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ANALYSIS: Terrorism and the denial problem —Dr Hasan-Askari Rizvi



The most serious threat to Pakistan’s political stability and economic development is the growing terrorist attacks by the various Taliban groups and other militant Islamic groups that use violence to pursue their narrow-based religious and political agendas

Pakistan’s societal harmony and political stability is threatened by the complex challenges of religious intolerance, Islamic-sectarian violence, militancy and jihadi culture against the backdrop of the regional and global environment that is not always helpful. These domestic ailments have compromised Pakistan’s capacity to cope with global pressures and improve its bargaining position in international diplomacy.

Pakistan’s most serious handicap is its troubled economy, which depends heavily on economic assistance from international financial institutions and other countries, especially Western countries, including the US. It faces acute problems both at the macro and micro levels, with growing economic pressures on the common people due to inflation, corruption and power shortages. Further, religious extremism and terrorism have dissuaded foreign investors from bringing their capital into Pakistan. Several Pakistani investors have shifted a part or all of their economic activity to the Gulf States, which has adversely affected Pakistan’s economy and weakened its links with the global economy.

In addition to the problems of the economy, Pakistan’s internal harmony and stability are threatened by Islamic-sectarian violence and terrorist attacks in different cities. This type of violence causes serious human and material losses and threatens economic prospects. Suicide attacks and bombings also cause insecurity among the people and weaken their confidence in the government.

The main sources of Pakistan’s current troubles are internal. Religious intolerance has caused social and cultural distortions in Pakistan. This builds societal pressures on non-Muslim citizens who face violent threats from various hardline Islamic groups and the state is often unable to protect them.

Sectarian violence has increased because religious intolerance denies the pluralist nature of Muslim societies. The activists of different sectarian groups fight gang wars with each other. Denominational differences do not adversely affect the day-to-day interaction among ordinary people who live in mixed neighbourhoods.

Sectarian violence is initiated by hardline religious-sectarian groups and their diehard supporters, who also subscribe to the jihadi culture. There were serious incidents of Shia-Sunni violence in December and February in Karachi. The most unfortunate incident took place on the eve of the birth anniversary of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) when the followers of the Deobandi/Wahabi Islamic tradition clashed with the followers of the Barelvi tradition who had taken out a festive procession on that occasion. It is noteworthy that the students of a madrassa blocked the route of the procession, which resulted in violence. Earlier this month, some religious leaders with known links with a banned sectarian organisation were killed in a daylight assault in Karachi.

The most serious threat to Pakistan’s political stability and economic development is the growing terrorist attacks by the various Taliban groups and other militant Islamic groups that use violence to pursue their narrow-based religious and political agendas.

Pakistani state and society are threatened by reckless violence bred by the Pakistani Taliban, other militant groups based in the tribal areas, and sectarian and jihadi organisations based in Punjab and Sindh. The Taliban launch suicide attacks and bombings in and around government installations and places of public use, including mosques. They also execute their adversaries in public and throw their dead bodies to terrorise people and destroy schools, especially those for girls.

Pakistan’s civilian and military authorities have been taking tough action against them since the last week of April 2009, when they initiated a comprehensive security operation in Swat, followed by a similar operation in South Waziristan in October. Currently, the security forces are engaged in similar operations in other tribal agencies, especially in Orakzai, Kurram, Khyber and Bajaur.

Despite such a massive challenge of religious extremism and terrorism, a large section of politically active people do not fully comprehend the lethality of this threat. The conservative and orthodox Islamic groups and the political rightists are suffering from varying degrees of denial of this threat.

Most of them are not prepared to admit that they have a very simplistic view of the complex security situation in Pakistan. They would condemn terrorism and the killing of innocent people. However, if you ask them to condemn the Taliban or other militant groups, either they do not blame the Taliban and other militant groups or try to sympathise with their cause.

There are religious leaders who argue that the agents of Pakistan’s foreign adversaries and criminals engage in terrorist attacks and that the ‘genuine’ Taliban are not involved in such activities. They argue that the Taliban are true Muslims and friends of Pakistan and that no Muslim can engage in violence.


Some openly name India, Israel and the US for sponsoring terrorism in order to destabilise Pakistan.


The ‘foreign devil’ argument is based on the Islamic discourse propagated during and after the years of General Zia’s rule.

