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Annan: Russia, West agree on transition government for Syria

Yes but compare the numbers millions to a 100 rats, thats nothing little boy.

ahh the lill boys dont that butcher love to kill lill boys, shame on the butcher for killing lill innocent boys
u use ak47 against small children that is how brave ur butcher is

funny is gadafi also said to libyans rats whats with dictators and rats?

No body would have botherd towards syria if they would not have heard small children being killed

the crying of children who can not even speak Hurts ALLAH THE ALLMIGHTY

this where "MUJAHIDEEN" are born.

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The photos of dead babies are too graphical for me to post.

May ALLMIGHT ALLAH BLESS THE FREE SYRIAN ARMY.
 
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i said with many UN represantatives on the voting from your beloved russia aswell , and i dno 30 countries for example and like 5,000 represantatives who witness real elections

You should study history a bit, UN representatives or not, West wont acknowledge voting when their opponent wins. Like Gaddafi suggested referendum under full UN supervision, West declined. Why? Because they knew Gaddafi would win, same with Assad.

Therefore what you are suggesting is stillborn - West will never agree to see Assad among candidates in free elections, and even if he participates and wins - West will claim elections were faked, even with UN representatives on the ground.
 
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Actually what sounds suspect is Assad not allowing journalists into the country in the first place. :blink:

Didnt you know so called journalist in such cases are usually CIA/MI6 operatives? Its convenient cover. They can spy, coordinate terrorists, mark targets for bombing, etc.

Therefore its prudent not to allow spies in, and even when among them there are actual journalist, they misinform from the country as much as they do from the home.

Anyway you look at it, it makes perfect sense not to allow "journalists" from hostile countries in, nothing good will come out of it.
 
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‘Saudi Arabia fueling unrest in Syria’

UN human rights chief Navi Pillay says the flow of arms into Syria is “fueling the violence” in the Arab country, calling for an end to the militarization of the ongoing conflict.

Pillay did not specify where the arms are coming from, but UN diplomats believe that Saudi Arabia and Qatar have been supplying weapons to the armed Syrian rebels.

The UN official claimed that the situation in Syria is "a non-international internal armed conflict," the legal term for a civil war, saying “there is a risk of escalation.”

While the West and the Syrian opposition say the government is responsible for the killings, Damascus blames “outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups” for the unrest, insisting that it is being orchestrated from abroad.

Press TV has conducted an interview with Hisham Jaber, director, Middle East Studies Center, to further discuss the issue. The following is a rough transcription of the interview.

Press TV: Is Saudi Arabia in a position to criticize Syria?

Jaber: First of all, we have to mention that Saudi Arabia was always looking to be a regional power. No one can deny this. Saudi Arabia took advantage from the absence of Egypt from the Arab scene to play a regional role. Nobody can deny that Saudi Arabia did invest billions of dollars in Iraq and it didn’t get any significant results.

Now Saudi Arabia is trying in Syria to get what it lost in Iraq. Saudi Arabia invested and paid a lot of money since the beginning of the Syrian crisis; but now it came officially that Saudi Arabia is committed to pay the salaries of the so-called Free Syrian Army in order to encourage the Syrian officers and the Syrian soldiers to defect the army.

Saudi Arabia also is committed to pay, to finance the weapons, to provide weapons to the Free Syrian Army.

We learned yesterday that many of the officials in the Saudi Arabia capital, for example, have the idea when it was put to them: the Saudi officials said, according to the sources of three Arab countries, around the same time that weapons started to flow across southern Turkey in order to be given to the leaders of the opposition.


This position of Saudi Arabia, in my opinion, came by the American instruction. What America cannot do, it will allocate it to its allies in the region, like Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

America, for example, cannot recognize that it will provide weapons to the insurgents in Syria because America doesn’t know what will be the final destination of those weapons: maybe al-Qaeda.

In America there is a public opinion but Saudi Arabia doesn’t have any problem if those weapons will arrive to some extra mistake organization in Syria because Saudi Arabia believes that it has some control on those groups or those organizations.

