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yae iss jang main hamaray jahil wahabbi jhuggay kiya karain gay?:lol: Sounds like to counter Iran's massive political/ economic clout....these wahabbi apostate nations of Saudi haramia/ jordan and Egypt will soon open their jails and detention centres to unleash a new wave of muslim brotherhood suicide bombers to send the message to Iran. They will also pressure Musharraf chamcha to target Shia's in Punjabastan. It might get dirty.:)

Weekend Edition
December 23 / 24, 2006
Chaos by Design

An "Islamic Civil War"

By M. SHAHID ALAM

The war that Western powers--primarily US, Israel and Britain--began against the Islamic world after September 11, 2001, is about to enter a new more dangerous phase as their early plans for 'changing the map of the Middle East' have begun to unravel with unintended consequences.

Codenamed 'the war against terror,' the imperialist war against the Middle East was fueled primarily by US and Israeli ambitions. Britain's participation is mostly a sideshow. US and Israel have convergent aims in the region. The US seeks to deepen its control over the region's oil. Israel wants to create regional conditions that will allow it to complete the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.

As a first step, both objectives would be served by removing four regimes--in Iran, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan--that still resisted US and Israeli ambitions in the region. Once these regimes had been removed, the US and Israel would carry the war into Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, to dismember them into smaller, weaker client states.

Iraq and Afghanistan were chosen as the first targets--the easy points of entry into the war. They had been ravaged by years of war, weakened by internal divisions, and, in the case of Iraq, hollowed out by sanctions. It was believed that occupation would be easy. With friendly regimes in power, the US could start working on regime change in Iran and Syria.

Occupation was indeed a cake walk. But little else has been easy. The Sunni-led insurgency that began within weeks of the fall of Baghdad has succeeded in derailing US efforts to stabilize Iraq. Indeed, as Iraq has moved closer to a civil war over the past few months, pressures within the US are mounting for an American pull out. In Afghanistan too, after a period of initial stability, a Taliban resurgence--operating from liberated areas in neighboring Pakistan--now threatens NATO forces through much of eastern and southern Afghanistan.

In the meanwhile, the US-led war against the region has changed the map of the Middle East, but in unsettling ways. Not only has Iran gained deep influence over Iraq and Afghanistan, it can leverage this influence to raise steeply the cost of the US occupation in both countries. In the meanwhile, with help from Russia and China, Iran has built a military capability that can threaten US clients on the Arabian peninsula, shut off the Hormuz Straits to shipping, and launch missiles that can reach Israel. In addition, last summer, Hizbullah demonstrated a new form of guerilla war--with low-tech rockets, anti-tank weapons, and sophisticated intelligence gathering--that neutralized a determined Israeli offensive.

The Iraq Study Group has described the situation in Iraq "grave and deteriorating," and recommended a quick drawdown of US forces. It is unlikely that the President will take that advice. Instead, the US, Israel and Britain have for some time been working on an alternative plan when it appeared that their initial plans were being derailed. The US, Israel and Britain are now working to incite a civil war between Sunnis and Shias across the Middle East. As Jonathan Cook puts it, taking a leaf from Israeli experience in the West Bank and Gaza, they expect to create "controlled chaos" in the entire Islamic world.

The battle lines in this civil war have been drawn. The principal American-Israeli surrogates in this 'Islamic civil war' showed their colors last July when Israel launched devastating air attacks against Lebanese civilian targets in response to the capture of two Israeli soldiers by Hizbullah. Almost instantly, Cairo, Riyadh and Amman condemned the Hizbullah action. On the opposite side there is the crescent of resurgent Shia power stretching from Lebanon, through Syria and Iraq, into Iran.

During his recent meetings with Israeli leaders and Sunni Arab potentates, according to a headline in NY Times, British prime minister Tony Blair was working to lay the groundwork for an "alliance against extremism." His plan is to erect an 'arc of moderation' against the Shia Crescent, with Iran as the principal "strategic threat" to Western imperial ambitions.

