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Analysis: Pakistan and the Chinese century
Syed Shoaib Hasan
Writing in Vanity Fair magazine recently, Nobel Prize-winning economist and one of the world’s top intellectuals Joseph E. Stiglitz highlighted a fact that marks the end of an era in world history and holds immense promise and benefits for Pakistan and its citizens.

According to Stiglitz, at the turn of new year, China will become the world’s largest and most powerful economy — overtaking the US and thus launching an era which he says “will last for a very long time, if not forever”.

How this has been established and why it has escaped the attention of the world’s news media is not the subject here and is best explained by the Nobel Prize-winning professor and the fourth most influential economist by academic citation himself.

What is important for Pakistan is that this rise in its ‘greatest friend’s’ stature could be the most fortunate event in what has so far been a rather forgettable new millennium for Islamabad. From the fallout of the 9/11 attacks to the growth of internal insurgencies and an increasingly beleaguered economy, the country has been dragging itself along with predictions of doom and disaster hanging over its head.

But China’s ascendancy — coinciding with the end of the Afghan conflict — means a new dawn could be approaching. It’s not all conjecture: between them, Pakistan’s past two governments have managed to inveigle a $43.5 billion investment deal from Beijing. What is needed now is the proper management and planning of the resulting schemes.

“Pakistan must be more transactional in its relationship with China,” said Dr Akbar Zaidi, a senior economist. “Over the years a lot of MoUs have been signed but rarely have these been translated into actual projects.”

Dr Zaidi cited the example of the Thar Coal project, launched with much fanfare in 2011 but which has since run into financial trouble. While the government insists that it’s still on, he says that past history suggests that it is highly unlikely to be completed on time, and may never actually get operational.

“China has seen enough of Pakistan’s troubled governance to know that what is set in stone today may well all have melted away tomorrow,” he said.

“They may put in amounts as seed money which may seem enormous, but which is peanuts for them — and then wait and see what sort of response comes from the national government in question. They have done this in Africa and Latin America, and have walked away when things got stuck in a rut.”

Dr Zaidi’s hypothesis certainly remains true for most bilateral civilian projects. But it appears to lose weight when tested on defence cooperation between the two sides. Technology transfer for initial weapons development from China for the M-11 / HATF 3, or the co-production of weapons systems such as the F-7P jet have resulted in a Pakistani weapons production industry that now looks set to prosper.

According to the ministry of defence production, military exports have doubled in the past year. This was clear at the recent IDEAS arms fair with greater interest shown in Pakistani defence goods than in those being displayed by renowned international firms.

One reason for the weapons industry’s success in comparison to the civilian sector is the predominance of the Pakistan military in relations with any foreign power. However, if that was actually the case here, it would still not account for the number of MoUs signed or the fewer number of agreements reached in spheres that are purely civilian and where the grants given cannot be re-allocated to defence needs.

Debate on investment

The biggest current example is of course the Pakistan-China trade corridor, seen as a game changer for the country. It also remains a top priority for the current government, something emphasised by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif himself. Yet the project, which envisages the construction of a vast transport and communications infrastructure to connect Chinese Kashgar to the Gwadar port, is already in dispute.

“Our problem is that our priorities remain narrowly confined to political and provincial domains,” said Daud Khan Achakzai, head of the Pakistan senate subcommittee on communications and transport. “This project will be developed over a period of at least 15 years and it needs long-term vision and planning, whereas each new government has been trying to amend it to best benefit its constituency.”

In such a move recently, the PML-N led government has diverted the original route through Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan, to include Punjab and parts of Sindh. This has resulted in an uproar from the benches, especially from KP and Balochistan MNAs.

Achakzai, who is from Zhob, says that while he agrees that Punjab and Sindh should also derive benefits from the project, this should not be at the cost of an already greatly discriminated Balochistan.

“Each province should get its just share; as should Pakistan,” he contends.

“We must have a greater debate over the investment from China, as they stand to gain over 10 days in transport time for goods and energy. Currently, it takes them 12 days to ship goods and fuel from the Middle East, whereas the corridor would cut this down to 24 to 36 hours.”

This is particularly important, as Stiglitz points out. He says that while China may have moved into the number one economy slot, that does not mean its pace of growth is going to slow down anytime soon. In particular, experts agree, this means a growth in its demand for fuel and oil will increase, the largest proven deposits of which lie around the Persian Gulf.

As such, almost all indicators suggest that Beijing’s best years lie ahead. That’s something that its adversaries are well aware of and want to control as much as they can. None perhaps as much as the US, as is evident with current American President Barack Obama’s pivot to Asia policy which experts like Stiglitz maintain is nothing less than the encirclement and containment of the Chinese Dragon, preying on the fears of its smaller neighbours over territorial disputes.

The only exception to this appears to be Pakistan. In a recent conversation with this reporter at a defence seminar, Chinese officials described the relationship between the two countries by clasping their hands together and calling the two nations “brothers”. While some of this may be rhetoric, there is also a strong element of truth in it. As such it puts Pakistan in an enviable position to propel itself through the 21st century. The only obstacles in the way appear to be self constructed; their timely removal could help propel Pakistan into a new league of economic success.

