Anatolians only have 7% genes from Central Asia, we are "Greek" Muslims

[chinasun]

The Turkish history textbook says, "our great ancestors forced the great Chinese people to build the great Great Wall."
Turkey has no history, so it makes it up.

 

[Attila the Hun]

The Turkish history textbook says, "our great ancestors forced the great Chinese people to build the great Great Wall."
Turkey has no history, so it makes it up.

Jealous much?

 

[Foinikas]

Read the thread, it's not hard. Turks are natives to the region. Mixed with Turks from Central Asia. How is that hard for the Chinese to understand ?

Personally I don't consider Turks as natives to the region,if you're talking about Anatolia. But I agree with you about the Chinese. They have some weird fixation on Turkish origins.

 

[MH.Yang]

Jealous much?

But the Chinese have repaired the Great Wall three times. The Chinese built the Great Wall first to defend the Guifang people(鬼方), and later to defend the Huns(匈奴) and Mongolia(蒙古). The Chinese building the Great Wall has nothing to do with the Tujue. And the Tujue have nothing to do with the Turks. Tujue are just a second rate nomadic tribe. During the Tang Dynasty, the emperor ruled the grassland and never built the Great Wall.

Unlike western history, Chinese history is not confused with mythology. Moreover, the Chinese have a tradition of recording history and a large number of professional officials in any dynasty. China's historical records have never been interruption, and there are a large number of historical books that can prove each other. Even Chinese culture is not interruptioning. Modern Chinese people can read ancient documents.

Because they can understand ancient documents, almost every Chinese has rich historical knowledge. So, isn't it embarrassing for the Turks to lie with their historical knowledge in front of the Chinese?

 

[dani92]

pink panturkism has always been laughable to everyone except the most simple minded, brainwashed pink panturk in Turkey.

whats also funny is that they love to be associated with turks, but take great offense if you attribute them to actual turks.. for example real turks have a mongloid look..... but calling a turk a mongloid is like calling a black man the N word...

they are utterly confused, delusional, and live in a fantasy. they are a mix of greek, Iranian, european, arab. with probably a little mongloid turk in there.

This is more then confirmed by both DNA, and historical records of what empires controlled that land in history.

the ideology of pink panturkism is one of the most laughable ideologies that exist on earth today.

this says everything

 

[Attila the Hun]

Personally I don't consider Turks as natives to the region,if you're talking about Anatolia. But I agree with you about the Chinese. They have some weird fixation on Turkish origins.

Any reason why? I think most can see and work out Turks are native population of Anatolia. Rather than non-natives that settled in the region.

But the Chinese have repaired the Great Wall three times. The Chinese built the Great Wall first to defend the Guifang people(鬼方), and later to defend the Huns(匈奴) and Mongolia(蒙古). The Chinese building the Great Wall has nothing to do with the Tujue. And the Tujue have nothing to do with the Turks. Tujue are just a second rate nomadic tribe. During the Tang Dynasty, the emperor ruled the grassland and never built the Great Wall.

Unlike western history, Chinese history is not confused with mythology. Moreover, the Chinese have a tradition of recording history and a large number of professional officials in any dynasty. China's historical records have never been interruption, and there are a large number of historical books that can prove each other. Even Chinese culture is not interruptioning. Modern Chinese people can read ancient documents.

Because they can understand ancient documents, almost every Chinese has rich historical knowledge. So, isn't it embarrassing for the Turks to lie with their historical knowledge in front of the Chinese?

What the f*** is a Tujue?

 

[MH.Yang]

Any reason why? I think most can see and work out Turks are native population of Anatolia. Rather than non-natives that settled in the region.

What the f*** is a Tujue?

Tujue=突厥,
The Tujue established the Seljuk empire.

 

[Attila the Hun]

My point remains, Greek Muslims (converted to Islam and got called "Turks") are as purer than most Caucasians in the world.

Very very small amount "Greek Muslims" got called Turks though.

Turks are not native to the region. The "Turks" in Turkey are mostly Caucasian natives (Northern Semites, Grecco-Armenians, Georgians, Hattians, Grecco-Romans, etc).

Greco-Armenians and Greco-Romans Very small if any became "Turk"

These groups are Anatolians natives and are pure Caucasians. Non-Caucasians = Turks.

Not sure anyone disagrees with that.

 

[khansaheeb]

Celal Şengor, a professor from Turkey, made another hit against the mythology of a majority-Turkish admixture in the genetic make up Turkish-citizens, particularly those from Anatolia.

Speaking on television, the professor said that the genes of Anatolian peoples is made up of only 7% from Central Asia, the homeland of Turkic tribes.

However, the bigger surprise is what came next.

“A relevant DNA research was done in Anatolia and it turned out that we are very much Indo-Europeans,” the professor said.

“Do not forget that we are the heirs of Byzantium,” the professor continued, adding: “And because of this there were many marriages during the Ottoman period. That is why we are Muslim Rûm.”

Rûm is a derivative of the term Rhomaioi-East Roman (Ῥωμαῖοι) and is used in many Islamic countries to refer to Greeks.

Rûm is found in the pre-Islamic Namara inscription and later in the Quran (7th century), where it is used to refer to the contemporary Byzantine (Eastern Roman) Empire under its Greek-speaking emperors of the Heraclian dynasty.

Turkey calls its Greek minority Rûm, such as those living in Constantinople, Tenedos and Imvros, and refers to Greeks within Greece as Yunani (Ionian).

In this way, they differentiate the Greeks of Greece and the Greeks of Turkey.