Iraq is already the theater of this 'Islamic civil war.' Last July, one of the aims of the Israeli destruction of Lebanon's civilian infrastructure was to spread this sectarian war to Lebanon. That gambit failed miserably. Now Saudi Arabia is threatening to expand its support for Sunni insurgents in Iraq and destabililize Iran by raising its oil production. More ominously, some of its Wahhabi clerical allies are trying to rouse both Arab fears of Persian domination and Sunni concerns about the ascendancy of the 'heretical' Shias.

The determining factor in this war will be the Sunni populations under the thumbs of the Arab potentates. It is doubtful if the anti-Persian and anti-Shia rhetoric of the Arab potentates will succeed in swinging them around to support governments they have long hated, especially now as their alliance with Israel becomes overt. There is also the risk that in fuelling the Sunni insurgency in Iraq, the Saudis will strengthen al-Qaida and their allies who are sworn to bring down the US-friendly Arab potentates. Moreover, if there is a real war in the region, the pseudo Arab states in the Gulf have no fighting ability they can bring to this conflict. In that event, does the US have the forces to occupy Iraq and also defend its Arab clients in the Gulf?

Paraphrasing prime minister Tony Blair, the NY Times writes, " the fate of the Middle East, ''for good or ill,'' would be felt around the world." It is unlikely that adding an 'Islamic civil war' to the dynamics of the region will work for the 'good' of the US, Israel or Britain.

M. Shahid Alam is professor of economics at Northeastern University, and author of Challenging the New Orientalism: Dissenting Essays on America's 'War Against Islam' (IPI Publications: 2006 forthcoming). He may be reached at alqalam02760@yahoo.com.

© M. Shahid Alam
 
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Well quite frankly, i didn't even read the articel after reading this
islamic world
. Why did he say islamic world, we don;t follow the islamic rules 100%, so it's not islamic world but rather muslim world. Where a bunch of people live that are muslims.
 
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A lot of IFs would have to happen to allow a full scale Shia-Sunni war.

These days the trends in Muslim societies is to eliminate divisions. Iraq is a war of control not ideological.
 
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These days the trends in Muslim societies is to eliminate divisions.

Agreed, even the west is starting to admit, that after 80 years, the ummah is waking up from it's slumber. And a must urge to briing the klifia back is coming through. Insallah, soon there will be a united ummah. But there are still many differences within us.
 
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Agreed, even the west is starting to admit, that after 80 years, the ummah is waking up from it's slumber. And a must urge to briing the klifia back is coming through. Insallah, soon there will be a united ummah. But there are still many differences within us.

Yup., agree even Saudi and other nations know they can't mess around with Irans 13 Million man army + Militia., they just don't have the capability, and incase of a war alot of infracture and most oil will be gone causing a global panic., and I see a trend of unity among muslims here, this war isn't seperating muslims but strengthening us (after Summer war even Sunni's are starting to side with Shia groups)., but rather our puppet leaders are getting out of touch.
 
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yae iss jang main hamaray ***** wahabbi jhuggay kiya karain gay?:lol: Sounds like to counter Iran's massive political/ economic clout....these wahabbi apostate nations of Saudi haramia/ jordan and Egypt will soon open their jails and detention centres to unleash a new wave of muslim brotherhood suicide bombers to send the message to Iran. They will also pressure Musharraf chamcha to target Shia's in Punjabastan. It might get dirty.:) [FONT]

Saudi arabia,jordan and egypt have never attacked iran.
wahabbiism is a cult that is followed in saudi arabia by the elite,mainly the saudi najd's.

You make out as if saudi/arabs have no right to be anti iran.
No arab country was anti iranian until khomeini started telling people to have a revolution and overthrow there governments.

After saddam came to the realization that that he would not get a quick victory he asked for peace in 1982 but Iran refused and dragged the war on for another six years.Yeah we all agree saddam started the war and he was wrong but why did iran carry on the war and inflict such losses to its people and the iraq's.
Sep 1980 iraq invades iran
June 1982 iraq offers peace iran rejects
Aug 1988 iraq iran peace......iran drags the war on for six years but somehow its all saddams/saudi/wahabbis fault.Going of your "haramia" judgement i think we can add iran to the list of "haramia".