Published in Dawn December 14th , 2014
 
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Pakistan's future can be bright if and only if they give up both political and religious terrorism. Everybody including China, India, Iran and USA have said this. Your country can get 10 times more development projects and lot more two way deals but for your state sponsored terrorism.

China has helped you a lot in the past but all that was wasted - why? state sponsored terrorism. Bring your military establishment and religious fanatics to jail; cut the chord of dependency for Saudi dollars which only serve to turn your kids into radicals
 
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Pakistan's future can be bright if and only if they give up both political and religious terrorism. Everybody including China, India, Iran and USA have said this. Your country can get 10 times more development projects and lot more two way deals but for your state sponsored terrorism.

China has helped you a lot in the past but all that was wasted - why? state sponsored terrorism. Bring your military establishment and religious fanatics to jail; cut the chord of dependency for Saudi dollars which only serve to turn your kids into radicals
Look who's talking. A person from the country that for 30 years preached jihad, jihad, jihad so that our children would get killed fighting the Soviets in a useless war which USA forced us to fight. Where was your sense of justice and morality then when you were sending Jihadis to Afghanistan from CIA funds. Even Hillary Clinton said you formed the terrorists of today.

Do you know Usama bin Laden met officials in America in the embassy in Karachi. You created these people and you should suffer the consequences not us Pakistanis. Haqqani has a picture with Reagan when he went to America. Almost all the so called mujahideen leaders were on USA's side just so that you could see a Soviet defeat.
 
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Look who's talking. A person from the country that for 30 years preached jihad, jihad, jihad so that our children would get killed fighting the Soviets in a useless war which USA forced us to fight. Where was your sense of justice and morality then when you were sending Jihadis to Afghanistan from CIA funds. Even Hillary Clinton said you formed the terrorists of today.

Do you know Usama bin Laden met officials in America in the embassy in Karachi. You created these people and you should suffer the consequences not us Pakistanis. Haqqani has a picture with Reagan when he went to America. Almost all the so called mujahideen leaders were on USA's side just so that you could see a Soviet defeat.
Woa slow down,
I sense as if he is false flagger @Horus.
These people and their double standards,remarkable! So,for the whole time we were the only ones harbouring "kind jihadest" against soviets and "brutal terrorist" against Americans. The rest participants are imaginary-we are insane and suffering of hallucinations.(they say)
Regards
 
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“Pakistan must be more transactional in its relationship with China,” said Dr Akbar Zaidi, a senior economist. “Over the years a lot of MoUs have been signed but rarely have these been translated into actual projects.”

Dr Zaidi cited the example of the Thar Coal project, launched with much fanfare in 2011 but which has since run into financial trouble. While the government insists that it’s still on, he says that past history suggests that it is highly unlikely to be completed on time, and may never actually get operational.

“China has seen enough of Pakistan’s troubled governance to know that what is set in stone today may well all have melted away tomorrow,” he said.
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Given these highlighted sentences, what makes the reader hopeful that Pakistan will be able to capitalize on its relationship with China as the article envisages?
 
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Look who's talking. A person from the country that for 30 years preached jihad, jihad, jihad so that our children would get killed fighting the Soviets in a useless war which USA forced us to fight. Where was your sense of justice and morality then when you were sending Jihadis to Afghanistan from CIA funds. Even Hillary Clinton said you formed the terrorists of today.

Do you know Usama bin Laden met officials in America in the embassy in Karachi. You created these people and you should suffer the consequences not us Pakistanis. Haqqani has a picture with Reagan when he went to America. Almost all the so called mujahideen leaders were on USA's side just so that you could see a Soviet defeat.

It wasnt their fault, you need to look after your interest and you keep thinking US and China for that matter will look after your interest.
 
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Pakistan's future can be bright if and only if they give up both political and religious terrorism. Everybody including China, India, Iran and USA have said this. Your country can get 10 times more development projects and lot more two way deals but for your state sponsored terrorism.

China has helped you a lot in the past but all that was wasted - why? state sponsored terrorism. Bring your military establishment and religious fanatics to jail; cut the chord of dependency for Saudi dollars which only serve to turn your kids into radicals

Since we're talking about state terrorism, most of the people in this world strongly believes that none can beat CIA and Mossad in this wicked art. So, your advice is given to the wrong people. Practise yourself what you preach and people will listen to you or else be ready for insults because that is what hypocrites deserve.
 
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Since we're talking about state terrorism, most of the people in this world strongly believes that none can beat CIA and Mossad in this wicked art. So, your advice is given to the wrong people. Practise yourself what you preach and people will listen to you or else be ready for insults because that is what hypocrites deserve.

CIA and Mossad PUNISH terrorists. That is different from what Pakistan does which is to create, sustain and depend upon terrorists for money and territorial jealousy. What you are saying is like equivocating the cop and robber for having guns. The thief's gun is illegal and the cop's gun is to punish the thief.

BUT Pakistan's punishment is coming from its own guns/terrorists. Because what the terrorism they committed is not juts illegal but also immoral.