In response to Şengor’s television segment, Turkey-born Professor Mehmet Efe Caman, who describes himself on Twitter as an “Anatolian from Constantinople with roots in Crete and Paphlagonia [on the Black Sea],” said:

“Professor Şengör says that: ‘We are Roman’ because he cannot say that today’s Turkophone Anatolians are Islamized and linguistically assimilated Greeks. Turkish-supremacist racism will collapse.

“I had the Central Asian Gene at 8.2%. It is still above the number mentioned by Professor Şengör and Murat Bardakçı.

“Joking aside, it is impossible to understand why the Turkish state has taught children the Turkish-supremacist and racist myth of ‘mass migration from Central Asia to Anatolia’ in schools for 100 years.

“Why did the Turkish state want to hide that the Anatolian people largely had Greco-Roman roots? What was the reason for this secret? Why were they afraid?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1410027794055245828

“Why did they carefully conceal the Greek origin of the large Turkish-speaking masses who were Islamized and due to linguistic assimilation?”, the professor pondered.

It is recalled that earlier this month the Turkish DNA Project, a misinformation portal known for posting genetic graphs and charts without references or sources, expressed frustration with Ancestry.com, the largest for-profit genealogy company in the world.

The misinformation project called for “all Turks to boycott this company: Ancestry.”

“AncestryDNA prioritizes to demonize the Turkish people and delegitimaze their presence in Turkey rather than giving information about the genetic structure of the relevant population,” they said in a now deleted Twitter post.

Ancestry.com highlighted that after the Ottoman conquest of Pontos in today’s Turkey’s southeastern Black Sea coast, the “Pontian Greeks adopted Turkish language and culture, and many converted to Islam in order to have greater opportunities in Turkish society.”

Ancestry.com also highlighted that another round of Turkification of Pontian Greeks occurred after the second Russo-Turkish War (1828-29).

With the advent of genetic testing, more and more Turkish citizens and diaspora communities are discovering that they are actually Turkified peoples, mostly pointing towards Greek.

Ancestry.com highlighted that after the Ottoman conquest of Pontos in today’s Turkey’s southeastern Black Sea coast, the “Pontian Greeks adopted Turkish language and culture, and many converted to Islam in order to have greater opportunities in Turkish society.”

Ancestry.com also highlighted that another round of Turkification of Pontian Greeks occurred after the second Russo-Turkish War (1828-29).

With the advent of genetic testing, more and more Turkish citizens and diaspora communities are discovering that they are actually Turkified peoples, mostly pointing towards Greek.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1399345295381630978

Professor Celal Şengor: Anatolians Only Have 7% Genes From Central Asia, We Are Rûm (Greek) Muslims

Celal Şengor, a professor from Turkey, made another hit against the mythology of a majority-Turkish admixture in the genetic make up Turkish-citizens,

greekcitytimes.com

Turkish DNA Project Calls For Boycott After Ancestry.com Highlights Many Greeks Were Turkified

UPDATE: Since publication of this article, the Turkish DNA Project deleted their tweet.

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Turks-Greeks Bhai bhai.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Turks-Greeks Bhai bhai.

We're bhai bhai same as Pakistani-India is bhai bhai.

 

[Beast]

Turkish is definitely from east to west.

 

[Foinikas]

Any reason why? I think most can see and work out Turks are native population of Anatolia. Rather than non-natives that settled in the region.

But that's the thing man,they are non-natives who settled in the region after 1071. They slowly started taking more lands,then slowly taking more and more of Anatolia,then getting on the European side,Balkans,Egypt,Arabian peninsula etc.

What the f*** is a Tujue?

Lol he kept saying it in previous posts and I thought YOU knew what he was talking about. I was like "wtf is that? Is that a typo? No it can't be. It has to be a dynasty or people"

 

[Attila the Hun]

But that's the thing man,they are non-natives who settled in the region after 1071. They slowly started taking more lands,then slowly taking more and more of Anatolia,then getting on the European side,Balkans,Egypt,Arabian peninsula etc.

Yes, that part we all know. But, what happened to the natives?? they all joined with the Turks .. and thus called Turks ever since.
They were all natives that became "Turks" at the start for sure. but over time less so. That's only way I can put into words.

 

[Beast]

Actually during Tang dynasty, li shimin emperor of Tang had turkic lineage. He called all Chinese as Tang but not Han. So as to make all people who sinicized as legal citizen of Tang. Anyone who accepted Chinese culture and practice it, is Chinese.

 

[AViet]

First Turkic people were purely East Asian, with very little percentage of Western Eurasian genes, if any. Probably they looked like modern Tuvan or Yakut.

Uighur, Kyrgyz and Kazakh all were mixed at different level by Turkic tribes who came later from the East with Tocharian / Iranian tribes who were natives in Xinjiang and Central Asia and henceforth, turkified them

Therefore, Turks cannot be native in Anatolia, if native means at least 2000 - 2500 years ago.

I followed the discussion in some Turkish forums long time ago and never seen any Turkish who claimed they were from China, however, it is so ironical that modern Turkey claim histories of Turkic empires in China/Mongolia as their own.

From my point of view, modern Turkish people are basically European who were / are Turkified with very little East Asian genes, if any. Have watched a documentary about some Bosniak who lived in Turkey since 19th century and now their descendants cannot speak Bosnian. They will be totally turkified within 2 more generations. That would be funny if these Slavic-turned-Turks claims Gorturk empire in Mongolia / China as their ancestor

In summary, Turkey have nothing to do with Turkic empires in ancient China / Mongolia and most of Central Asia.