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Anger erupts in Vietnam over Monsanto products, Agent Orange kill & infected millions of people

lol you are desperately trying to escape from the schit you got yourself into. Dont you feel embarassed?

Your post, number #32, is there clearly for everyone with a brain to see what you were saying.

Clearly, you were saying in response to my post that “OK, we are whores in the 70s.”

not,

“OK, we were still under Maos time in the 70s.”

Your post #32 is clear for everyone to see. LOL you are so desperate to rat your way out. I will end our conversation here to stop you from further embarrassing yourself.

:lol: The embarrass one is you and you even stood to a new low by adding your own whore words into my context and pretend its mine and making up the assumption? :lol: You are such a embarrassment for all vietnamese to learn from. I pity you... Do you want to look back at my post #32 and see any "whore" word? :D
 
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:lol: The embarrass one is you and you even stood to a new low by adding your own whore words into my context and pretend its mine and making up the assumption? :lol: You are such a embarrassment for all vietnamese to learn from. I pity you... Do you want to look back at my post #32 and see any "whore" word? :D

The “whore” word was mentioned in my post that you quoted and were replying to. In that post you replied to, I asked, “does this mean that China also became a whore to the US and Japan from the 70s...?”

Your reply was, “Yes we are in the 70s....but you are now and we have passed that blah blah”.

The post is there for everyone with a brain to see. You clearly knew what I was asking and you clearly answered it in that context.

Stop embarrassing yourself and just move on. People will forget about this soon enough, don’t be losing sleep over this.:lol:

Bye:wave:
 
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The “whore” word was mentioned in my post that you quoted and were replying to. In that post you replied to, I asked, “does this mean that China also became a whore to the US and Japan from the 70s...?”

Your reply was, “Yes we are in the 70s....but you are now and we have passed that blah blah”.

The post is there for everyone with a brain to see. You clearly knew what I was asking and you clearly answered it in that context.

Stop embarrassing yourself and just move on. People will forget about this soon enough, don’t be losing sleep over this.:lol:

Bye:wave:

Lool dont know what you are both arguing about.

Facts is: china in the 70s under mao was a poor backward isolated country(a big version of north korea), so she sought U.S help to counter the U.S.S.R who was china's main ennemy and greatest threat at the time. So China obviously needed a bigger power(U.S) to counter a big power(U.S.S.R) since alone it didnt stand a chance of defeating/countering Soviey Russia So it had to partner/cooperate with the U.S. Some will call it whoring or being a lapdog(as China invaded vietnam in 1979 after consulting the U.S for its blessing/approval), me i call it self interest (looking after your intetests by all means ) not whoring.

Its same situation Vietnam is in today. Vietnam is just doing what china did before, i.e protecting its interests by all means, and that means partnering with a bigger power to counter a big power. Old trick in the book. Nothing surprising about that.

Dont mind SOME chinese on here. They themselves know they did the same thing in the past when they were weak/poor, just that now that they are stronger , they can deny that they ever did the same thing vietnam is now doing.lool
Moreover, yes they know Vietnam is nobody's lapdog. They are just trying to denigrate and troll you, since you are not friendly/allied to them. If Vietnam was friendly to them, then they will be singing your praise and saying how brave and independent you are like they do with Pakistan. Lol

So dont take it too seriously my man.:)
 
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Lool dont know what you are both arguing about.

Facts is: china in the 70s under mao was a poor backward isolated country(a big versiom of north korea), so she sought U.S help to counter the U.S.S.R who was chinas main ennemy and greatest threat at the time. So China obviously needed a bigger power to counter a big power(U.S.S.R) it didnt stand a chance of defeating/countering. So it had to partner/cooperate with the U.S, some will call it whoring or beibg a lapdog(as China invaded vietnam in 1979 after consulting the U.S for its blessing/approval) me it call it self interest (looking after your intetests by all means ) not whoring. Its same situation Vietnam is in today, Vietnam is just doing what china did before, i.e pritecting its interests by all means, and that neans paetnering with a bigger power to counter a big power. Old trick in the book. Nothing surprising about that.