You got to love the way the leadership/mullahs of iran go on about how much they hate israel but have never fought a single war against them unlike the arabs who have....Yes the arabs might have lost but at least they fought unlike the iranans who have so far only talked tuff.

The muslim brotherhood is a well respected organization.Your problem with the brotherhood is that they do not hold iran as a model of what an islamic country should be about.The brotherhoods rejects the iran method.... "Mullah rule" .
Let me guess you hate the MMA but do not mind the mullahs of iran.The mullahs of iran to you are gentle,caring,pious men but the mullahs of pakistan are bombers,killers and shia haters.
Strange is not that at any time in the last 10 years america or israel could have destroyed irans nuclear reactors but nothing has happened......they destroyed saddams reactor in double quick time.

We could look at the iran issue in the context of that iran followed american/israeli instructions to carry on fighting for six more years to weaken a sunni/arab iraq .
The iranians for all there anti american statements have done nothing in iraq against the american army...its the sunnis that are fighting where are the shias...o yeah helping america run iraq.
But no its the arabs that we should be wary of not iran.

Irans track record is worse then that off the arabs after you take away all the hype and propaganda that iran likes to surround itself in.

Iran is no different to the arab regimes they just like to make you think that they are.If iran was given the opportunity to be freinds with americia they would be the biggest chamchi of them all.

The pressure the arabs might put on musharaff to kill shias is a big might.In iran the the mullahs have already started sending shia terrorists to kill sunnis in iraq in the thousand.
ALL THE MUSLIMS NATIONS ARE CORRUPT .IRAN IS NO EXCEPTION SO PLEASE STOP MAKING OUT AS IF IRAN IS THE SAVIOUR OF ISLAM ......AND NO BEFORE YOU ACCUSE ME.. I AM NOT PRO ARAB/SAUDI/WAHABBI .
 
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June 1982 iraq offers peace iran rejects
Aug 1988 iraq iran peace......iran drags the war on for six years but somehow its all
We could look at the iran issue in the context of that iran followed american/israeli instructions to carry on fighting for six more years to weaken a sunni/arab iraq


put up a link.

And please share with us all your actuall nationality.

I AM NOT PRO ARAB/SAUDI/WAHABBI .

wow u could have fooled me.:rofl:
 
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Saudi arabia,jordan and egypt have never attacked iran.wahabbiism is a cult that is followed in saudi arabia by the elite,mainly the saudi najd's..

Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia, all three have sent volunteers and active duty servicemen to Iraq during the Iran/ iraq war. Not only that, Saudi haramia has sent billions of dollars worth of Aid and military equipment to Iraq throughout the duration of that conflict.

You make out as if saudi/arabs have no right to be anti iran. No arab country was anti iranian until khomeini started telling people to have a revolution and overthrow there governments.

Now why?.... unless you are an apostate Wahabbi (Zionist/ Cia agent) would you want these CIA proxy regimes like Saudi haramia/ Egypt and Jordan to stay in power?


After saddam came to the realization that that he would not get a quick victory he asked for peace in 1982 but Iran refused and dragged the war on for another six years.Yeah we all agree saddam started the war and he was wrong but why did iran carry on the war and inflict such losses to its people and the iraq's.
Sep 1980 iraq invades iran
June 1982 iraq offers peace iran rejects
Aug 1988 iraq iran peace......iran drags the war on for six years but somehow its all saddams/saudi/wahabbis fault.Going of your "haramia" judgement i think we can add iran to the list of "haramia".

I think you are full of shiit! After you kill a 100,000 Iranians, devastate the country, and then say...Okay...thats enough lets stop fighting? Point being...your wahabbi's are the real ******'s.;)

You got to love the way the leadership/mullahs of iran go on about how much they hate israel but have never fought a single war against them unlike the arabs who have....Yes the arabs might have lost but at least they fought unlike the iranans who have so far only talked tuff..

