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A former australian prime minister belives that:


America's self-inflicted decline


Editor's Note: Malcolm Fraser is a former prime minister of Australia. For more from Fraser, visit Project Syndicate or follow it on Facebook and Twitter.

By Malcolm Fraser, Project Syndicate

MELBOURNE – If the broad post-World War II prosperity that has endured for six decades comes to an end, both the United States and Europe will be responsible. With rare exceptions, politics has become a discredited profession throughout the West. Tomorrow is always treated as more important than next week, and next week prevails over next year, with no one seeking to secure the long-term future. Now the West is paying the price.

President Barack Obama’s instincts may be an exception here, but he is fighting powerful hidebound forces in the United States, as well as a demagogic populism, in the form of the Tea Party, that is far worse – and that might defeat him in 2012, seriously damaging America in the process.

America’s friends around the world watched with dismay the recent brawl in over raising the federal government’s debt ceiling, and the U.S. Congress’s inability to come to anything like a balanced and forward-looking compromise. On the contrary, the outcome represents a significant victory for the Tea Party’s minions, whose purpose seems to be to reduce government obligations and expenditures to a bare minimum (some object even to having a central bank), and to maintain President George W. Bush’s outrageous tax breaks for the wealthy.

America’s current fiscal problems are rooted in a long period of unfunded spending. Bush’s wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the manner in which he conducted the “global war on terror” made matters much worse, contributing to a totally unsustainable situation. Indeed, Obama inherited an almost impossible legacy.

In the weeks since the debt ceiling agreement, it has become increasingly clear that good government might be impossible in the U.S. The coming months of campaigning for the US presidency will be spent in petty brawling over what should be cut. The example of recent weeks gives us no cause for optimism that U.S. legislators will rise above partisan politics and ask themselves what is best for America.

In these circumstances, it is not surprising that financial markets have returned to extreme volatility. The expenditure cuts mandated by the outcome of the debt-ceiling debate will reduce economic activity, thereby undermining growth and making debt reduction even more difficult. Providing further fiscal stimulus to boost economic growth would carry its own risks, owing to the debt ceiling and another, more ominous factor: America is already overly indebted, and there are signs that major holders of U.S. government securities are finally tired of being repaid in depreciated currency.

Most importantly, China’s call for the introduction of a new reserve currency stems from its frustration with the failure of major governments – whether in the U.S. or Europe – to govern their economic affairs with realism and good sense. China recognizes that America is in great difficulty (indeed, it recognizes this more clearly than the U.S. itself), and that, given the poisonous political atmosphere prevailing in Washington, there will be no easy return to good government, economic stability, and strong growth.

America’s leadership in world affairs began to weaken with the unilateralism of Bush, and today’s economic problems are reinforcing this tendency. To reverse America’s decline, Obama needs bipartisan support for his (quite mainstream) policies, but so far the U.S. Congress has shown no stomach for a principled approach to its legislative duties.

If Germany’s half-hearted efforts to stabilize Europe somehow turn out to be successful, America’s position will be further eroded, and central banks around the world will begin to regard the euro once again as a reliable alternative to the dollar as a reserve currency. The alternative, as China has suggested, would be to develop a new reserve currency.

These realities represent a power shift of a kind that we have not experienced in our lifetimes. China’s economic power over the U.S. is now substantial, and will limit not only America’s influence in the financial markets, but also its capacity to use military power.

If this forces America back towards what the international-relations scholar Joseph Nye calls “soft power and multilateral diplomacy,” it may well be a good thing. But such approaches are anathema to the U.S. Republican Party, and to its Tea Party faction in particular, and they might unnerve the many Asians who are nervous at China’s growing military might.

The counter-argument – that any sell-off or failure by China to continue to buy U.S. government securities would hurt China as much as America – is not valid. As each year passes, China’s markets expand worldwide, and its domestic market comes to represent a greater percentage of its own GDP. As a result, China will not need a strong dollar in the long term. Americans need to get their economic house in order before China loses its incentive to support the dollar.