The Pakistani state socialised young people in regular educational institutions and through the media in Islamic orthodoxy and militancy. Therefore, the minds of a large number of people are receptive to what Islamic hardline leaders and leaders of the jihadi groups argue: that the whole world is determined to destroy the Muslims and Islam. They have a dichotomised view of domestic and global politics: we, the Muslims versus they, the enemies of Islam.

Such a state of mind develops sympathy for the Taliban and other militant Islamic groups, especially those engaged in fighting the Indian troops in Kashmir. The Islamic groups and militants play up the Kashmir issue and anti-India sentiments to sustain their support in society.

The denial problem afflicts the official civilian and military circles where the people at the lower echelons are not fully convinced that the Taliban can be held responsible for Pakistan’s current predicament. A popular theme with the Punjab government is the denial of existence of the Punjabi Taliban, i.e. a conglomerate of jihadi and sectarian groups. Some Urdu newspaper columnists have argued that talk of the Punjabi Taliban is to create a pretext for military action in Punjab. A Lahore-based Urdu newspaper argued in its editorial on March 21, 2010 that the government should stop using the Pakistan Army against the Afghan Taliban, pull back troops from the tribal areas and post them on the troubled India-Pakistan border.

As long as covert support and sympathy for militancy and jihadi culture is present in Punjab, it is going to be an uphill task to get rid of religious extremism and militancy.

Dr Hasan-Askari Rizvi is a political and defence analyst

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
 
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Well there's two ends of the spectrum. One is what this guy says, and one is him himself. Now most Pakistanis do not deny that taliban are carrying out the terrorism, so he is wrong there. Secondly, no matter how much these liberals might spin it by using sarcastic and personal attack arguments, we believe India is involved, and it has nothing to do with Zia or the likes. Even many people who dislike Zia believe in Indian involvement.
 
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Very true but as stated by the author, it would be denied by the Pakistani members.

Pakistani people don't realize the seriousness of the situation and the complications that they will have to face with in the coming years.

10 years back, we said that Pak is playing with a dangerous weapon and it might back fire. Today it is backfiring.

Today the whole world is saying that if Pak continues to use this weapon, its existence might be at stake. At least now Pak members should understand the seriousness of the issue.

Religious extremism is no answer.
 
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Well there's two ends of the spectrum. One is what this guy says, and one is him himself. Now most Pakistanis do not deny that taliban are carrying out the terrorism, so he is wrong there. Secondly, no matter how much these liberals might spin it by using sarcastic and personal attack arguments, we believe India is involved, and it has nothing to do with Zia or the likes. Even many people who dislike Zia believe in Indian involvement.

Respect you mate but I would like to disagree a little.
Most Pakistanis do not deny Taliban's hand but they do not acknowledge their is more than just Taliban in Pak right now. There are so many terrorist outfits that are different from Taliban but their purpose is same.

Some of these are being used by Pak against India. They serve Pak's purpose and hence are supported by Pak govt.

Since all of the mess in Pak today is Pak govt's own mess, its trying to run away from its responsiblity and putting the blame on India and US.

These extremists didn't come up in just a day. They were nurtured in past when they could be used against India. Now they turned against Pak, so things have got out of control.
 
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Respect you mate but I would like to disagree a little.
Most Pakistanis do not deny Taliban's hand but they do not acknowledge their is more than just Taliban in Pak right now. There are so many terrorist outfits that are different from Taliban but their purpose is same.

Some of these are being used by Pak against India. They serve Pak's purpose and hence are supported by Pak govt.

Well it's a dirty game. You point out what Pakistan government might possibly be doing, don't forget what India did in the past regards to mukhti bahini and might possibly be doing today with regards to TTP and BLA. So it's not a one way street.

Since all of the mess in Pak today is Pak govt's own mess, its trying to run away from its responsiblity and putting the blame on India and US.

These extremists didn't come up in just a day. They were nurtured in past when they could be used against India. Now they turned against Pak, so things have got out of control.

This is a big misconception. No group has turned against Pakistan. TTP was never trained or nurtured or used by GoP. TTP and co have existed for a long time, however never had any mass support or funding.
 
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Btw, also, Islamic extremism isn't the creation of Pakistan.

Several factors, such as Israeli occupation of Palestine, Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, Indian occupation of Kashmir and constant US intervention in muslim countries are the main causes of this.
 
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1. Dr Hasan-Askari Rizvi a respected Pakistani expert is saying the problem is internal.