They haven't fought a single war yet because they are strong, have strong leadership, and are a united and strong nation. Unlike the current 'occupied' Wahabbi world of yours. Weak institutions and weak countries are usually the ones that get pounded.....aka...wahabbi sunni countries. Please note.....All occupied muslim countries (chamchee) are sunni muslim or wahabbi.

The muslim brotherhood is a well respected organization.Your problem with the brotherhood is that they do not hold iran as a model of what an islamic country should be about.The brotherhoods rejects the iran method.... "Mullah rule". Let me guess you hate the MMA but do not mind the mullahs of iran.The mullahs of iran to you are gentle,caring,pious men but the mullahs of pakistan are bombers,killers and shia haters. Strange is not that at any time in the last 10 years america or israel could have destroyed irans nuclear reactors but nothing has happened......they destroyed saddams reactor in double quick time.

Thats ok! If these Muslim brotherhood of buffoons want to have it their way, thats fine by me. We can see where their rotting butts are.......In the frigging jails of your own sunni wahhabbi countries. Also per your other rubbish, if they touch Iran's nuclear reators or sites, it will have consequences. On the other hand....Sunni muslim ones they can destroy and nothing happens.:lol:

We could look at the iran issue in the context of that iran followed american/israeli instructions to carry on fighting for six more years to weaken a sunni/arab iraq. The iranians for all there anti american statements have done nothing in iraq against the american army...its the sunnis that are fighting where are the shias...o yeah helping america run iraq. But no its the arabs that we should be wary of not iran...

Haan haan......jang teray baap nay shru karee thee.....and you blaming Iran for continuing it?:lol: ........You are as brainwashed and as ignorant as your wahabbi sold out lackeys. And why should the shia's fight the Americans in Iraq? The Americans have offered them everything. Isn't that the truth? Why should they side with the sunni's (The same ppl that slaughtered them, denied them power sharing despite them being the majority)???? kiyon bay??

Irans track record is worse then that off the arabs after you take away all the hype and propaganda that Iran likes to surround itself in....

Mr Bongay......I'd like to remind you of where Iran currently sits. It controls Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon and Syria. You don't like it. Tough shiit! They don't bow down to imperialists or zionists, unlike your wahabbi countries do regularly.

Iran is no different to the arab regimes they just like to make you think that they are.If iran was given the opportunity to be freinds with americia they would be the biggest chamchi of them all....

That 'Hollow' friendship with the devil has been offered many times. But has been rejected. You see....bongay.....They threw these terrorists out in 1979. They know who they are dealing with. If your shameless castrated Sunni/ Wahabbi's have the balls, and the gherat, then they should do the same. Terrorism by so called fringe sunni wahabbi terror groups (who now we are increasingly beginning to find out that they are also CIA proxies like this Alqaeda.)........So still it is these wahabbi/ Sunni's who are zionist and imperialist agents.;)

The pressure the arabs might put on musharaff to kill shias is a big might.In iran the the mullahs have already started sending shia terrorists to kill sunnis in iraq in the thousand.....

Look! If you start killing shia's...then they will kil you back. Its very simple. They held an election, the majority of Iraqi's are shia, they got elected. Now Sunni's boycotted that election, and are now marginalised. is that so difficult to understand?

ALL THE MUSLIMS NATIONS ARE CORRUPT .IRAN IS NO EXCEPTION SO PLEASE STOP MAKING OUT AS IF IRAN IS THE SAVIOUR OF ISLAM ......AND NO BEFORE YOU ACCUSE ME.. I AM NOT PRO ARAB/SAUDI/WAHABBI .

Whatever.......and yes you are a supporter of illegal imperialist/Zionist installed undemocratic/ dictatorial muslim regimes. Don't be ashamed to admit it. No one's gonna hang you for it over here.:lol:

You should admit it bongay that your religious institutions, your clergy and your leadership have sold out a long time ago.....Iss main sharam key koi baat naheen hae......Its just a fact of life.

And Btw. I am a sunni Baloch, not shia. Baloch are sunni's. Get a clue man.....
 
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