I don’t think Saudi Arabia, when it came from this statement yesterday calling President Assad to respect the Kofi Annan plans and to let the army withdraw from the cities, it will help.

Saudi Arabia is supposed to talk about the other side of the problem which is the insurgence. There are a lot of insurgent groups in Syria.

Kofi Annan’s plan did fail because no one did recognize it had influence or pressure on those insurgents on the battlefield in Syria. The regime cannot withdraw from the cities and let the insurgents take advantage on the land.

Since the beginning, no one did admit or recognize or give even a promise to pressure on the opposition or the insurgence in Syria to respect the ceasefire. For this reason, nothing will succeed in my opinion; and [to] provide weapons to the so-called Free Syrian Army, it will not help at all to solve the problem in Syria.

The only solution in Syria, it will be the peaceful solution, the political solution where we did expect Saudi Arabia to be in this solution, not on the side of the armed groups in Syria and the insurgence.

Press TV: It doesn’t surprise you that you have Saudi Arabia, not only are they not discrete, not only are they not denying it, they are coming out in the open saying, yes, we are arming the opposition groups.

Then you have the UN official, Navi Pillay saying, yes, opposition groups are being armed, but not mentioning Saudi Arabia.

Isn’t that kind of strange how Saudi Arabia is admitting to this yet nothing is being done about it? Yet, that is one of the pivotal reasons why the bloodshed is going on?

Jaber: Yes, it is strange. It’s always been like this, the intervention in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia, for example, as we said, was always looking to play a regional role and did believe the Americans when they said the potential enemy’s Iran, which is very, very dangerous in my opinion.

Saudi Arabia’s high-ranking decision, the responsible [ones] did forget that America was behind the invasion of Kuwait by Saddam Hussein, and America was behind the war, invasion and aggression against Iran. They did forget this.

Now, when the Americans are trying to tell them that Iran is the potential enemy, it seems they believe in this.

Now, as we said, when America put Saudi Arabia to spend money and to pay to the insurgence and pay the high salaries to the so-called Free Syrian Army in order to encourage the Syrian officers to defect from the army, also Saudi Arabia said that it is in conflict, in war with al-Qaeda inside Saudi Arabia.

We see on the other hand that Saudi Arabia is encouraging very extremist Islamic groups outside Saudi Arabia like in Iraq, in Syria or wherever. The Saudis know very well that those groups, they know in one way or another, in the al-Qaeda belief in thinking, the al-Qaeda school and the al-Qaeda decision.

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US Officially Arming Extremists in Syria

Recently reported in “Brookings Announces Next Move in Syria: War,” it was stated that “by the US policy think-tank Brookings Institution’s own admission, the Kofi Annan six-point peace plan in Syria was merely a ploy to buy time to reorganize NATO’s ineffective terrorist proxies and provide them the pretext necessary for establishing NATO protected safe havens from which to carry out their terrorism from.”

It was also examined in detail, how in 2007, US, Saudi, and Israeli officials admitted they were creating a militant front of extremists for the sole purpose of causing the destabilization of Syria we see today, and ultimately overthrowing the Syrian government. It was noted how these extremist militants had direct ties to Al Qaeda.

Now it is fully admitted that weapons, cash, and logistical support is indeed being provided to terrorist forces in Syria by the United States, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and other Gulf States. This, despite a current UN ceasefire the West has continuously berated the Syrian government for violating, indicates that indeed reorganizing, rearming, and redeploying NATO’s terrorist proxies is complete, and another round of destructive violence has begun.

In the Washington Post’s article, “Syrian rebels get influx of arms with gulf neighbors’ money, U.S. coordination,” not only is this admitted, but claims made by Syrian President Bashar al-Assad have been confirmed that Syria’s historically violent Muslim Brotherhood, stated in 2007 by Seymour Hersh as being a direct proxy of US-Saudi-Israeli funding and support, is also directly arming and funding contingents of extremists committing acts of terror across Syria.

Areas across Syria that have until now been portrayed as centers for “pro-democracy” protests, racked by violence depicted as “repression” by Syrian troops, are now admitted by the Washington Post to be areas where “material is being stockpiled.”

