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Another Chinese Warship Looks ‘Stunningly Similar’ To US Stealth Zumwalt Destroyer; Images Of PLAN Vessel Go Viral On Social Media​


ByAshish Dangwal

February 23, 2022

A hazy photograph of a mysterious Chinese warship is doing the rounds on social media days after J-10C fighter jets, meant for the Pakistan Air Force, were spotted at Chengdu Aerospace Corporation’s factory.

The new image shows the silhouette of a boat with a hilly shoreline dotted with shipyard tower cranes in the background. The description given in the original posts says this is a test boat undergoing trials.

A few days back, an unknown Chinese submarine was spotted in a video. The submarine was seen surfacing in a reservoir in that video posted on Facebook.

Commenting on the new ship, H I Sutton, a naval expert, stated, “Although China has an incredible shipbuilding capacity, with many yards, it seems unlikely that it could be a full-sized warship. Such a development would be hard to hide. But like the recent mystery submarine, China has a proven track record of surprising the world with smaller unknown vessels.”
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Image of China’s New Naval vessel – Twitter

According to Sutton, the ship resembles the US Navy Zumwalt Class stealth destroyer at first glance. Initial assessments show that it has a wave-piercing bow and a big box-like superstructure. The Zumwalt reference comes from the fact that it has sloping sides.

“However the Chinese vessel may have trimaran outriggers mounted towards the aft of the hull, like the US Navy’s Sea Hunter uncrewed surface vessel (USV),” he added.

It is widely known that China has the capability and resources to build experimental ships. Furthermore, Chinese naval engineers are interested in novel hull designs and have suggested a number of trimaran warships. The new ship could be a test-bed for some of these concepts.

A Copy Of US Navy’s Sea Hunter USV?

China has already built what is seen as a ‘Sea Hunter clone’. That trimaran first surfaced in September 2020. It was manufactured by Jiang Tongfang New Shipbuilding Co., Ltd., a small shipyard on the Yangtze River. This shipyard apparently isn’t normally associated with major PLAN projects.

The unmanned Sea Hunter was intended to be part of the ACTUV (Continuous Trail Unmanned Vessel) program. The primary objective of the uncrewed surface vessel (USV) is to detect silent diesel-electric submarines.

The Chinese vessel is somewhat longer and wider than the Sea Hunter. As a result, it may have a greater displacement.
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File Image: Zumwalt Destroyer

Nuclear submarines are thought to be capable of outrunning the USV due to higher speed. As a result, the US Navy’s own submarine will be mostly unaffected. Nevertheless, countries with diesel submarines, such as Japan, India, and Australia, might be prime markets for this system.

In numerous critical details, the latest vessel closely matches the ‘Sea Hunter’ design, according to Sutton. If the assumption about the trimaran outriggers is correct, then the Chinese design is similar to that of the US vessel. The bow and superstructure of that ship are remarkably similar too.

However, some differences exist between the two. The preceding vessel, in particular, features a characteristic conical radome on the superstructure. As a result, it could represent an ongoing improvement on the previous trimaran USV prototype, the ‘Sea Hunter.’

That vessel does not seem to be affiliated to the Navy (PLAN), but this one could be. This raises the prospect that the new one will be a surface vessel with really no crew. The Chinese Navy, it is said, wants to develop these technologies. It also has a sizable, largely unreported drone boat program.

 
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Another Chinese Warship Looks ‘Stunningly Similar’ To US Stealth Zumwalt Destroyer; Images Of PLAN Vessel Go Viral On Social Media​


ByAshish Dangwal

February 23, 2022

A hazy photograph of a mysterious Chinese warship is doing the rounds on social media days after J-10C fighter jets, meant for the Pakistan Air Force, were spotted at Chengdu Aerospace Corporation’s factory.

The new image shows the silhouette of a boat with a hilly shoreline dotted with shipyard tower cranes in the background. The description given in the original posts says this is a test boat undergoing trials.

A few days back, an unknown Chinese submarine was spotted in a video. The submarine was seen surfacing in a reservoir in that video posted on Facebook.

Commenting on the new ship, H I Sutton, a naval expert, stated, “Although China has an incredible shipbuilding capacity, with many yards, it seems unlikely that it could be a full-sized warship. Such a development would be hard to hide. But like the recent mystery submarine, China has a proven track record of surprising the world with smaller unknown vessels.”
Image
Image of China’s New Naval vessel – Twitter

According to Sutton, the ship resembles the US Navy Zumwalt Class stealth destroyer at first glance. Initial assessments show that it has a wave-piercing bow and a big box-like superstructure. The Zumwalt reference comes from the fact that it has sloping sides.

