us, that's one reason Pakistan went into Afghanistan. Apart from that we had no intentions of adventuring into foreign lands. So with our focus limited to our own country and domestic fronts we did all the best we could to protect it even in most dire times with our lives on line. If that is not appreciable then I don't know what is.

There is nothing like that you want to do something in foreign lands or not, you have to do whatever is required to neutralize enemy moves and to protect yourself and your interest. That's the reason intelligences like ISI are created, if you just want to maintain security within country than what's need of ISI? Just make civil agencies like IB & FIA more stronger.

Name any other agency that has been pain in the rear for Russia's KGB, America's CIA, India's RAW, Israel's Mossad and some of very dear Muslim brother countries? Name any other agency who has faced worst waives of terrorism over a decade and has proven resilient and sprung back?.

Terrorism is Pakistan is failure of our own, all the foreign agencies you are blaming just exploited the vulnerabilities which were already there because of flawed policies and no measures to control it. Yes our agencies are doing well in fighting back which must be appreciated but at same time we shouldn't ignore the failure of not taking preemptive measures and not letting situation getting out of hands.

If we are talking in context of India, then this is enough credit to our agency that today India though is mightier than us in numbers, enjoys all the International support but still dare not attack us. What Pakistan went through believe no other nation could have survived that.

Do you seriously think that because of ISI India don't dare to attack?

 

[rockstar08]

Indians : never go full Retard ..

 

[I.R.A]

I also don't have good experience with you "Patriotic Resident Pakistanis" on this forum and in real world, should i stereotype that everyone living in Pakistan is corrupt, terrorist sympathizer and extremist?

Party seriously I am not that person you want to have this discussion with okay, I said leave it aside so better leave it aside. Don't come again and again asking for it.

There is nothing like that you want to do something in foreign lands or not, you have to do whatever is required to neutralize enemy moves and to protect yourself and your interest. That's the reason intelligences like ISI are created, if you just want to maintain security within country than what's need of ISI? Just make civil agencies like IB & FIA more stronger.

Stop watching Hollywood movies, you cannot go Rambo every time. I am not ISI's public relations staff, if you have such serious concerns about their performance please go ask them and let them know. My post was to say that I am pretty much satisfied with their performance and will stand with them as a Nation to support them.

Terrorism is Pakistan is failure of our own, all the foreign agencies you are blaming just exploited the vulnerabilities which were already there because of flawed policies and no measures to control it. Yes our agencies are doing well in fighting back which must be appreciated but at same time we shouldn't ignore the failure of not taking preemptive measures and not letting situation getting out of hands.

Agreed.

Do you seriously think that because of ISI India don't dare to attack?

No it was not ISI operatives and assets instead a team of our JCOs went into India to pinpoint their strategic sites for targeting. Happy now.

 

[samv]

India shouldn't complain really. Was more than happy to fund, arm and train Tamil terrorists on its soil to wreak havoc in Sri Lanka. What goes around comes around. A strong and powerful ISI is a boon to the region as far as the smaller countries are concerned - another cog to keep a hegemonic and controlling India in check.