Dont mind SOME chinese on here. They themselves know they did the same thing in the past when they were weak, just that noiw that they are stronger , they can deny that they ever did the same thing vietnam is now doing, and yes they know Vietnam is nobody's lapdog, They are just trying to denigrate and troll you, since you are not friendly/allied to them.If Vieynam was friendly to them,then they will be singing your praise and saying how brave and independent you are like they do with Pakistan. Lol

So dont take it too seriously.:)
Yeah, true, what we r doing now is just like what CN did in 1979. But we dont surrender our territories to US-JP like CN surrendered TW-Senkaku to US-JP in order to get their investment.

We also dont let dirty & polluted US-JP factories to do whatever they want like and make 4 thousand VNese die by pollution everyday like in CN :pop:

I dont know excactly how many VNese die by Monsanto, but Im sure that the number will be less than dirty & polluted US-JP factories kill CNese in 10 years.
 
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Yeah, true, what we r doing now is just like what CN did in 1979. But we dont surrender our territories to US-JP like CN surrendered TW-Senkaku to US-JP in order to get their investment.

We also dont let dirty & polluted US-JP factories to do whatever they want like and make 4 thousand VNese die by pollution everyday like in CN :pop:

I dont know excactly how many VNese die by Monsanto, but Im sure that the number will be less than dirty & polluted US-JP factories kill CNese in 10 years.

Lool you always have your way of saying things. Always make me laugh with your comment my good friend.:lol:

Well, China did have an opportunity go retake Taiwan, if not for Stalin(promising to arm and equip the PLA) who pushed Mao to intervene in the Korean War, then i believe China could have won back Taiwan. However, the Korean War ruined everything, and made the U S be more focus/hostile towards China, hence leading to the U.S-Taiwan mutual defence treaty, which now meant that it was not a Chinese Civil war anymore,it now involved U.S intervention in case the PLA decided to ever invade the island nation. So China obviously being no match for the U.S navy stood no chance in case of any conflict over Taiwan, hence Mao had to be restrained. So here we are today with Taiwan still independent(due to Stalin and the Korean war). :enjoy:

By the way, Vietnam's situation is quite different, as you were fighting the U.S inland with Soviet Russia and China's massive assistance, if not for that, the U.S/south Vietnamese would have wiped out the VCP/vietcongs in a few weeks/months at best. Fighting an inland war with a big neighbour and another superpower by your side supporting and arming/equipping you is totally different from fighting a naval war which is something else altogether. Vietnams navy cant defeat our coast guards, forget about the U.S navy. :usflag::D
 
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Lool you always have your way of saying things. Always make me laugh with your comment my good friend.:lol:

Well, China did have an opportunity go retake Taiwan, if not for Stalin(promising to arm and equip the PLA) who pushed Mao to intervene in the Korean War then i believe Cjoba could have won back Taiwan. However, the Korean War ruined everything, and made the U S be more focus/histile to China, hence leading to the U.S-Taiwan mutual defence treaty, which now meant that it was not a chinese Civil war anymore,it now involved the U.S intervention in case the PLA decides to invade the island nation. So China obviously being no match for the U.S navy stood no chance in case of any conflict over Taiwan, hence mao had to be restrained. So here we are today with Taiwan still independent(due to Stalin and the Korean war). :enjoy:

By the war Vuetnams situation is different, as you were fighting the U.S inland with Soviet Russia and Chinas massive assistance, if nit for that the U.S/south Vietnam would have wiped iyt the VCP in a few weeks/months at best. Fighting a naval war is something else altogether. Vietnams navy cant defeat our coast guards, forget about the U.S navy. :usflag::D
4 pages of complete bullshit! we Asians+(india+ME)are craziest people on the earth :/
 