“However the Chinese vessel may have trimaran outriggers mounted towards the aft of the hull, like the US Navy’s Sea Hunter uncrewed surface vessel (USV),” he added.

It is widely known that China has the capability and resources to build experimental ships. Furthermore, Chinese naval engineers are interested in novel hull designs and have suggested a number of trimaran warships. The new ship could be a test-bed for some of these concepts.

A Copy Of US Navy’s Sea Hunter USV?

China has already built what is seen as a ‘Sea Hunter clone’. That trimaran first surfaced in September 2020. It was manufactured by Jiang Tongfang New Shipbuilding Co., Ltd., a small shipyard on the Yangtze River. This shipyard apparently isn’t normally associated with major PLAN projects.

The unmanned Sea Hunter was intended to be part of the ACTUV (Continuous Trail Unmanned Vessel) program. The primary objective of the uncrewed surface vessel (USV) is to detect silent diesel-electric submarines.

The Chinese vessel is somewhat longer and wider than the Sea Hunter. As a result, it may have a greater displacement.
Last Zumwalt Destroyer Completes Builder's Trials - Breaking Defense Breaking Defense - Defense industry news, analysis and commentary
File Image: Zumwalt Destroyer

Nuclear submarines are thought to be capable of outrunning the USV due to higher speed. As a result, the US Navy’s own submarine will be mostly unaffected. Nevertheless, countries with diesel submarines, such as Japan, India, and Australia, might be prime markets for this system.

In numerous critical details, the latest vessel closely matches the ‘Sea Hunter’ design, according to Sutton. If the assumption about the trimaran outriggers is correct, then the Chinese design is similar to that of the US vessel. The bow and superstructure of that ship are remarkably similar too.

However, some differences exist between the two. The preceding vessel, in particular, features a characteristic conical radome on the superstructure. As a result, it could represent an ongoing improvement on the previous trimaran USV prototype, the ‘Sea Hunter.’

That vessel does not seem to be affiliated to the Navy (PLAN), but this one could be. This raises the prospect that the new one will be a surface vessel with really no crew. The Chinese Navy, it is said, wants to develop these technologies. It also has a sizable, largely unreported drone boat program.


Chinese are producing new vessels like hot cakes and its only the beginning.
 
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China is producing warship at a extreme pace yet china only spends 1.3% of it's GDP on military. Could you imagine if it was 3%?
 
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China is producing warship at a extreme pace yet china only spends 1.3% of it's GDP on military. Could you imagine if it was 3%?
Chinese is smart to keep nuclear warhead at minimum to keep expenditure down.
 
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Chinese is smart to keep nuclear warhead at minimum to keep expenditure down.



Nuclear weapons are only 15-20% of total military expenditure.

US spends too much for what it gets and both China and Russia are more efficient in their military expenditures.
 
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Chinese is smart to keep nuclear warhead at minimum to keep expenditure down.

Keeping nuclear warhead at minimum is a big mistake. It makes all out war much more likely. Nuclear warhead parity with the US is the only way to deter them.

Nuclear warhead parity + advanced delivery capabilities + first-use nuclear policy = deter the US
 
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Keeping nuclear warhead at minimum is a big mistake. It makes all out war much more likely. Nuclear warhead parity with the US is the only way to deter them.

Nuclear warhead parity + advanced delivery capabilities + first-use nuclear policy = deter the US
China minimal deterrent doesn't meant we have only 400 nuke warhead. In fact, China stockpile around 800-1000 number which is enough to take on multiple countries at same time. But having 5000-7000 warhead are too much hinderance of maintenance cost. The money save can be freed for other more meaningful projects.
 
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Nuclear weapons are only 15-20% of total military expenditure.

US spends too much for what it gets and both China and Russia are more efficient in their military expenditures.
75% of the workforce in US defense industry is dead weight and they earn a much higher per capita salary then their Russian and Chinese counterparts. Socialism for the rich power military industrial complex when it suits them.
 
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Zumwalt despite all her shortcomings, have exceptional RCS. It is worth investigating her stealth features.
 