This includes the flashpoint city of Idlib on the Turkish-Syrian border, in the suburbs of Damascus, and along Syria’s border with Lebanon. And again, in 2007, Seymour Hersh revealed that the US, Israel, and Saudi Arabia had planned to array extremists along Syria’s border to commit the very violence now being admitted by the Post today.

The Washington Post openly admits that these weapons, supplies, cash and support, provided by the US and Saudi Arabia are directly responsible for the increased violence in Syria, in the midst of a ceasefire the West has attempted to disingenuously use to defame the Syrian government, hamper its ability to restore order, and indeed, rearm, reorganize, and redeploy their terrorist proxies to begin another attempt at violent foreign-backed regime change:

“The effect of the new arms appeared evident in Monday’s clash between opposition and government forces over control of the rebel-held city of Rastan, near Homs. The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said rebel forces who overran a government base had killed 23 Syrian soldiers.” -Washington Post, May 16, 2012

The Post also admitted that Washington, again, in the midst of a UN ceasefire, was attempting to trigger yet more violence, this time in areas controlled by Syria’s Kurds who have remained out of the predominately foreign-backed conflict.

Paradoxically, the US and Gulf State military support being funneled into Syria to purposefully flare violence in the midst of a UN ceasefire, is continuing even after the Pentagon has admitted Al Qaeda is present and active in Syria, this after terrorist groups claimed responsibility for a series of bombings that have killed mostly civilians.

And in the midst of this admitted attempt to increase violence and chaos, the Washington Post also declared that NATO-member Turkey would be pressured to invoke Article IV of the NATO Charter, allowing NATO to militarily intervene to “stop” violence they openly admit they are creating.

Unlike previous conflicts – the US’ admission is not a hamhanded obfuscation of the their intentions, but an open declaration of intent to provoke a war of aggression – a Nuremberg offense for all involved. In fact, direct parallels between Adolf Hitler’s September 1938 campaign of destabilization in Czechoslovakia, and NATO’s current destabilization of Syria have been made by noted geopolitical analysts.

A historical conviction handed down by the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission, finding former-US President George W. Bush guilty of war crimes, sets a precedent to be used against those committing war crimes today, and of course a model to be expanded upon, including methods and official calls to impose sanctions on organizations and institutions supporting leaders committing war crimes, including both the policy think tanks engineering the war crimes and boycotting and banning the corporations and institutions funding these think-tanks.

This does not require an act by the UN, or your national government. You can begin boycotting these corporations today and thus begin undermining the authority and impunity from which they operate.

I may not agree with Assad and reform may be needed - but to arm civilians and create this situation is outrageous. If any other country tried to do this in ANY nation what would be the international response?
They are behaving like international pirates.


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Al Qaeda flowing into Syria, warns Iraq

BEIRUT - Iraq asserted yesterday that Al Qaeda insurgents are streaming out of the country to carry out attacks in Syria, an ominous development as the Syrian conflict enflames an already hostile region.

Extremists have been making inroads as the 16-month-old uprising against President Bashar Assad grinds on, bringing a dangerous new element to the forces fighting to topple the regime.

The militants are taking advantage of the chaos and the violence gripping Syria, which the head of the country's UN observer mission said yesterday had reached "unprecedented levels".

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said authorities are worried that extremists could gain another foothold in Syria, posing a new threat to the stability of the entire region.

"We have solid information and intelligence that members of Al Qaeda's terrorist network have gone to Syria," he told reporters in Baghdad. Mr Zebari did not elaborate or provide details but said his main concern is "extremist, terrorist groups taking root in neighboring countries".

It is a turnaround from the height of the Iraqi war six years ago, when weapons and fighters would cross from Syria to aid fellow Sunnis in Iraq. Mr Zebari said Baghdad has for years warned Damascus about Al Qaida traffic between Iraq and Syria.

In February, Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahri called on Muslims from Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Turkey to join the Syrian uprising, which began in March 2011 with mass protests inspired by the Arab Spring, then grew into a bloody insurgency as the opposition took up arms to fight a fierce government crackdown.