2. The reason is extremism and intolerance that exist in Pakistan.

3. The problem is "denial problem" i.e. the Pakistanis denies this.

4. And they blame India, US, Israel etc. to divert public anger and attention.

5. The denial will not help Pakistani people and the terrorism will not eradicated this is Dr. Rizvi's conclusion.
 
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1. Never heard of him before, so he seems respected to you as his opinion appeals to you.

2. Intolerance to what? The author speaks about non-muslims. But that's completely false. He is using the terrorists and extremists to extrapolate a hypothesis about the whole population. Extremism, sure, it is a problem.

3. Pakistan denies that extremism is a problem? It certainly does not. On the other hand, intolerance is very little and only there due to the extremist elements, which need to be taken care of.

4. Well that's sort of a case of telling others that this is the only truth and any other explanation is false. I do not believe US is involved, Israeli involvement is plausible, however Indian involvement is for sure.

5. Terrorism is a bigger issue and Rizvi does not seem to know the roots of terrorism.
 
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Btw, also, Islamic extremism isn't the creation of Pakistan.

Several factors, such as Israeli occupation of Palestine, Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, Indian occupation of Kashmir and constant US intervention in muslim countries are the main causes of this.

Who are u kidding with????

1. If US is the reason then why Pakistan is US alley????????

2. If US is doing sin why are u helping them in this and becoming their partner in crime?????

3. Soviets has not invaded Afghanistan, stop ur propaganda. They were invited by then Afgan govt.

4. Why are u escaping the part where the Osama was given base in fight with Soviets.

5. Why are u not mentioning the role of petro dollar funded terrorism?

6. Why are u not saying anything about the radical ideology imported and the flow of arab funds.
 
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1. If US is the reason then why Pakistan is US alley????????

2. If US is doing sin why are u helping them in this and becoming their partner in crime?????

We were forced into it.

3. Soviets has not invaded Afghanistan, stop ur propaganda. They were invited by then Afgan govt.

It's foreign intervention nonetheless.

4. Why are u escaping the part where the Osama was given base in fight with Soviets.

Because it suited US at the time.

5. Why are u not mentioning the role of petro dollar funded terrorism?

You're talking about an extremist school of thought, wahabism. They are extremists, who wouldn't be successful if it weren't for the things I mentioned.

6. Why are u not saying anything about the radical ideology imported and the flow of arab funds.

Radical ideology is again due to the reasons I mentioned. Arab funds are mentioned above.
 
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We were forced into it.



It's foreign intervention nonetheless.



Because it suited US at the time.



You're talking about an extremist school of thought, wahabism. They are extremists, who wouldn't be successful if it weren't for the things I mentioned.



Radical ideology is again due to the reasons I mentioned. Arab funds are mentioned above.

1. a. How r u forced at gun point?
b.) What have US have done if u refused, invaded pakistan?
c.) If u r forced and then why are u boasting of friendship and ally as mr. qureshi is boasting in Washington?
d. If one robber ask a innocent person for help in roberry by forcing that innocent person. The innocent person don't ask for share in loot.

Why Pakistan is asking for aid, money, weapons, nuke deal etc. And claiming as US ally?


2. It was not foreign intervention but the assistance of a friend;y neighbor to the call of a elected govt. of Afghanistan.

3. a.) If it is suited the US, to hell with US. Why u care??
b.) why you have provided them base and get aid and weapons in return.
c.) Is it not like helping a robber rob your neighbor?

4. Extremism always survives on misconception and propaganda, you have not answer my question yet. Why Jia and Mush govt. have allowed extremism to spread?

5. The arguments u have put forward are lame. Bangladesh is also a Islamic nation, even there are some foreign funded radicals but there is no large scale and open rally of terrorist or bomb blast at daily basis.

India also has a very large number of Muslims and they also get angry at any wrong doing u have mentioned but they are not radicals.
 
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1. a. How r u forced at gun point?
b.) What have US have done if u refused, invaded pakistan?
c.) If u r forced and then why are u boasting of friendship and ally as mr. qureshi is boasting in Washington?
d. If one robber ask a innocent person for help in roberry by forcing that innocent person. The innocent person don't ask for share in loot.

Why Pakistan is asking for aid, money, weapons, nuke deal etc. And claiming as US ally?

1a. Threat of bringing Pakistan back to stone age.
b. Yes, very much possible.
c. Current leadership is in the pockets of US.
d. If we can get something out of it, why not.

