Analyzing North Waziristan

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Senator: Pakistan army may go to North Waziristan


The Associated Press
Sunday, January 10, 2010; 11:13 AM


WASHINGTON -- A senator who's just visited Pakistan says Pakistan's military may be considering a move into the militant stronghold of North Waziristan.

Sen. Joe Lieberman says the Pakistani army is on the move and there's a possibility the U.S. will see activity in that volatile northern region.

Lieberman, an independent from Connecticut, and Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain recently met with Pakistan's military chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani.

Pakistani leaders have said they will send the military into any area where they feel the government's authority is challenged. They have not specifically outlined any future operations.

Lieberman appeared on CNN's "State of the Union."

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[BATMAN]

And what about helis trips which start evacutating TTP leaders just before the operation? last itme those helis belonged to Britan!!!

 

[nawazshahzad]

Pakistan’s army has said it will launch no new offensives on militants in 2010, as the US defence secretary arrived for talks on combating Taliban fighters. Army spokesman Athar Abbas told the BBC the “overstretched” military had no plans for any fresh anti-militant operations over the next 12 months. Our correspondent says the comments are a clear snub to Washington.

The US would like Pakistan to expand an offensive against militants launching cross-border attacks in Afghanistan. Defence Secretary Robert Gates arrived in Pakistan on Thursday for his first visit since US President Barack Obama took office last year.

The one-day trip comes at a crucial time in the fight against al-Qaeda and the Taliban, with the US planning to commit 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan. Mr Gates was expected to tell Pakistan that it could do more against top Taliban leaders operating in its territory, some of whom are alleged to have close links to Pakistan’s ISI intelligence service.

The Pakistani army launched major ground offensives in 2009 in the north-west against Pakistani Taliban strongholds in the Swat region, last April, and in South Waziristan, last October. The militants have hit back with a wave of suicide bombings and attacks that have killed hundreds of people across Pakistan. In the capital, Islamabad, on Thursday, Maj Gen Abbas, head of public relations for the Pakistan army, told the BBC: “We are not going to conduct any major new operations against the militants over the next 12 months.

“The Pakistan army is overstretched and it is not in a position to open any new fronts. Obviously, we will continue our present operations in Waziristan and Swat.”

‘Trust deficit’

The BBC’s Syed Shoaib Hasan in Islamabad says the comments are a clear brush-off to top US officials. Our correspondent adds they are embarrassing for Pakistan’s shaky coalition government, and likely to further destabilise already-low ties with its US ally.

He says it also threatens to render ineffective an expanded coalition troop deployment in Afghanistan, as the Taliban over the border would be relieved of any pressure from the Pakistan army. Before arriving in Islamabad, Mr Gates told reporters travelling with him from India: “You can’t ignore one part of this cancer and pretend that it won’t have some impact closer to home.”

His visit comes amidst a slight cooling in relations between the two allies. In an article published in a Pakistani newspaper on Thursday, Mr Gates referred to a “trust deficit”.

As well as talking with his counterpart, Ahmed Mukhtar, the US defence secretary is expected to meet Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and President Asif Zardari. Talks were also expected to focus on US drone strikes against militants near the Afghan border. Hundreds of people have died in the attacks, which have stoked deep resentment of the US among many Pakistanis. But he adds that Mr Gates will argue that drone strikes are the only effective measure against the Taliban. Pakistan has been an important US partner in South Asia since the 11 September 2001 attacks in the US.

Source: Pakistan Ideology

Nawaz

 

[revu]

I just read a running text on my TV, It says "6 US spy's killed by taliban in Pakistan" was this news true or not?

 

[seekers]

PESHAWAR: Taliban militants killed seven tribesmen in the North Waziristan tribal region on the Afghan border who they suspected of spying for the United States, security officials said on Sunday.

Militants have killed a large number of tribal elders, government officials and Afghan nationals on suspicions of spying in Waziristan.

The bullet-riddled bodies of five tribesmen were dumped on a roadside in a village 35 km south of North Waziristan's main town of Miramshah, the officials said.

“All of them appeared to have been killed last night and a hand-written note was lying near these bodies saying they were American spies,” a security official in Miramshah said by telephone.

“Whosoever spied for America will face the same fate,” another security official quoted the note as saying. Two other bodies were found elsewhere in the region with a similar note from the Taliban.