Rebel fighters have launched increasingly deadly attacks on regime targets, and several suicide bombings that bear the hallmark of Al Qaeda in Iraq indicate extremists are joining the fray.

Activists say more than 14,000 people have been killed since the revolt began. Syria severely restricts the media in the country, making it difficult to gain a credible account of events on the ground.

An Al Qaeda-inspired group, the Al-Nusra front, has claimed responsibility for dozens of attacks across Syria. On Tuesday, the SITE monitoring group, which tracks militant chatter on the Internet, said the Al-Nusra Front released statements on extremist websites in late June saying the string of attacks were to avenge the killings of Syrians by the government.

Opposition activists and the rebel Free Syrian Army deny having any links to terrorism and say they do not have the desire or the capabilities to carry out massive suicide bombings and other Al Qaeda-style attacks. But dozens of rebel groups are operating in Syria with little or no coordination between them.

Military defections also have been on the rise.

The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights and other opposition websites said Thursday that Brig Gen Manaf Tlass - a member of the elite Republican Guards and a son of a former defense minister - reportedly had defected and fled to Turkey. If confirmed, the defection would be a major blow to Mr Assad.

Gen Tlass is a top Sunni general in a regime made up mostly of members of Mr Assad's Alawite sect and was once a close confidant of the President's.

The Observatory quoted "multiple sources" in Syria as saying that Gen Tlass had left Syria and was expected to formally announce his defection. Turkey did not immediately confirm the reports.

The violence already has drawn in Syria's neighbours.

The bodies of two Turkish pilots were recovered from the seabed yesterday after US ocean explorer Robert Ballard, best known for discovering the wreck of the Titanic, helped locate them nearly two weeks after their jet was shot down by Syria.

A Turkish official said Mr Ballard, aboard his deep-sea exploration vessel R/V Nautilus, found the bodies Wednesday nearly 16 kilometres off the Syrian coast after the Turkish navy had pinpointed the area. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to speak publicly. The June 22 incident fuelled tensions between the two neighbours and Turkey quickly deployed anti-aircraft missiles on the border.

The head of the country's UN observer mission said the violence in Syria has reached unprecedented levels, insisting a cease-fire is needed in order for his teams to resume their work.

About 300 UN monitors were sent to Syria to provide an unbiased look at the violence as part of a peace plan put forward by UN-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan, but a truce has failed to take hold and the observers have been confined to their hotels since June 15 because of the bloodshed.

"The escalation of violence, allow me to say, to an unprecedented level, obstructed our ability to observe, verify, report as well as assist in local dialogue," Norwegian Maj Gen Robert Mood told reporters in the Syrian capital Damascus.

He urged both sides of the conflict to have the "moral courage to break out of the cycle of violence" and engage in dialogue.

"The longer the violence goes on, with more civilians killed or trapped in the line of fire, the more difficult it will become to have a peaceful transition," he said.

Activists reported at least 26 people killed across Syria Thursday in clashes between troops and rebels and government shelling on suburbs of the capital Damascus, the central Homs region and rebel-held areas in northern and southern Syria.

More than 200,000 Syrians have so far fled the country overland, seeking refuge in Jordan, Lebanon and Turkey.

The President of Cyprus, Dimitris Christofias, said the island nation has drawn up contingency plans to receive a possible influx of evacuees from Syria if necessary.

Cyprus is only 105 kilometres west of Syria.

Russia, a main ally of the Syrian regime, said it was not considering offering asylum to Mr Assad. The statement came after respected Russian daily newspaper Kommersant quoted diplomatic sources on Wednesday as saying that Western nations are pushing Moscow to do so.

Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Russia has no such plans, and he insisted such an invitation would not make sense because "Syrians themselves need to find common ground".

Also yesterday, the secret-spilling group Wikileaks said it was in the process of publishing material from 2.4 million Syrian emails - many of which it said came from official government accounts.

WikiLeaks' Sarah Harrison told journalists in London that the emails reveal interactions between the Syrian government and Western companies, although she declined to go into much further detail.

Ms Harrison quoted WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange as saying that "the material is embarrassing to Syria, but it is also embarrassing to Syria's external opponents". AP

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