2. It was not foreign intervention but the assistance of a friend;y neighbor to the call of a elected govt. of Afghanistan.

It is foreign intervention by definition.

3. a.) If it is suited the US, to hell with US. Why u care??
b.) why you have provided them base and get aid and weapons in return.
c.) Is it not like helping a robber rob your neighbor?

a, b. Backing the freedom fighters was in the interests of Pakistan.
c. Not quite so, because freedom fighters and subsequently Taliban were popular in Afghanistan.

4. Extremism always survives on misconception and propaganda, you have not answer my question yet. Why Jia and Mush govt. have allowed extremism to spread?

A state does what it thinks in its interests. India helps these extremists if its in their interests. US did the same since it was in their interests to dothat.

5. The arguments u have put forward are lame.

I don't believe they are. Typically, this is a sign of desperation as you're not replying to my arguments too convincingly.

Bangladesh is also a Islamic nation, even there are some foreign funded radicals but there is no large scale and open rally of terrorist or bomb blast at daily basis.

India also has a very large number of Muslims and they also get angry at any wrong doing u have mentioned but they are not radicals

It depends from country to country. Palestine, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq all have extremists because of occupations in those countries.

Also, you seem to be implying that a large number of Pakistani population is radical. That is not case.
 
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1. Dr Hasan-Askari Rizvi a respected Pakistani expert is saying the problem is internal

hahahaha all of a sudden he became a respected Pakistani expert !!! for an Indian! now he's talking in tune with India so his words are free from bias !! right
by the way I never heard of such an Expert before.
1. a. How r u forced at gun point?
b.) What have US have done if u refused, invaded pakistan?
c.) If u r forced and then why are u boasting of friendship and ally as mr. qureshi is boasting in Washington?
d. If one robber ask a innocent person for help in roberry by forcing that innocent person. The innocent person don't ask for share in loot.

Why Pakistan is asking for aid, money, weapons, nuke deal etc. And claiming as US ally?


2. It was not foreign intervention but the assistance of a friend;y neighbor to the call of a elected govt. of Afghanistan.

3. a.) If it is suited the US, to hell with US. Why u care??
b.) why you have provided them base and get aid and weapons in return.
c.) Is it not like helping a robber rob your neighbor?

4. Extremism always survives on misconception and propaganda, you have not answer my question yet. Why Jia and Mush govt. have allowed extremism to spread?

5. The arguments u have put forward are lame. Bangladesh is also a Islamic nation, even there are some foreign funded radicals but there is no large scale and open rally of terrorist or bomb blast at daily basis.

India also has a very large number of Muslims and they also get angry at any wrong doing u have mentioned but they are not radicals.

First of all i donot consider repyling you as a wise option but just in case if someone gets fooled by this troll, i would clarify things.

1- Yeah Pakistan was forced and even now again in this WOT whole worlds believes and mentions that Musharaf was arm twisted.

India has jumped in the figure just now and thats y you guys dont know anything about the whole **** going on from last 3 decades and all ur knowledge is based on articles read over web or Indian media, and without even knowing that u might be missing a big chunk of information u believe in them and start posting.

Stop trolling here if you are so interested then go again back to google and read thoroughly what had happened then.

2- What would US have done !! of course not invaded but had gone for a war by its media against us with an intention to prove us another threat to west and then put some heavy sanctions and later attack Pakistan. Same old formula seen from world war II till today.

3- Please learn how diplomacy works. What u want to say is that Pakistan should fight for US while claiming US as enemy by government and get back into same **** where it would had gone by denying co-operation !!! You are talking about two countries where one is trapped in cold war, not two kids fighting over a lolly pop in a slum.

If u r forced and then why are u boasting of friendship and ally as mr. qureshi is boasting in Washington?

get your words correct, its strategic alliance and partnership not friendship.

Boasting alliance? why US arm twists Pk on one hand and with sweets words on other hand calls us an ally !! Of course when there is no other option then better make it a deal and get own interests served as well rather than making a cry, its a wise option that any sane person would do.

If one robber ask a innocent person for help in roberry by forcing that innocent person. The innocent person don't ask for share in loot.