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Another Chinese Warship Looks ‘Stunningly Similar’ To US Stealth Zumwalt Destroyer; Images Of PLAN Vessel Go Viral On Social Media​


ByAshish Dangwal

February 23, 2022

A hazy photograph of a mysterious Chinese warship is doing the rounds on social media days after J-10C fighter jets, meant for the Pakistan Air Force, were spotted at Chengdu Aerospace Corporation’s factory.

The new image shows the silhouette of a boat with a hilly shoreline dotted with shipyard tower cranes in the background. The description given in the original posts says this is a test boat undergoing trials.

A few days back, an unknown Chinese submarine was spotted in a video. The submarine was seen surfacing in a reservoir in that video posted on Facebook.

Commenting on the new ship, H I Sutton, a naval expert, stated, “Although China has an incredible shipbuilding capacity, with many yards, it seems unlikely that it could be a full-sized warship. Such a development would be hard to hide. But like the recent mystery submarine, China has a proven track record of surprising the world with smaller unknown vessels.”
Image
Image of China’s New Naval vessel – Twitter

According to Sutton, the ship resembles the US Navy Zumwalt Class stealth destroyer at first glance. Initial assessments show that it has a wave-piercing bow and a big box-like superstructure. The Zumwalt reference comes from the fact that it has sloping sides.

“However the Chinese vessel may have trimaran outriggers mounted towards the aft of the hull, like the US Navy’s Sea Hunter uncrewed surface vessel (USV),” he added.

It is widely known that China has the capability and resources to build experimental ships. Furthermore, Chinese naval engineers are interested in novel hull designs and have suggested a number of trimaran warships. The new ship could be a test-bed for some of these concepts.

A Copy Of US Navy’s Sea Hunter USV?

China has already built what is seen as a ‘Sea Hunter clone’. That trimaran first surfaced in September 2020. It was manufactured by Jiang Tongfang New Shipbuilding Co., Ltd., a small shipyard on the Yangtze River. This shipyard apparently isn’t normally associated with major PLAN projects.

The unmanned Sea Hunter was intended to be part of the ACTUV (Continuous Trail Unmanned Vessel) program. The primary objective of the uncrewed surface vessel (USV) is to detect silent diesel-electric submarines.

The Chinese vessel is somewhat longer and wider than the Sea Hunter. As a result, it may have a greater displacement.
Last Zumwalt Destroyer Completes Builder's Trials - Breaking Defense Breaking Defense - Defense industry news, analysis and commentary
File Image: Zumwalt Destroyer

Nuclear submarines are thought to be capable of outrunning the USV due to higher speed. As a result, the US Navy’s own submarine will be mostly unaffected. Nevertheless, countries with diesel submarines, such as Japan, India, and Australia, might be prime markets for this system.

In numerous critical details, the latest vessel closely matches the ‘Sea Hunter’ design, according to Sutton. If the assumption about the trimaran outriggers is correct, then the Chinese design is similar to that of the US vessel. The bow and superstructure of that ship are remarkably similar too.

However, some differences exist between the two. The preceding vessel, in particular, features a characteristic conical radome on the superstructure. As a result, it could represent an ongoing improvement on the previous trimaran USV prototype, the ‘Sea Hunter.’

That vessel does not seem to be affiliated to the Navy (PLAN), but this one could be. This raises the prospect that the new one will be a surface vessel with really no crew. The Chinese Navy, it is said, wants to develop these technologies. It also has a sizable, largely unreported drone boat program.


So copied Zumwalt as well....well Done. " Cntrl C---> Cntrl V.. Long live president Xi"
 
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So copied Zumwalt as well....well Done. " Cntrl C---> Cntrl V.. Long live president Xi"

You need a massive industrial complex to do ctl c, ctl v with ships and aircraft.

When you do have that massive industrial complex, you don't need to do ctl c, ctl v. Drawing ideas on paper is always easier to do than to actually build stuff.

But the massive industrial complex spitting out systems left and right following the similar solutions to physical laws does allow jealous idiots to yell "copy" as if building war machines that float, fly and kill is the same as copying text. lol
 
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You can hand the blueprints of an airplane or a frigate or even just an assault rifle to an Amazonian or Bantu tribe all the way up to countries like India and you will not get anything working out of that piece of paper.

I remember Immelt, the CEO of GE engines, saying that a bright idea is meaningless unless you can build it and in his business you need to invest money and material year after year, decade after decade to have a system that can build an engine.

China invested money and material into an industrial base that can build practically anything.
 
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