An Insight into Al-Khalid II MBT.

[Kompromat]

Cant wait for this beast to roll out.

 

[KNIGHT-RIDER]

hope aKii employ main gun of 120mm then only it stand a chance among her enemy ARJUN which field 120mm rifiled gun.
125mm gun's are too weak for heavy weight tanks like Arjun,leopad,M1A1....

 

[TaimiKhan]

hope aKii employ main gun of 120mm then only it stand a chance among her enemy ARJUN which field 120mm rifiled gun.
125mm gun's are too weak for heavy weight tanks like Arjun,leopad,M1A1....

125mm gun means a larger caliber shell compared to a 120mm barrel can accommodate.

The power of the gun is its firing mechanism, how much higher velocity it has and off course the ammo matters too.

125mm gun can take care of its target, provided it has the punch.

 

[Rain]

I want it rock n roll in Thar next year.

 

[araz]

I want it rock n roll in Thar next year.

Is this a tank or some HIJRA performing a mujra in Thar desert. Bhai, we need to be realistic and let the item mature. Only then will we know its capabilities.
Araz

 

[KNIGHT-RIDER]

125mm gun means a larger caliber shell compared to a 120mm barrel can accommodate.

The power of the gun is its firing mechanism, how much higher velocity it has and off course the ammo matters too.

125mm gun can take care of its target, provided it has the punch.

sir if thats the case why all western tank like leopad,m1a1 use 120mm instead of 125mm main gun.even in desert storm M1A1 defeated direct shot of some iraqi T72(125mm) was that case of low standard ammo

 

[TaimiKhan]

sir if thats the case why all western tank like leopad,m1a1 use 120mm instead of 125mm main gun.even in desert storm M1A1 defeated direct shot of some iraqi T72(125mm) was that case of low standard ammo

The change in caliber is due to the rivalry among the western block and the ex-USSR block.

NATO caliber is always different then they Ex-Russia or Warsaw pact countries.

West has 155mm caliber for heavy artillery or 203mm, Russia i believe used and uses 152mm caliber and another heavy one, Nato rifle rounds caliber is 5.45*45mm & 7.62*51mm, while USSR had 7.62*39mm round, USSR had 122mm howitzers, NATO had i believe the 105mm howitzers, NATO pistol caliber is 9*19mm, while Russia had 7.62*25mm for the TT pistols, everything was different, so that in case of war, if anyone captures enemy ammunition, they can't use it.

So due to this reason, Western block had 120mm caliber tank guns, while Russians went for the 125mm caliber.

That is the reason for the basic difference.

And yeah, why the 125mm guns could not penetrate western tanks while the 120mm could, western tech is superior, thus their barrels generates more velocity or power compared to russian ones, thus they were capable to defeat the T-72s, while T-72s couldn't.

Even leopard had initially a 105mm gun, plus other westerns tanks had the same caliber, which was changed to 120mm ones.




" By the end of the war the variety in tank designs was narrowed and the concept of the main battle tank emerged. After World War II, the race to increase caliber slowed. Slight increases were made between tank generations. In the West, guns of around 90 mm gave way to the ubiquitous 105 mm L7. This lasted a long while with a shift to 120 mm in the 1970s and 80s (the UK changed in the late 60s with their Chieftain tank). In the East, the 85 mm quickly yielded to the 100 mm and 115 mm gun, with the 125 mm caliber now standard. Most of the improvements were instead made in ammunition and fire control systems. "

 

[Kompromat]

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[mughaljee]

What is mean of Smooth Bore Barrel.
what kind of barrel in the earlier tanks.
what kind of difference or we can say technical edge in smooth bore barrel rather the ordinary one ?

 

[KNIGHT-RIDER]

What is mean of Smooth Bore Barrel.
what kind of barrel in the earlier tanks.
what kind of difference or we can say technical edge in smooth bore barrel rather the ordinary one ?

smooth bore is similar like a shot gun barrel,there no rotation of round in side the barrel thats why it called smooth bore .now a days smooth bore barrel comes with chrome plating to increase the self life of barrel .

some other version of tanks like British Chalenger & Indian Arjun tanks employ rifled barrel which is based on the principle of barrel of a rifle ,which rotates the shell in side the barrel thus increase the accuracy & range of projectile .

rifled barrel has main dis advantage is its short life compared to smooth barrel as there is more wear & tear in rifled barrel.

 

[TaimiKhan]

What is mean of Smooth Bore Barrel.
what kind of barrel in the earlier tanks.
what kind of difference or we can say technical edge in smooth bore barrel rather the ordinary one ?

In the below picture, you can see two barrels, one has been shown having grooves, this is rifled barrel, meaning there are grooves in it which give stabilization to the projectile at the time of firing by giving it a spin. If you see pistols or rifle pistols, all have lines going in them in circular motion.

While the other barrel is smooth, there are no grooves in them to give a spin to the projectile. Rather the stabilization is given to the projectiles by having stabilizing fins in the projectile which keep it at a steady direction towards the target.

Grooves inside the barrel

APFSDS:

POF made shells, both are fin stabilized projectiles.

 

[KNIGHT-RIDER]

In the below picture, you can see two barrels, one has been shown having grooves, this is rifled barrel, meaning there are grooves in it which give stabilization to the projectile at the time of firing by giving it a spin. If you see pistols or rifle pistols, all have lines going in them in circular motion.

While the other barrel is smooth, there are no grooves in them to give a spin to the projectile. Rather the stabilization is given to the projectiles by having stabilizing fins in the projectile which keep it at a steady direction towards the target.

Grooves inside the barrel

APFSDS:

POF made shells, both are fin stabilized projectiles.

sir then it means shell used in smooth bore cant be used in rifled bore & vice versa?
then it 'll be a logistical night mare for IA as they field T90 as well as Arjun tanks

 

[maverick1977]

@Gen-indian... i am Rolling on the floor at your onslaught... hahahahaha.... seems like you r mad because u have to come to pakistan on visit and lost your passport and now u r stick here...

Calm down dude, dont waste your emotions on minor things..

 

[MZUBAIR]

Very informative thread...........
Thanxs TaimiKhan & Black Blood

 

[Puremairmon]

DELETED As i was forced into trolling by a gentleman..Sorry guys..rush of blood..had to cool off..didn't notice "black blood was near..i respect tah gentle man