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Ancient Peshawar's forgotten Wonder: The Greatest Stupa on Earth

Should Kanishka Stupa be built by the Pakistan Government?

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    Votes: 15 65.2%
  • No

    Votes: 8 34.8%

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There are Seven recognized Wonders of the World. Except Pyramids of Giza, no other has survived. Most of them have been declared "Wonders" based on drawings, paintings and mentions in historical sources.

The following video shows another Wonder that I believe deserves to be included in the list.

In 400 BC Gautama Buddha made a prophecy. According to that, 400 yrs after his death, a king named Kanishka will build a grand stupa in his honor. That stupa would the "greatest structure in the world" (of that time).

As prophesized, Kanishka did build an exceptionally beautiful and grand stupa in his empire's capital: Peshawar.

That stupa was about 200 meters high. For perspective, Eiffel Tower is about 324 meter, and Minar-e-Pakistan is about 62 meter high. The details of its majestic grandeur is in the video.



 
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Name of the documentary will cause heart Burn to many ;)

We should probably change Pakistan's name to Indusland. ;)

On topic, we should preserve what remains, but it probably makes no sense to rebuild. The rebuilt structure would have new materials and nothing in common with the ancient landmark. It would have no legitimacy as anything historical.
 
India is a subcontinent; a geographical region. Just like Africa and Europe. So no it doesn't cause burn.

But it may burn some that the first civilization of India started in Indus Valley (Pakistan). Cheers :no:

If India is like Africa and Europe then Asia must be some planet like earth or mars. ;)
 
India is a subcontinent; a geographical region. Just like Africa and Europe. So no it doesn't cause burn.

But it may burn some that the first civilization of India started in Indus Valley (Pakistan). Cheers :no:

WE Are absolutely fine indus valley being the cradle of our civilization! but some member will burn in anger with the name of docu for sure !
 
It is not permitted for Muslims to allow the reconstruction of a kaafir site.

Imagine if the pagans of Arabia were to rise today and say to Muslims: "This Kaaba has historically belonged to us . Our religion doesn't permit the construction of Muslim Kaaba here"

How would you like it then Mr Fanatic? How would you like if US and European governments decide to raze all Muslim mosques citing sources from their scriptures?
 
We should probably change Pakistan's name to Indusland. ;)

On topic, we should preserve what remains, but it probably makes no sense to rebuild. The rebuilt structure would have new materials and nothing in common with the ancient landmark. It would have no legitimacy as anything historical.

Or, we can keep it what it is, and add a second name recognized in our constitution.

i think it should

Indonesia is world largest Muslim country ,how they are preserving their heritage and culture ,rest of world must learn from them

Thank you for this. The preservation quality is truly remarkable.
 
If India is like Africa and Europe then Asia must be some planet like earth or mars. ;)
India is like America. There is a geographical region called america and there is a country with the same informal name.
 
It is not permitted for Muslims to allow the reconstruction of a kaafir site.

al-Bukhaari (3020) and Muslim (2476) narrated that Jareer ibn ‘Abd-Allaah al-Bajali said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to me: “O Jareer, will you not relieve me of Dhu’l-Khalsah?” That was a house (in Yemen) belonging to the (tribe of) Khath’am, which was called Ka’bat al-Yamaaniyyah. I set out with one hundred and fifty horsemen. I used not to sit firm on horses and I mentioned that to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He struck me on my chest with his hand and said, 'O Allaah! Make him firm and make him one who guides others and is guided on the right path.' " So Jareer went and burned it with fire, then Jareer sent a man called Abu Artaat to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He said, “I did not come to you until we had left it like a scabby camel.” Then the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) blessed the horses of (the tribe of) Ahmas and their men five times.

Al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar said:

This hadeeth indicates that it is prescribed to remove things that may tempt or confuse the people, whether they are buildings, people, animals or inanimate objects.

If it is asked, how come the Sahaabah left alone the ancient idols of the Pharaohs and Phoenicians? The answer is that these idols fall into one of three categories:

1 – These idols may have been in remote places that the Sahaabah did not reach; when the Sahaabah conquered Egypt, for example, that does not mean that they reached every part of the land.

2 – These idols may not have been visible, rather they may have been inside Pharaonic buildings etc. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us to hasten when passing through the abodes of the wrongdoers and those who had been punished, and he forbade entering such places. In al-Saheehayn it is says: “Do not enter upon those who have been punished unless you are weeping, lest there befall you something like that which befall them.” He (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said that when he passed by ashaab al-hijr [the dwellers of the rocky tract – see al-Hijr 15:80], in the land of Thamood, the people of Saalih (peace be upon him).

According to another report narrated in al-Saheehayn, “If you are not weeping, then do not enter upon them, lest there befall you something like that which befall them.”

What we think is that if the companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw a temple or building belonging of these people, they did not enter it or even look at what was inside it.

This will dispel any confusion about why the Sahaabah did not see the Pyramids or what is inside them. There is also the possibility that their doors and entrances were covered with sand at that time.

3 – Many of these idols that are visible nowadays were covered and hidden, and have only been discovered recently, or they have been brought from remote places that the companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not reach.

Al-Zarkali was asked about the Pyramids and the Sphinx etc: Did the Sahaabah who entered Egypt see them?

He said: They were mostly covered with sand, especially the Sphinx.

Shibh Jazeerat al-‘Arab, 4/1188

Then even if we assume that there was a statue that was visible and not hidden, then we still have to prove that the Sahaabah saw it and were able to destroy it.

The fact of the matter is that the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) would not have been able to destroy some of these statues. It took twenty days to destroy some of these statues even with tools, equipment, and explosives etc that were not available to the Sahaabah at all.

This is indicated by what Ibn Khuldoon said in al-Muqaddimah (p. 383), that the caliph al-Rasheed was unable to destroy the estrade of Chosroes. He started to do that, and he gathered men and tools, and burned it with fire, and poured vinegar on it, but he was unable to do it. And the caliph al-Ma’moon wanted to destroy the Pyramids in Egypt and he gathered workers but he could not do it.

With regard to the excuse that these statues are part of the legacy of mankind, no attention should be paid to such words. Al-Laat, al-‘Uzaa, Hubal, Manaat and other idols were also a legacy for those who worshipped them among Quraysh and the Arabs.

This is a legacy, but it is a haraam legacy which should be uprooted. When the command comes from Allaah and His Messenger, then the believer must hasten to obey, and the command of Allaah and His Messenger cannot be rejected on the grounds of this flimsy excuse. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“The only saying of the faithful believers, when they are called to Allaah (His Words, the Qur’aan) and His Messenger, to judge between them, is that they say: “We hear and we obey.” And such are the successful (who will live forever in Paradise)”

[al-Noor 24:51]

We ask Allaah to help the Muslims to do that which He loves and which pleased Him.

Obligation to destroy idols
- islamqa.info
So the sands saved the Pyramids. :tup: Thanks to the Sands of Time. :enjoy:
What do you think should happen to them? Also the monuments in Pakistan now?
 
i think it should

Indonesia is world largest Muslim country ,how they are preserving their heritage and culture ,rest of world must learn from them

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But Pakistan is not Indonesia to preserve their Hindu history. This one is about a 'not-Hindu' Buddhist Stupa that's why some Pakistani seems interested.

India is like America. There is a geographical region called america and there is a country with the same informal name.

India is a historical country in the continent of Asia. Asia don't have alternate name of India. ;)
 

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