Look who's talking. A person from the country that for 30 years preached jihad, jihad, jihad so that our children would get killed fighting the Soviets in a useless war which USA forced us to fight. Where was your sense of justice and morality then when you were sending Jihadis to Afghanistan from CIA funds. Even Hillary Clinton said you formed the terrorists of today.

Do you know Usama bin Laden met officials in America in the embassy in Karachi. You created these people and you should suffer the consequences not us Pakistanis. Haqqani has a picture with Reagan when he went to America. Almost all the so called mujahideen leaders were on USA's side just so that you could see a Soviet defeat.

And where was the Pakistani brain when that war was over and Soviets withdrew? Pakistan benefited hugely from that conflict - 1) The US intervention saved Pakistan from the looming bear and 2) Pakistan took a lot of money in the process! so what if Reagan met with him? even a pet dog is put it down if it goes amd. Pakistan should have known better than shielding OBL for a few more bucks.

@T-Rex
your terrorists are carefully grown and created by your military and the Taleban - here is the first hand account of someone who actually visited to those establishments, photographed and reported on it.

The reporter and the photographer joined me outside. They told me that words of praise were painted across the wall of the inner courtyard for the madrasa’s political patron, a Pakistani religious-party leader, and the Taliban leader Mullah Muhammad Omar. This madrasa, like so many in Pakistan, was a source of the Taliban resurgence that President Hamid Karzai and other Afghan leaders had long been warning about. In this nondescript madrasa in a poor neighborhood of Quetta, one of hundreds throughout the border region, the Taliban and Pakistan’s religious parties were working together to raise an army of militants. “The madrasas are a cover, a camouflage,” a Pashtun legislator from the area told me. Behind the curtain, hidden in the shadows, lurked the ISI.

The Pakistani government, under President Pervez Musharraf and his intelligence chief, Lt. Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, was maintaining and protecting the Taliban, both to control the many groups of militants now lodged in the country and to use them as a proxy force to gain leverage over and eventually dominate Afghanistan. The dynamic has played out in ways that can be hard to grasp from the outside, but the strategy that has evolved in Pakistan has been to make a show of cooperation with the American fight against terrorism while covertly abetting and even coordinating Taliban, Kashmiri and foreign Qaeda-linked militants. The linchpin in this two-pronged and at times apparently oppositional strategy is the ISI. It’s through that agency that Pakistan’s true relationship to militant extremism can be discerned — a fact that the United States was slow to appreciate, and later refused to face directly, for fear of setting off a greater confrontation with a powerful Muslim nation.
 
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We want to bring Pakistan with us on our economic development path.

But true development always comes from within, the Pakistani government needs to see the vast opportunity here, and use it in a way that will build up their country in the same way that China did.

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We are also enjoying deep relationship with our Chinese friends-but some mindsets seem not comfortable. Some elements are acting ridiculously-hence derailing threads and making useless discussions. Chinese posters on PDF are told for not to trust Pakistan on one hand and on the other hand-they are trying to evoke us by propagating nonsense by calling Chinese as anti Islam.I am enjoying these discussions more than anything right now:lol:
Regards
 
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We are also enjoying deep relationship with our Chinese friends-but some mindsets seem not comfortable. Some elements are acting ridiculously-hence derailing threads to useless discussions. Chinese posters on PDF are told for not to trust Pakistan on one hand and on the other hand-they are trying to evoke us by propagating nonsense by calling Chinese as anti Islam.I am enjoying these discussions more than anything right now:lol:
Regards

It should be known that China is not anti-Islam. Hui and Uyghur are just as Chinese as the rest of the 56 Chinese ethnic groups, the same as my own ethnic group (Han).

Hui and Uyghur have produced a great number of Chinese patriots and heroes in our history, I guess you have heard of the famous Chinese Admiral Zheng He, who was a Hui Muslim.

Zheng-He.jpg


China will also need to be on good terms with the Islamic world, since that is the only way we can possibly counter against US hegemony in the next few decades.

China is not anti-Muslim, not at all. We are only fighting against extremist groups that form incredibly small percentages of the overall population, not against any specific ethnic group. I know you guys can understand our situation.
 
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It should be known that China is not anti-Islam. Hui and Uyghur are just as Chinese as the rest of the 56 Chinese ethnic groups, the same as my own ethnic group (Han).

Hui and Uyghur have produced a great number of Chinese patriots and heroes in our history, I guess you have heard of the famous Chinese Admiral Zheng He, who was a Hui Muslim.

Zheng-He.jpg


China will also need to be on good terms with the Islamic world, since that is the only way we can possibly counter against US hegemony in the next few decades.

China is not anti-Muslim, not at all. We are only fighting against extremist groups that form incredibly small percentages of the overall population, not against any specific ethnic group. I know you guys can understand our situation.
It is a wonderful,glorious history and we are united.Pakistan supports China in every way and will continue to support her.They are also trying to project as if Islamic republic country cannot be trusted which is again wrong.In Quran we are taught to be friendly with those nations which are nice to us regardless of any religion.Some elements are spreading lies and propaganda so that we drift apart-but they don't know that our generations are raised with pro-chinese attitude in their genes :lol:
Regards
 
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