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4 pages of complete bullshit! we Asians+(india+ME)are craziest people on the earth :/
Loool thats exactly why i like Asian and middle eastern sections the most on here. Its really fun. :bunny::nana:

Our Europe/U.S section is quite boring to be honest. :(:lazy:
 
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Answer me this first, do you also consider your country to be a whore and a lapdog of Japan/US in the 70s/80s??? seems like you are agreeing with @Beast on this.o_O
LOL It was Henry Kissinger who visited us, suggested to their US congress, and then Kennedy visited us to make a short alliance to keep SU at bay. There was no lapdog involved as we didn't listen to the US but going after our interest. As soon as our interest no longer align, you see we break apart as easily as glass. For Vietnam, it is a different story. You seek and beg to be led by US's leadership in TPP and Asia military alliance. We never beg to join the US leadership but it is simply a partnership in 1970s. Understand the difference?

Your fellow told that to me, he didn't feel any shame ... :lol:
It's just like many young Chinese worship Western culture, it's a fact.
You can pretend that was not happen like your great AQ, LOL ....:partay:
Stop lying. If we follow and worship Western culture, we would have openly embrace Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube and all the craps the Western culture try to sell to you.
 
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LOL It was Henry Kissinger who visited us, suggested to their US congress, and then Kennedy visited us to make a short alliance to keep SU at bay.

You cannot officially visit another country unless you are welcomed. And that was my point in my previous post, China welcomed both the US and Japan.

Have you forgotten already that you were talking about who is “welcoming” who and laughed about that? not who is visiting who (although Deng did visit the US).


There was no lapdog involved as we didn't listen to the US but going after our interest. As soon as our interest no longer align, you see we break apart as easily as glass. For Vietnam, it is a different story. You seek and beg to be led by US's leadership in TPP and Asia military alliance. We never beg to join the US leadership but it is simply a partnership in 1970s. Understand the difference?

It that the difference? Then back up what you said with reliable source that Vietnam
“seek and beg to be led by US's leadership in TPP and Asia military alliance.”

TPP is a trade pact, there is no leadership in this pact, everything is agreed upon through a concensus. China also have various trade pact and agreements with the US too, are you saying China was begging US leadership in those trade agreement? And the US is not even the founding member of TPP.

As for begging for military alliance, back this up with reliable source (I’m pretty sure you can’t as you’re lying as usual). But you have said it, now back it up.

What is all this lapdog discussion...?

Just a few Chinese members who are butthurt that their country does not have many allies. So they go around jumping in all sorts of thread to call other countries “lapdogs” and tell lies just to make themselves feel a bit better.
 
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You cannot officially visit another country unless you are welcomed. And that was my point in my previous post, China welcomed both the US and Japan.

That's right you cannot visit a country when you're not welcomed. The Chinese in here do not understand the basic. They are trying to argue that U.S. begged China to "teach" Vietnam a lesson. Yeh U.S. thought China can really "teach" Vietnam a lesson but guess what the lesson is reversed. So, U.S. learnt another lesson that China can't do squat to Vietnam, so now they(U.S.) decided to support Vietnam to counter China instead because they realized China rise will threaten their super power position.

The Chibots never have any backup in what they said. Don't bother to ask them. They are trained to repeat their government propaganda.
 
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By the way, Vietnam's situation is quite different, as you were fighting the U.S inland with Soviet Russia and China's massive assistance, if not for that, the U.S/south Vietnamese would have wiped out the VCP/vietcongs in a few weeks/months at best. Fighting an inland war with a big neighbour and another superpower by your side supporting and arming/equipping you is totally different from fighting a naval war which is something else altogether. Vietnams navy cant defeat our coast guards, forget about the U.S navy. :usflag::D
U know VN also take back some big islands like Phu Quoc after 1975, right ??

From Phu Quoc island to VN land is abt 50 km. From TW to CN land is just abt 300km, still within the range of CN short ballistic missile . What CN need to do is just keep firing missile to TW until it (TW) surrender, no need any naval war wt USA around TW. But Mr.Deng did a Big mistake , he betrayed communist bloc , surrendered TW to USA to get US investment.

