An endless clash of institutions in Pakistan; engineered?

[expert]

First Pak institutions need to investigate all candidates before election, at least from big parties. Most PTI MNA's will be disqualified under article 62 but we all know it will not be implemented. Which beg the question, is article 62 only used to remove elected PM to create instability?

If institutions can't do their work before election then why create chaos for next 5 years? Now they are warning Shehbaz Sharif for court case, why they don't prove it now so ECP can disqualify him before election is held next month? Why they will wait till he become PM? I don't think country can work like this if half the time PM is fighting cases in court when elected, otherwise he is fine.

That means the ECP isn't working like it should. However, they couldn't have DQ Nawaz in 2013 because they did not have the necessary information back then. Shehbaz Sharif has nothing that shows he is dishonest and won't be DQ under 62/63. He can be disqualified for being convicted of a serious offence, but that will have to be done by the NAB.

I agree when you say a PM can't work when he's taken to Court every few months but this was his own doing. He refused to be investigated any other way. The SC has mentioned all the reasons why they even entertained the petition in the first place. Had he let the Parliament investigate it wouldn't have reached the SC.

In essence, NAB should have dealt with it, but everyone knows NAB won't. The Supreme Court stepping in was a good option when there was visible miscarriage of justice by NAB and the rest of the accountability set up of the country.

 

[defence_analyst]

That means the ECP isn't working like it should. However, they couldn't have DQ Nawaz in 2013 because they did not have the necessary information back then. Shehbaz Sharif has nothing that shows he is dishonest and won't be DQ under 62/63. He can be disqualified for being convicted of a serious offence, but that will have to be done by the NAB.

I agree when you say a PM can't work when he's taken to Court every few months but this was his own doing. He refused to be investigated any other way. The SC has mentioned all the reasons why they even entertained the petition in the first place. Had he let the Parliament investigate it wouldn't have reached the SC.

In essence, NAB should have dealt with it, but everyone knows NAB won't. The Supreme Court stepping in was a good option when there was visible miscarriage of justice by NAB and the rest of the accountability set up of the country.

Iqama is old, if they didn't have information that means they are not working properly. Only corruption charges with in serving of 5 years should be used to DQ sitting PM. If not then wait for next election and don't give him permission to contest if they have found some decade old evidence against him.

Pakistan wasted year and half on this panama drama and at the end khoda pahar, nikala chuha who bhi mara huwa.

 

[expert]

Iqama is old, if they didn't have information that means they are not working properly. Only corruption charges with in serving of 5 years should be used to DQ sitting PM. If not then wait for next election and don't give him permission to contest if they have found some decade old evidence against him.

Pakistan wasted year and half on this panama drama and at the end khoda pahar, nikala chuha who bhi mara huwa.

Corruption is a criminal offence. Corruption will be punishable even if discovered 100 years after the fact. That's the law. Some offences to have a time limit but corruption isn't among those. The Supreme Court cannot disqualify someone for corruption--only for dishonesty.

The Iqama itself wasn't illegal or dishonest. The fact that Nawaz had undeclared assets was. The ECP did not know about the FZE company salary.

The Panama saga isn't over. It has just begun. Disqualification was just a first step. PML is trying to mislead you by making you think "khoda pahar, nikala chuha who bhi mara huwa." The Supreme Court has ordered NAB to file several references against Nawaz and his family. Only trial courts can give a guilty verdict in corruption, forgery and fraud cases--the SC believes that there is enough evidence to start a corruption trial and the chances are, Nawaz will be convicted along with his family and Ishaq Dar.

 

[defence_analyst]

Corruption is a criminal offence. Corruption will be punishable even if discovered 100 years after the fact. That's the law. Some offences to have a time limit but corruption isn't among those. The Supreme Court cannot disqualify someone for corruption--only for dishonesty.

The Iqama itself wasn't illegal or dishonest. The fact that Nawaz had undeclared assets was. The ECP did not know about the FZE company salary.

The Panama saga isn't over. It has just begun. Disqualification was just a first step. PML is trying to mislead you by making you think "khoda pahar, nikala chuha who bhi mara huwa." The Supreme Court has ordered NAB to file several references against Nawaz and his family. Only trial courts can give a guilty verdict in corruption, forgery and fraud cases--the SC believes that there is enough evidence to start a corruption trial and the chances are, Nawaz will be convicted along with his family and Ishaq Dar.

Iqama itself doesn't mean corruption or illegal then why DQ sitting PM? By the time NAB find him guilty next election will be few months away. I again ask why not wait till next election if they have found old evidence of corruption? So that NS in 2018 instead of contesting election, is fighting cases in courts or in jail.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

• It is illegal to hold a political office when you are actively collecting money from Oversea companies
  
  
• You have to sell your stake in that company or leave it. Before you get a clearance to stand in election you have to show to election comission of Pakistan that you do not have double interest (Jobs outside of Pakistan , Jobs in side Pakistan , or Financial stake in other entities like Banks , Companies) . If you lied about these then you are disqualified

• If you are not holding a Political Job in Pakistan then by all means get a work permit and work overseas. But while holding a political Job in Pakistan you can't hold a role overseas there is conflict of interest

• Pakistan is Paying politicians , so they can spend 100% commitment to service the people of Pakistan , they did not give you chance to be in power to make your companies overseas rich. All workers hired by Pakistan even PM have a job to do what is best for Pakistan and not their own "INTEREST companies, money deals etc"

 

[StraightShooter]

First they came for the Baloch
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Baloch

Then they came for the Gilgit-Baltistanis
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Gilgit-Baltistani

Then they came for the Bengalis
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Bengali

Then they came for the Mohajirs
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Mohajir

Then they came for the Sindhis
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Sindhi

Then they came for the Punjabis
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Punjabi

Then they came for me (Pashtun)
And there was no one left to speak for me


-- Feeling of Pashtuns towards the deep state in 2022

 

[expert]

Iqama itself doesn't mean corruption or illegal then why DQ sitting PM? By the time NAB find him guilty next election will be few months away. I again ask why not wait till next election if they have found old evidence of corruption? So that NS in 2018 instead of contesting election, is fighting cases in courts or in jail.

Lying on the ECP nomination form is illegal and dishonest. He lied about his assets. He was disqualified for being dishonest. The law is not political and does not wait for anybody.

 

[Rank]

 

[Musafir117]

First they came for the Baloch
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Baloch

Then they came for the Gilgit-Baltistanis
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Gilgit-Baltistani

Then they came for the Bengalis
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Bengali

Then they came for the Mohajirs
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Mohajir

Then they came for the Sindhis
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Sindhi

Then they came for the Punjabis
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Punjabi

Then they came for me (Pashtun)
And there was no one left to speak for me


-- Feeling of Pashtuns towards the deep state in 2022

Take this sxit to some other thread related with and stop trolling.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

So only 1 guy being held accountable is failure to you?

Guess you believe Rome was build in 1 day?

 

[StraightShooter]

Take this sxit to some other thread related with and stop trolling.

Team IK may be celebrating but those celebration would be short lived. Establishment works for no party except for themselves.