On several occasions in the post-WWII period, the U.S. has learned with great pain that there are limits to the effective use of military power. American objectives could not be achieved in Vietnam. The outcome in Iraq will not be determined until the last American troops have been withdrawn. In Afghanistan, where withdrawal dates have already been set, it is difficult to believe that a cohesive unified state can be established.

As the efficacy of military power is reduced, so the importance of economic power grows. Recognition of these central realities – and bipartisanship in addressing them – is critical for America’s future, and that of the West.

The views expressed in this article are solely those of Malcolm Fraser.
 
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Its 100 % self inflicted ... I mean only an idiot would waste 20 Trillion dollars to capture a sheep hearder who is allegedly some head of organization with a 13 inch tv and can't operate remote control
 
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Aryan, this has been reposted by me.
A suggestion to everyone who repost (myself included) Please, we should all have the courtesy to post a link to the source. I have done so here for the article above.
America
 
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Even their own former leaders are now pointing it out.

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Aryan, this has been reposted by me.
A suggestion to everyone who repost (myself included) Please, we should all have the courtesy to post a link to the source. I have done so here for the article above.
America

Sorry mate point taken
 
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Even their own former leaders are now pointing it out.

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Sorry mate point taken

[http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/fraser2/English]America[/url] Tech problems made a liar of me. Thanx Aryan. I think about your posts much more than my responces show. Again, thank Murphy in part for that.
It increasingly seems to me that the Chinese are the sanest people on the planet.
 
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there are a lot of threads related to american decline..which one is correct and when U.S will collapse?
 
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there are a lot of threads related to american decline..which one is correct and when U.S will collapse?
It is a buffet table of such. According to one Russian 'academic', we were supposed to 'collapse' back in Jun-Jul 2010 and everyone here jumped on that bandwagon. If it did happened, we Americans certainly were not notified.
 
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I reckon within the next 5 to 10 years but thats just my opinion
But do you think it is wise to make such an opinion when the sorry history of such opinions is staring at you in the face?
 
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[http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/fraser2/English]America[/url] Tech problems made a liar of me. Thanx Aryan. I think about your posts much more than my responces show. Again, thank Murphy in part for that.
It increasingly seems to me that the Chinese are the sanest people on the planet.

I think you are right I have a lot of time for the chinese people
 
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But do you think it is wise to make such an opinion when the sorry history of such opinions is staring at you in the face?

Time will tell but I am entitled to my opinion, i think the tipping point will be when the US$ falls out of favour as reserve currency. Thats why bernaskewhatsisname is reluctant to launch a third waive of quantitive easing.

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america will remain among top 3 economies till 2035..dont know next.
so chance of their collapse is null

Under the normal circumstances I would agree with you. But the fall will more drastic when reserve currency status goes that hides a lot of problems
 
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Time will tell but I am entitled to my opinion, i think the tipping point will be when the US$ falls out of favour as reserve currency. Thats why bernaskewhatsisname is reluctant to launch a third waive of quantitive easing.
Never said you are not. But just because you can do <something> that does not mean you should. That is rationality, no? So when you are faced with a historical trend of a behavior, is it your intention to add your own to that history, or is it to avoid the embarrassment of that inclusion? I would rationally -- not.
 
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Never said you are not. But just because you can do <something> that does not mean you should. That is rationality, no? So when you are faced with a historical trend of a behavior, is it your intention to add your own to that history, or is it to avoid the embarrassment of that inclusion? I would rationally -- not.

If you were to send me your email by private I will pass you my hsbc bank managers details who will confirm i predicted the current financial crisis in mid to late 2006 and made money from doing so. Last 6 months have been working on ways to make money from US$ going down the drain he will confirm that to you too
 
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If you were to send me your email by private I will pass you my hsbc bank managers details who will confirm i predicted the current financial crisis in mid to late 2006 and made money from doing so. Last 6 months have been working on ways to make money from US$ going down the drain he will confirm that to you too
Yeah...People gambled on the stock market and made money. Big freaking deal.
 
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