What's new

Analysts: India won't ink a single-engine fighter deal before 2019

ashok321

ELITE MEMBER
Joined
Nov 1, 2010
Messages
17,942
Reaction score
4
Country
Canada
Location
Malaysia
Analysts: India won't ink a single-engine fighter deal before 2019

tem5r4re34.png

Analysts: India won't ink a single-engine fighter deal before 2019

NEW DELHI — India's single-engine fighter program, worth $12 billion, is unlikely to be "decided before 2019," analysts and officials say, even as the Indian Air Force has decided to hold flight tests of Lockheed's F-16 Block 70 and Sweden's Gripen-E, the two aircraft competing in the program.

Restricted expressions of interests were sent through Indian embassies to "some overseas participants" to take part in the program in October last year to elicit responses to produce single-engine fighter aircraft in India. Lockheed Martin offered to shift the assembly line of its F-16 Block 70, and Sweden offered to build the Gripen-E aircraft in India with technology transfer.

The F-16 fighter aircraft did not come up for discussion during last month's summit talks on June 26 between Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and U.S. President Donald Trump in Washington, said a Ministry of Defence official without commenting on the outcome of the talks.

However, analysts and officials are skeptical whether the program would come to an early decision. Some analysts even say the F-16 will never be bought by the Indian Air Force, or IAF.



"There isn't now even the slightest IAF interest in the F-16 Block 70 or any other variant," said Bharat Karnad, professor of national security studies at Centre for Policy Research.

When asked about the outcome of the flight trials the IAF will conduct, Karnad said, "Nothing, it will take time and delay any decision to beyond the 2019 election. Thereafter, the medium multirole combat aircraft, or MMRCA, metrics will still apply, and the F-16 will be rejected."

The F-16 and Gripen were both rejected after flight trials during the 2007 MMRCA tender, which was finally scrapped in 2014, leading to the outright purchase of France's Rafale fighter aircraft worth $8.8 billion that was inked last year.

An IAF official said that this time, only limited flight trials of the F-16 and Gripen will take place, which will be restricted to the upgraded components that were not in the 2007 MMRCA tender.



Daljit Singh, a retired IAF air marshal and defense analyst said, "The F-16 and Gripen fielded during the MMRCA selection did not have all the systems that the IAF would look for in single-engine fighters. AESA radars and EW systems have recently been integrated on the F-16 Block 70 and Gripen E, and they would be required to be evaluated."

"The time for evaluation would be lesser than the previous evaluation, as only two fighters would be evaluated, and the majority of the capabilities have already been tested," Singh added.

However, analysts and officials are unanimous in their view that no decision on the program is likely immediately. In addition, the program is to be built in a newly announced Strategic Partners policy, which was notified in June.

"The chances of seeing any program under this SP program in the near future are slim til the MoD sorts out key issues relating to IP, especially under an unfavorable 49 percent ownership limit for foreign vendors," said Pushan Das, a defense analyst with Observer Research Foundation.

Another IAF official said, "There could be delays based on IAF asking for more and thereby delays due to integration testing, etc."

"In my opinion, in the current scenario with home-grown light combat aircraft, or LCA, getting produced and with LCA Mark-1A and an order of 83 cleared by the government already, I do not foresee an immediate decision on any other single-engine fighter aircraft soon," the IAF official added.
 
.
ADA should test an Mk2 prototype using this delay by 2018. In Indian standards, shortly means few years. If it means, delay, god knows which generation. :P
 
. .
It's not a delay, it's standard procedure in India.

This shows the competency level of Indian bureaucracy. No wonder it's arms developer feels that it has all the time in the world. As India with its penny wise, pound foolish approach make every arms dealers salivate but end up in disappointment as India is even incompetent at squandering their own money.
 
.
2019 = Modi's time = Elections.

Plus Modi does not have enough funds allocated for such a hefty purchase.
He has had some commitment with Israel too.

Remember India is a low income country with a limited budget:


India has no class. No purchasing power.
 
.
It's not a delay, it's standard procedure in India.

This shows the competency level of Indian bureaucracy. No wonder it's arms developer feels that it has all the time in the world. As India with its penny wise, pound foolish approach make every arms dealers salivate but end up in disappointment as India is even incompetent at squandering their own money.

Incompetence at squandering money is a skill we value!
 
.
I guess india will go for the F35 eventually which makes the tejas a wasted purchase.

With so many foreign suppliers its really taxing on the air force logistics.

In singapore, especially with air force we stick to one manufacturer as our supplier such that there are no problems associated with weapons integration and pilots cross-usage .

Our F-5 pilots have no issue flying a F-15 and vice versa.

the indian air force will eventually find itself getting into unnecessary hassle.

when your pilots need to scramble with more than 6 different kinds of fighter jets from 6 different countries and manufacturers its gonna be hell.

Then again, in singapore we do not have a very good impression of indian nationals especially with billateral exercises.

We also know that during the cope india exercise with USA, india managed to down USA F-15C because the american pilots were not allowed to use BVRAAM but they themselves were allowed to.

Such an incompetent spirit will only doom the entire nation eventually
 
. .
I only hope india wont make same mistake again of copying the dassault mirage 3(1956) delta airframe and calling it a 4.99G fighter and then to sell it to the armed forces for 3million USD more than the dassault rafale
 
. .
.
Why start a new thread, when there is a sticky thread about Make in India fighter tender,
where this article has been posted.
@WebMaster thread is redundants, and comments mainly trolling...
No need to keep thread.
 
.
Tejas has been such a waste for India. It should just scrap the program or privatize/sell HAL to someone who knows what they are doing. It's been an embarrassment for India given how quickly Pakistan has moved on the JF-17 while the Teja continues to flounder.
 
.
I only hope india wont make same mistake again of copying the dassault mirage 3(1956) delta airframe and calling it a 4.99G fighter and then to sell it to the armed forces for 3million USD more than the dassault rafale

Indians like to steal from their own.
 
.
Tejas has been such a waste for India. It should just scrap the program or privatize/sell HAL to someone who knows what they are doing. It's been an embarrassment for India given how quickly Pakistan has moved on the JF-17 while the Teja continues to flounder.

Don't think that's accurate!
Knowledge is never wasted! This will come in handy for our scientists and engineers at some point. Experience building and designing an aircraft, the procurement, supply chain, manufacturing base and AF requirements are just some of the things we were able to learn from this. I wouldn't dismiss such valuable learnings.
I agree, we should move on from it if the intention isn't to commercialize, but I certainly wouldn't call it a waste.
 
.
Back
Top Bottom