Ancestry- The Syed Lineage

[Agnihotra]

Inter-breeding does not save you from anything.

Its what happens when your people tip over the edge of being safe.

Dude

Cheers, Doc



I mentioned them in my previous post.

Cheers, Doc

my bad,

i see new Abrahemic religions as a rebellion against traditional jewish teachings by their own people.

look at Jesus, a jew who claimed that he is the last mesiha of the jewish people and this people must accept him as such, but jews rejected him, thus his earliest followers/believers (who were mostly jews themselves) reformed his teachings and turned it into a new independent religion from a sect of Judaism.

same with Muhammad, some sources claims that his original tribe was a Jewish, thus to become a wellknown reformer he destroyed his tribes pagan gods and again started worshiping Jewish god Yeahwah/Allah, but still jews rejected him like they rejected christ thus angered by this rejection he changed most of basic islamic practices such as praying towards Jerusalem to his own city mecca.

"you wont accept me as your savior ? screw you i will become something bigger than what you are.", basically a middle finger to the Pure/Elite bloodlines by their own people. we see same pattern in many other civilizations.

ex. Jews > Christianity and Islam,
Brahminism/Vedism > Buddhism, Puranic Hinduism, Jainism
Zoroastrianism > Mazdaki reforms etc.

all these original teaching were given to the pure bloodlines by their gods while reforms were adopted by people who are/were not from these Bloodlines.

i enjoy discussing religion when i am at my comfort. noting provides relief like a bottle of Old monk and bunch of munching to a Student.

No jews are sons of Israel (jaqob) Peace Be upon him. Through second born son of abraham peace be upon him. Named Isac peace be upon him

Mohammad Peace be upon him is from first born son of Abrahan peace be upon him named Ishmael peace be upon him. This makes Mohammad peace be upin him and Me cousins of Jews.

Moahmmad peace be upon him and I are not jews but we do have same father Abraham peace be upona him but different mothers.

All humans are equal. No one is superior be it syeds, jews banu hashim , chinese american russian indian.

No one is superior all are created equal. Syed or not. They Syeds and jews get my respect because they have blood relation to the prophets of God Almighty.

thanks for the detailed answer, are you a sayyid by chance or quaraish ?

 

[padamchen]

my bad,

i see new Abrahemic religions as a rebellion against traditional jewish teachings by their own people.

look at Jesus, a jew who claimed that he is the last mesiha of the jewish people and this people must accept him as such, but jews rejected him, thus his earliest followers/believers (who were mostly jews themselves) reformed his teachings and turned it into a new independent religion from a sect of Judaism.

same with Muhammad, some sources claims that his original tribe was a Jewish, thus to become a wellknown reformer he destroyed his tribes pagan gods and again started worshiping Jewish god Yeahwah/Allah, but still jews rejected him like they rejected christ thus angered by this rejection he changed most of basic islamic practices such as praying towards Jerusalem to his own city mecca.

"you wont accept me as your savior ? screw you i will become something bigger than what you are.", basically a middle finger to the Pure/Elite bloodlines by their own people. we see same pattern in many other civilizations.

ex. Jews > Christianity and Islam,
Brahminism/Vedism > Buddhism, Puranic Hinduism, Jainism
Zoroastrianism > Mazdaki reforms etc.

i enjoy discussing religion when i am at my comfort. noting provides relief like a bottle of Old monk and bunch of munching to a Student.


thanks for the detailed answer, are you a sayyid by chance or quaraish ?

Zoroastrianism (Mazdayasniism) in itself is reformed Mithraism.

Some would say refined. Evolved.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Agnihotra]

Zoroastrianism in itself is reformed Mithraism.

Cheers, Doc

what i am saying is, all these original teaching were given to the pure bloodlines by their gods while reforms were adopted by people who are/were not from these Bloodlines.

btw how close Mithraism is to the Zoroastrianism ? in Vedic Religion, Mitra is a minor god while Varuna was a" former Indra" if Indo-IRanian conncetion is real than i believe Ahuramazda was a Supreme god among Iranic people as well while Mithra was a minor god.

 

[padamchen]

what i am saying is, all these original teaching were given to the pure bloodlines by their gods while reforms were adopted by people who are/were not from these Bloodlines.

btw how close Mithraism is to the Zoroastrianism ? in Vedic Religion, Mitra is a minor god while Varuna was a" former Indra" if Indo-IRanian conncetion is real than i believe Ahuramazda was a Supreme god among Iranic people as well while Mithra was a minor god.

How close is Puranic Hinduism to Vedic Hinduism.

Zoroastrianism is Mithraism with the hieerrarchy of Gods codified.

Where Ahura Mazda is THE God.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Agnihotra]

How close is Puranic Hinduism to Vedic Hinduism.

Zoroastrianism is Mithraism with the hieerrarchy of Gods codified.

Where Ahura Mazda is THE God.

Cheers, Doc

radically different.

is Ahuram mazda is the god than what other gods are ?

 

[padamchen]

radically different.

is Ahuram mazda is the god than what other gods are ?

Helpers.

Representatives.

And Ahriman (Angrayi Mainyu) gets demoted from an equal evil flip side to a maelovoent force.

Cheers, Doc

 

[THE GREEN MAN]

Its not about arrogance or pride my brother. It's about preserving the family bloodline . I mean yiu cannot force someone to marry his daughter or boy to a specific tribe etc.

Rest I agree with you that the onl thing that elevate the man's stature in Gods eye is his piety and devotion .


And don't pay heed to this dajjal guy he has an agenda to pitch Syeds vs Muslims and don't know anything substantial either.

@waz @dubous @Zaki plz close this thread.

Excuse me?
What do you mean by an Agenda to pitch Syed Vs Muslims?
Syed are Muslims
And Non Muslims have taken up the thread and I see no fighting amongst Muslims. Everyone's rational enough to not get riled up by this, and I have no intention for it too