An Insight into Al-Khalid II MBT.

[Tacticool]

It has already won import orders:

In karachi police mohafiz vehicles failed to stop bullets, what is progress on investigations on that issue?

 

[PWFI]

In karachi police mohafiz vehicles failed to stop bullets, what is progress on investigations on that issue?

There was a clear answer for this question by Nabil_05 ......it was due to downgraded versions and not certified by HIT, i hope some senior members can put some lights.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Salam o alaikum brother, i think it must be Iraq.

Walaikum Salam Bro how r u.

He said ''it already won ORDERS not order.''

So i think he is reflecting some other orders too besides 2006's iraq order.

 

[ChengDao]

Congratulations Pakistan! May the Al Khalid II smash all enemies into the ground!

 

[Desert Fox]

It has already won import orders:

The newer version:


Mohafiz III

Are there more pictures of Mohafiz III and how come it's not mounted with heavy MG?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Are there more pictures of Mohafiz III and how come it's not mounted with heavy MG?

No, i dont have pics... but the hatch type thing you see is for a MG..

 

[IND151]

It weighs around 47 tons. But I think its upgraded version will weigh around 50 tons if PA wants more armor and equipment in AK-2

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

How good al khalid 2 penetration power will be decided on whether it has carousel autoloader or not.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

There was a clear answer for this question by Nabil_05 ......it was due to downgraded versions and not certified by HIT, i hope some senior members can put some lights.

what those Mohafiz vehicles faced were so much off the charts that it was same as sitting in a Sazuki

the other point to note is that Mohafiz is a lightly armored vehicle and only offers protection against the conventional rounds
not steel tiped AP rounds that were used against them. which even pierce the APC's.

an old school fiend of mine is fighting the Taliban scum in the Waziristan and he says that they have encountered the scumbags using AP rounds that pierce multiple walls of the houses like knife through butter.

the suppliers of the BLA, the terrorist gangs in Karachi and the TTP seem to be same because all these terrorists use AP rounds like normal rounds whereas militaries are normally use them only when specifically needed.

 

[muse]

How do these AP rounds enter Pakistan? Where are they warehoused, how are they transported and distributed??

Forget it, let it remain another mystery - Irfan, to your knowledge has the PA ever said the Talib were a foreign funded militia?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Irfan, to your knowledge has the PA ever said the Talib were a foreign funded militia?

they indirectly blame the entities in Afghanistan. the guy I was refering to is a serving Major who has led operations against the TTP. his accounts are personal where he says that the bullets slice through multiple layers of bricks and blocks etc and has seen them zipping past him.
he vaguely referred to some incidents where they stuck their foreign handlers in Pakistan but didnt go in detail. we had only met once after like 15 years and I planned to visit him but then I din't get the time and I was to fly and he had to go back to the frontlines.

if you ever see any odd ISPR cleared statement from the military its normally very apologetic and mysterious. they dont say openly if its the Americans or Indians or Saudis but these "angry brothers" have ample load of these specialised weapons and ammo to take on the army head on. have you seen that picture of "improved" Zarar tank? what short work did their anti tank weapon did to it.


its an open secret that their source of funding is Saudis and UAE, rest is through extortion and bank robberies as far as the weapon supplies is concerned thats really mind boggling. the huge size and the continuation of such supplies has been kept intact and secure through out the conflict and it shows how helpless we are in disrupting them.

apple and orange comparisons are made again by born again anchors and politicians
saying Americans are talking to taliban so why shouldnt we?

forgetting the fact that Americans are occupiers, talking to deposed taliban who are fighting an invader.
whereas TTP doesnt recognise state of Pakistan, its constitution and its chief Justice. it uses talks to regroup and reorganise and does what it did in Mohmand and Sawat.

 

[Keshav Murali]

his accounts are personal where he says that the bullets slice through multiple layers of bricks and blocks etc and has seen them zipping past him.

Sir, that sounds like a 7.62 mm AP Full Metal Jacket round. They have been known to punch through 2 to 3 household cement walls or 20-30 plates of drywall. Bricks are easy for those things.

have you seen that picture of "improved" Zarar tank? what short work did their anti tank weapon did to it.

Improved "Al-Zarrar" tank, if I am not mistaken is upgraded Type 59 with composite filler and heavy K-5 type ERA. I've seen pictures of it and side turret was penetrated IIRC.

Best AT weapons available to TTP is RPG-7 with PG-7V or PG-7L or maybe improved PG-7V variant. These are all 1960s-70s warheads.

PG-7V Basic penetrates 260-300 mm RHA.
PG-7V improved penetrates 400-450 mm RHA.
PG-7VR penetrates 450-500 mm RHA.

All three are not advanced weapons but will easily penetrate turret side thanks to weak side turret protection of T-54A which cannot be changed with upgrades. But since news stated that Al-Zarrar survived multiple hits, I'd say that the warhead was PG-7V improved variant fired at frontal aspect.

Regards,
Keshav

 

[Keshav Murali]

Also, for knowing about how well small arm rounds perform in real life against walls and homes, I'd recommend the

b o x o t r u t h . c o m / d o c s / t h e b o x o t r u t h . h t m

Deliberately spaced. Just remove the spaces and you get the real site.

Also, homes in the USA where the author lives have slightly thinner walls (by maybe half a cm) than we do.

 

[Keshav Murali]

Irfan Baloch sir,

Also, there is no such thing as special AP rounds. There are basically three rounds for small arms.

JSP - Jacketed Soft Point - is a semi-jacketed soft point bullet which disintegrates on impact, causing great injury.

JHP - Jacketed Hollow Point - is the most accurate bullet and has a hollow tip which causes the bullet to expand on impact, transferring all it's kinetic energy and destroys muscles and tissue.

FMJ - Full Metal Jacket - Sometimes referred to as AP, FMJ is a soft core lead bullet encased by a thick case of steel and is commonly used against hard targets - targets hiding behind cover or vehicles.

Hope this helped.

 

[Zarvan]

they indirectly blame the entities in Afghanistan. the guy I was refering to is a serving Major who has led operations against the TTP. his accounts are personal where he says that the bullets slice through multiple layers of bricks and blocks etc and has seen them zipping past him.
he vaguely referred to some incidents where they stuck their foreign handlers in Pakistan but didnt go in detail. we had only met once after like 15 years and I planned to visit him but then I din't get the time and I was to fly and he had to go back to the frontlines.

if you ever see any odd ISPR cleared statement from the military its normally very apologetic and mysterious. they dont say openly if its the Americans or Indians or Saudis but these "angry brothers" have ample load of these specialised weapons and ammo to take on the army head on. have you seen that picture of "improved" Zarar tank? what short work did their anti tank weapon did to it.


its an open secret that their source of funding is Saudis and UAE, rest is through extortion and bank robberies as far as the weapon supplies is concerned thats really mind boggling. the huge size and the continuation of such supplies has been kept intact and secure through out the conflict and it shows how helpless we are in disrupting them.

apple and orange comparisons are made again by born again anchors and politicians
saying Americans are talking to taliban so why shouldnt we?

forgetting the fact that Americans are occupiers, talking to deposed taliban who are fighting an invader.
whereas TTP doesnt recognise state of Pakistan, its constitution and its chief Justice. it uses talks to regroup and reorganise and does what it did in Mohmand and Sawat.

Sorry Sir TTP guys are not being funded by either Saudis nor from UAE Sir first of all they are getting local support because your army went into that area and about Al Khalid II I have a question when was work on this Tank started and is it progressing in right direction or we would have to go to some Chinese Tanks ? I mean Type 99 or may be the MBT 3000 the Tank in process of being produced