North Waziristan straddles Afghanistan's southeastern Khost province where a Jordanian double-agent, Humam Khalil Abu Mulal al-Balawi, killed seven CIA employees in a suicide bombing inside US Forward Operation Base Chapman on December 30.

The Taliban later issued a farewell video that showed the bomber sitting beside
Pakistani Taliban chief Hakimullah Mehsud.

The United States has stepped up its attacks by pilotless drones in North and South Waziristan since the Khost bombing.

A US missile strike on January 14 in South Waziristan aimed at Mehsud killed a dozen militants. The Taliban said he was wounded.

The army launched an offensive against Mehsud's fighters in South Waziristan in mid-October and has captured most of their bases.

The United States praised Pakistan's military campaign but wants it to eliminate Afghan militants who cross the border from their Pakistani tribal sanctuaries to fight Western forces.

North Waziristan is a major sanctuary for the Afghan Taliban.

The army has ruled out any new offensive for up to a year, saying it had to consolidate its gains in South Waziristan.

DAWN.COM | Pakistan | Taliban kill seven ?US spies? in North Waziristan

 

[Awesome]

The Taliban usually kill off innocent pro-Pakistani people labeling them as US spies for their PR purposes.

 

[S-2]

Asim,

I imagine that they get their fair share of agents if the reports are true out of Rawalpindi that the ISI lost upwards of 90 agents last year. Maybe ours too. I'm still uncertain whether our Jordanian doctor wasn't captured and coerced into his suicide-bomb op with threats to his family. Probably not but it's possible.

The taliban may also kill a fair share of their own by mistake. Torturing to generate confessions is amazingly effective...at generating confessions but not necessarily the truth. If so, and if their paranoia spurred by drones is sufficiently high, then they'll make mistakes.

Finally, your absolutely accurate that they would use accusations of spying to eliminate those perceived as political challenges to their local leadership.

This falls back to Ms. Farhat Taj's DAILY TIMES column about drones and Mr. Irfan Husain's "Howling At The Moon" column in DAWN. Both talk about the intimidation faced by civilians inside FATA from the taliban.

Thanks.

 

[Gazzi]

Its a shame if they were killed and were spies, could have assisted us further in elimating the TTP.

Then again, who knows, they could be Pro-Pakistan supporters and TTP decided to get rid.

 

[revu]

The Taliban usually kill off innocent pro-Pakistani people labeling them as US spies for their PR purposes.

Did their PR working?
If they killed pakistan people, innocent or not. didn't it will make their position more worst, cuz it will only provoke pakistan army to fight against them harder, n isn't that what us want from pakistan.

 

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Bomb kills 3 children in NW Pakistan, say police
PAKISTAN - 27 JANUARY 2010

PESHAWAR, Pakistan – A bomb planted near a house in northwestern Pakistan exploded Wednesday after children playing nearby tried to open it, killing three of them, said police.

The blast partly destroyed the house in Nanger Khani village in Upper Dir, an area near Pakistan's volatile Afghan border, said police official Gul Zameen Khan. Police are investigating why the bomb was placed there, he said.

Pakistan has been plagued by rising violence from a Taliban-led insurgency that has declared war on the government. Many of the militants are concentrated in the country's northwest, but violence has spread to many other areas of the country in the past couple years.

Thirteen police and civilian explosives experts were wounded Wednesday when a homemade bomb they were trying to defuse in Pakistan-controlled Kashmir detonated, said police official Iftikhar Kiani. The explosives were hidden in a milk container planted on a road leading to a military base, he said.

Two of the wounded men were transferred to the garrison town of Rawalpindi outside the capital, Islamabad, because of the serious nature of their injuries, said Kiani.


Source: AP

 

[PlanetWarrior]

******** animals. Killing children and planting bombs in milk containers. When caught they should have bombs planted up their rears with timers set to detonate after a good few minutes so they may listen to the tick tock of their forthcoming ending. I pray that the victims will rest in peace

 

[karan.1970]

Frigg ing hell man.. How do these guys live with themselves..

 

[lyns]

They will say this life is only a test. And the childer will be greatfull they died this way, they are guaranteed heaven because of there age.

 

[Ahmad]

******** animals. Killing children and planting bombs in milk containers.

dont be surprised, they do/have done similar things in Afghanistan everyday.

 

[wjcking]

un f-u-c-k-ing believable.. only beasts done such things like that!!! , I am really shocked by the information you posted