SO, what VN is doing now look like what CN did in 1979, but the different is that we beat US first and make friend wt him and call for his investment later while CN surrendered TW to US to exchange wt investment first

And bcz CN surrendered first to get US-JP investment, thats why dirty-polluted US-JP factories kill CNese far more than VNese died by Monsanto (4 thousand Cnese die by pollution every day). US-JP simply show No mercy to the surrender of CN:pop:
 
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You cannot officially visit another country unless you are welcomed. And that was my point in my previous post, China welcomed both the US and Japan.

Have you forgotten already that you were talking about who is “welcoming” who and laughed about that? not who is visiting who (although Deng did visit the US).




It that the difference? Then back up what you said with reliable source that Vietnam
“seek and beg to be led by US's leadership in TPP and Asia military alliance.”

TPP is a trade pact, there is no leadership in this pact, everything is agreed upon through a concensus. China also have various trade pact and agreements with the US too, are you saying China was begging US leadership in those trade agreement? And the US is not even the founding member of TPP.

As for begging for military alliance, back this up with reliable source (I’m pretty sure you can’t as you’re lying as usual). But you have said it, now back it up.
You need to go ask @NiceGuy whether you try to beg for TPP or not. TPP is nothing without the US. It is the US who write rule and demand certain condition for participants.
 
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You need to go ask @NiceGuy whether you try to beg for TPP or not. TPP is nothing without the US. It is the US who write rule and demand certain condition for participants.

As expected, you can’t provide any reliable sources. So NiceGuy is now your reliable source? lol.

And no, everyone has their own demands in TPP negotiation, hence its taking years to conclude and even some of your compatriots talking like it has failed. And according to your logic, is it also the US that wrote the rule and demand certain conditions for US-China trade agreements? Can you prove how other TPP countries are blindly giving in to US demands? The negotiation is confidential so how would you know? You are a joke.

And where is your reliable source that VN is begging the US for military alliance leadership? I’m still waiting for you to back up that claim.

Go be a cheerleader to the Chinese in your own thread and I won’t interfere. Talking with you always end up repeating the same pattern. You go around making one paragraph cheesy and superficial cheerleading comments on non-China related thread to make internet friends with the Chinese members. People then ask you to back up your claims, you then eventually ignore it and go cheerleading in other threads. Utterly waste of time talking with cheerleaders like you. At least the Chinese mainland members are much more interesting in giving their views.
 
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As expected, you can’t provide any reliable sources. So NiceGuy is now your reliable source? lol.

And no, everyone has their own demands in TPP negotiation, hence its taking years to conclude and even some of your compatriots talking like it has failed. And according to your logic, is it also the US that wrote the rule and demand certain conditions for US-China trade agreements? Can you prove how other TPP countries are blindly giving in to US demands? The negotiation is confidential so how would you know? You are a joke.

And where is your reliable source that VN is begging the US for military alliance leadership? I’m still waiting for you to back up that claim.

Go be a cheerleader to the Chinese in your own thread and I won’t interfere. Talking with you always end up repeating the same pattern. You go around making one paragraph cheesy and superficial cheerleading comments on non-China related thread to make internet friends with the Chinese members. People then ask you to back up your claims, you then eventually ignore it and go cheerleading in other threads. Utterly waste of time talking with cheerleaders like you. At least the Chinese mainland members are much more interesting in giving their views.
As my friend @NiceGuy will respond to you whether you want to be in TPP which everyone knows is the US's led and the top decision maker to make deal or not. It is depend on them. It was the US that had high demand on IP in biochemical and pharmaceutical that led to it being stall.

Also of all the country, Vietnam is the one who wants the TPP the most. It is also the US to decide whether Vietnam will be in it or not. You agree on conditions like improve human rights for them to even consider you.

For military alliance leadership, you have been begging for US to lift lethal weapons sanction. Am I right? LOL
 
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