ANALYSIS OF PAKISTAN AIR FORCE

[Alpha BeeTee]

I won't blame the enemy for being overconfident when the backbone of our airforce is a fighter aircraft meant to replace age old Mirages and F7s.
At the same time, their overconfidence is a positive for us. Gone is the dream of dominating Indian skies but we hope we can atleast defend and/or make their stay on our skies costly and painful.

 

[Tps43]

Loool again I was being sarcastic.....as are you I believe

 

[thinkingcap81]

This is what we want them to believe frankly. We want them to be arrogant, overconfident and lax in their thinking and preparation.

Are there indications that IAF underestimates PAF?

So when push comes to shove they get the shock of their lives like they did in 65 and left all their equipment on the field to run weeping.

@Joe Shearer has said many times that India assumed that PAF would not attack IAF bases due to an unwritten understanding between IAF and PAF. Why do you say 'weeping' when we did not expect you to attack like this? I think Joe also said that PAF sorties gradually reduced in the 1965 conflict.

 

[Windjammer]

''Thus, Pakistan lost the war to the IAF’s numerical and technological superiority, crumbling its belief of being a highly trained force comparable to India.''

Damn, even the Americans with the most powerful air force in the world know and say that you can never win a war without having boots on the ground but the IAF, which had to fight most air battles over it's own territory, somehow managed to defeat Pakistan. And it's good that the Indians keep underestimating the JF-17 and keep feeding lies to their nation.....maybe Indians don't know that you can't send an aircraft into war that gets dragged on a trailer.

 

[randomradio]

I believe its the other way round. JF-17 has yet to reach that level. The positive thing about JF-17 is that it is without strings attached.

The Block 2 should be at the F-16 B52 level, minus the engine.

The JHMCS and Sniper may make a difference though. But when it comes to BVR, they should at least be on par.

Let there over confidence kill themselves.

The IAF is not even close to being overconfident. The qualitative difference between the two air forces is humongous.

 

[Vapnope]

PAF sorties gradually reduced in the 1965 conflict.

That has been explained various times by Bilal and Kaiser Tufail here and on other forums that PAF top hierarchy didn't want to do it. It was more of a political decision than a military one.

 

[thinkingcap81]

That has been explained various times by Bilal and Kaiser Tufail here and on other forums that PAF top hierarchy didn't want to do it. It was more of a political decision than a military one.

Can you post links to these posts whether here or elsewhere? Or just explain briefly the reasons. Thanks.

 

[Armchair]

I'm surprised at how poorly written and lacking meaningful content this is. The last para itself is disjointed. Is this kind of write-up used to make decisions in the IAF?

 

[Trango Towers]

''Thus, Pakistan lost the war to the IAF’s numerical and technological superiority, crumbling its belief of being a highly trained force comparable to India.''

Damn, even the Americans with the most powerful air force in the world know and say that you can never win a war without having boots on the ground but the IAF, which had to fight most air battles over it's own territory, somehow managed to defeat Pakistan. And it's good that the Indians keep underestimating the JF-17 and keep feeding lies to their nation.....maybe Indians don't know that you can't send an aircraft into war that gets dragged on a trailer.

B1tch slapping is your domain

 

[randomradio]

''Thus, Pakistan lost the war to the IAF’s numerical and technological superiority, crumbling its belief of being a highly trained force comparable to India.''

Damn, even the Americans with the most powerful air force in the world know and say that you can never win a war without having boots on the ground but the IAF, which had to fight most air battles over it's own territory, somehow managed to defeat Pakistan. And it's good that the Indians keep underestimating the JF-17 and keep feeding lies to their nation.....maybe Indians don't know that you can't send an aircraft into war that gets dragged on a trailer.

It would help to know what the IAF actually does. And the difference between the Indian Army and the Indian Air Force.

 

[Windjammer]

It would help to know what the IAF actually DID.....And the difference between the Indian Army and the Indian Air Force.

Corrected for you dear since the author has already concluded on this.

 

[Readerdefence]

Hi to all senior and learned members to check the ability of Indian author is very
Easily the author will never ever compare his super power airforce or navy with the
Chinese airforce or navy or army
Always try to push down somebody like Pakistan who’ s army navy and airforce are
Relatively less in manpower so this so literate and dutiful author never try to bring out
His weakens against somebody who is more powerful to his mighty force
Bravado
Thank you

 

[SQ8]

Are there indications that IAF underestimates PAF?



@Joe Shearer has said many times that India assumed that PAF would not attack IAF bases due to an unwritten understanding between IAF and PAF. Why do you say 'weeping' when we did not expect you to attack like this? I think Joe also said that PAF sorties gradually reduced in the 1965 conflict.

You are mistaking Rann of Kutch with grandslam and its aftermath.
PAF sorties did not reduce at all, if anything they dwindled down due the lack of the IAF putting up a fight and the “invasion” ending up in Tashkent.

 

[thinkingcap81]

You are mistaking Rann of Kutch with grandslam and its aftermath.
PAF sorties did not reduce at all, if anything they dwindled down due the lack of the IAF putting up a fight and the “invasion” ending up in Tashkent.

You are saying that the understanding was valid only till the skirmishes of Rann of Kutch and did not hold once Grandslam started? Was this explicitly mentioned or was it supposed to be understood by IAF? And was it overconfidence/laziness/lack of strategic understanding of the IAF that PAF would not launch a preemptive strike on IAF? Or are you saying something else?

In the Battle of Asal Uttar the PAF did not come to the aid of PA. Was it because the PAF was engaged elsewhere? After attacking IAF bases why would PAF reduce the sorties and not take a much needed upper hand to help PA capture more area?

 

[SQ8]

You are saying that the understanding was valid only till the skirmishes of Rann of Kutch and did not hold once Grandslam started? Was this explicitly mentioned or was it supposed to be understood by IAF? And was it overconfidence/laziness/lack of strategic understanding of the IAF that PAF would not launch a preemptive strike on IAF? Or are you saying something else?

In the Battle of Asal Uttar the PAF did not come to the aid of PA. Was it because the PAF was engaged elsewhere? After attacking IAF bases why would PAF reduce the sorties and not take a much needed upper hand to help PA capture more area?

I don’t know. Why dont you check with a historian, or perhaps take the time out to read a book like Flight of the Falcon.

Because your first paragraph is plain intentional or unintentional juvenile derailment.


The rest is mentioned well even by Singh and Ravi.

Can you post links to these posts whether here or elsewhere? Or just explain briefly the reasons. Thanks.

Please google aeronaut kaiser on google .
Go through it.