Your words show your immaturity. Which idiot on earth or son of a gun has told you that Pakistan has asked for a share !! and by the way what is US getting in loot ?? Any gold mines hidden in Afghanistan or Oil !!!!!! OR you mean Pakistan has asked for a share in Osama's body if incase US captures him ??? :rofl::rofl::rofl:


The arguments u have put forward are lame. Bangladesh is also a Islamic nation, even there are some foreign funded radicals but there is no large scale and open rally of terrorist or bomb blast at daily basis.

its just because here funding is very strong because bangladesh is nt that big concern for India as Pakistan.:pakistan::pakistan::pakistan:
 
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1. a. How r u forced at gun point?
b.) What have US have done if u refused, invaded pakistan?
c.) If u r forced and then why are u boasting of friendship and ally as mr. qureshi is boasting in Washington?
d. If one robber ask a innocent person for help in roberry by forcing that innocent person. The innocent person don't ask for share in loot.

Why Pakistan is asking for aid, money, weapons, nuke deal etc. And claiming as US ally?


2. It was not foreign intervention but the assistance of a friend;y neighbor to the call of a elected govt. of Afghanistan.

3. a.) If it is suited the US, to hell with US. Why u care??
b.) why you have provided them base and get aid and weapons in return.
c.) Is it not like helping a robber rob your neighbor?

4. Extremism always survives on misconception and propaganda, you have not answer my question yet. Why Jia and Mush govt. have allowed extremism to spread?

5. The arguments u have put forward are lame. Bangladesh is also a Islamic nation, even there are some foreign funded radicals but there is no large scale and open rally of terrorist or bomb blast at daily basis.

India also has a very large number of Muslims and they also get angry at any wrong doing u have mentioned but they are not radicals.

Man, This introspection will surely help pakistan and its citizen to come to terms with reality. They have been living in a self sustained delusion for decades now. Any one geneuinly seeking answers put forth above in a neutral way will realise the unnecessary fobia that they have inculcated to justify all thats mess which is happening happening in pakistan.

Thanks for the efforts put !!
 
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hahahaha all of a sudden he became a respected Pakistani expert !!! for an Indian! now he's talking in tune with India so his words are free from bias !! right
by the way I never heard of such an Expert before.


First of all i donot consider repyling you as a wise option but just in case if someone gets fooled by this troll, i would clarify things.

1- Yeah Pakistan was forced and even now again in this WOT whole worlds believes and mentions that Musharaf was arm twisted.

India has jumped in the figure just now and thats y you guys dont know anything about the whole **** going on from last 3 decades and all ur knowledge is based on articles read over web or Indian media, and without even knowing that u might be missing a big chunk of information u believe in them and start posting.

Stop trolling here if you are so interested then go again back to google and read thoroughly what had happened then.

2- What would US have done !! of course not invaded but had gone for a war by its media against us with an intention to prove us another threat to west and then put some heavy sanctions and later attack Pakistan. Same old formula seen from world war II till today.

3- Please learn how diplomacy works. What u want to say is that Pakistan should fight for US while claiming US as enemy by government and get back into same **** where it would had gone by denying co-operation !!! You are talking about two countries where one is trapped in cold war, not two kids fighting over a lolly pop in a slum.



get your words correct, its strategic alliance and partnership not friendship.

Boasting alliance? why US arm twists Pk on one hand and with sweets words on other hand calls us an ally !! Of course when there is no other option then better make it a deal and get own interests served as well rather than making a cry, its a wise option that any sane person would do.



Your words show your immaturity. Which idiot on earth or son of a gun has told you that Pakistan has asked for a share !! and by the way what is US getting in loot ?? Any gold mines hidden in Afghanistan or Oil !!!!!! OR you mean Pakistan has asked for a share in Osama's body if incase US captures him ??? :rofl::rofl::




its just because here funding is very strong because bangladesh is nt that big concern for India as Pakistan.


Felling happy with the troll?

Dr. Rizvi is a Pakistani defense analyst and regularly writes for biggest Pakistani newspapers, it shows that Pakistani reads and respects his opinions. I have not said that he's respected by me or India but by Pakistanis. Also u haven't heard about him yet? It shows your knowledge about Pakistan.


You are saying Afghanistan don't have gold mines so why soviets have invaded it, as many Pakistani says??

And for Pakistan, Afghanistan is a gold mine you have got money and weapons due to Afghanistan in the past and now you are getting the same.

And your reaction can be best answered in a line i.e.

"Terrorism and the denial problem"
-Dr Hasan Askari Rizvi
 
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