This post is a response to Indian members on the thread.
You all can say that the ayodhya issue is irrelevant is basically my opinion, but the fact remains that it has never been an issue for all Indians.
OO yeah what makes you so sure? If no one talks about it in public in fear of being named a rightwing fundamentalist (yes the media created mentality where anyone speaking for hindus is a fundamentalist and they and only they are "seculars" what rubbish.) you assume they don't care is it? The media has people in their grips and they tighten it especially in case of right wingers.
The BJP could never nor can it now come to power because of the issue. At its height, the movement was only polarizing in North India, what is called the cow belt. During the demolition, the BJP was in power in only two states, so to say that it is an issue for all Hindus is absurd.
The issue is not because of one political party called BJP the issue has been centuries old, if you don't know about it I suggest you read about it and then discuss it here. BJP, RSS and VHP brought this issue to the fore of national politics. You can judge them for doing it whatever way you want to. Im not forcing you to take my line of thinking and follow it blindly.
Secondly, why should ayodhya be the place of the temple? based on historical evidence?
Yes based on historical evidence that a temple existed at the place where Babri was built.
There is no historical evidence that Ram even existed, we are after all speaking of a character of a Sanskrit epic.
Do you believe in god? Can you prove god exists? Have you seen him?? ... please spare us with your atheistic questions and do us a favor will you mate?
It doesn't matter if Ram existed or not.. it's what Ram as a prince.. Ram as a king, Ram as a son, Ram as a husband, Ram as a ruler, Ram as a friend, Ram as a devotee, Ram as a master stood for.
What he did right and what he did wrong.. it's not he who people should ideally worship it's his teaching what people should try and live up to, learn and try not to commit same mistakes that he did. And eventually worship him for what he taught us through his life.
By this logic, shall we also erect shrines based on Milton's Paradise lost? Closer to home, perhaps we should build temples on Kannaki based on the tamil epic Cillapatikaram?
You have no idea what hinduism is do you? blabbering stuff you don't know about is dangerous dude.
So based on what? Faith alone? Well there are a lot of places that claim to be the birthplace of Ram on faith alone, so why should we single out Ayodhya in UP?
I've heared this first time.. do you care to provide me with links and the claims?
Lets come to archaeological evidence, i have read reports that say that a temple existed prior to the mosque. Let us assume these reports are accurate, what does it prove? That muslim rulers in the medieval ages destroyed temples? So?
So make things right, after all it is "Hindu"stan.
As stated before, Buddhist shrines were destroyed during the rule of Hindu kings (Whether you children want to believe it or not, fact is, it did happen)
This is the second time you're telling us this... Do you care to give us links about it? And i have replied to your earlier post in which you mentioned it.. Read it.
I'm pretty sure Christian kingdoms destroyed Muslim places of worship during the crusades as well. What this tells us that the medieval world was not really a religiously tolerant time. Nothing more.
Sure it wasn't and it still isn't but the way crusades are performed is changed.. it's not more about who has the better sword or who has the better guns.. It's about who has more money thts about it and Hindus were the worst at defending their religion from that wrath in those times and still are hopeless in the context of the current form of crusades. So now it's time to make amends and work on it. It's never too late to start.
and some of you are seriously suggesting that 21st century India should be held hostage to these medieval practices and thinking? that we should right so called historical wrongs even though they happened in a time when the British hadn't even thought of the word "Raj"? that we should make decisions on how we live as a community based on something that happened may or may not have happened 600 years ago? And that the temple/mosque issue being irrelevant is only my opinion? Yeah right.
PS - What this rubbish about Hindus need to redeem their dignity? Is our dignity so fragile? Pathetic really.
You look like a wellfed city breed boy, and no there is nothing wrong if you feel the way you do regarding this issue. But at the end of it.. it's only your personal opinion or maybe your family's opinion. There are people who are just like you wellfed city breed boys who think that this issue is very much relevant. Your ignorance about your religion and history baffles me. yeah this is all rubbish sorry to waste your time.. instead of arguing with me on what i feel to be a relevant and just cause.. why don't you go and watch a movie or something.. i've heard Ninja Assassin is good... leave it to me and likes of me to find a solution.