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America's only Muslim-majority city welcomes Syrian refugees

Well sir, it is our duty to help them and I'm sure if you and your family were in any trouble you would ask for the same.



You've already insulted calling me some shia group. I never told you i was using IP, I'm on telenor. Like I said, meet me face to face like a man at the above address. Otherwise keep your coward comments to yourself. I've no interest in net-warriors!
Sir we have fulfilled our duty havent we? We despite being a third world country have hosted the worlds largest refugee population for about 30 years now! How many refugees did the Arab states take in? If helping them is our duty then shouldnt our duty be to help pakistanis first who are in poverty? We should help our people first and then others!
 
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Man niqab's look so dehumanizing :sick: Uncomfortable too.

Why anyone without would want to wear that is beyond me.

At least with a Hijab you can see a girl's face...
 
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Clear extremism there, unusual for a Bareilvi since the jamaat is more focused on Anti- Deobandi and Anti-Shia ideals. They do have their anti-wahabbi issues but the Takfiriat is common; as them and the Wahabbis, the Deobandis have the secondary task of declaring each other kafir.. as you show clearly... a far deviation from the original teachings

Were you not the one who said he in another thread you want to know where I live and sort me out personally. The coward in you, blocked me from that thread and later you deleted your post. PDF viewers saw the post. Now I've given you my home address and what I look like and all you're doing is talking.

I will answer the following question to educate the masses.

Our issues with Qadiyannies are aqeedah. Declared Kafir by the Ulima Ikram against your leader who died on the toilet and those who follow him.
Our issues with Deobandi are aqeedah. In actions they follow Hanafi fiqha - Declared Kafir. Ashraf Ali Thanvi and his followers did khustahi rasool as'salaathu was'salaam
Our issie with Shia are aqeedah and actions. Mufti Arfansha Mashwadi - Brelvi declares them ALL Kafir.
Our Issues with Wahabbi and all branches of them are aqeedah. Declared Kafir.
Our issues with Madoudis are aqeedah- declared deviants and some call them ALL out KAFIR.
Our Issues with Tahir-ul-qadri are aqeeda - declared kafir for saying ALL will go to jannah including Hindus, Sikah, Athiests, Christians - everyone!

However, I am still not convinced; you are working too hard to dispel Hizb-ut-Tahrir

Don't care what a kafir qadiyani like you thinks. Like I said HT are wahabbie and we differ on grounds of aqeedah. Wahabbies believe a non-Qurashi can be a Khalif and we disagree with that. We believe in peaceful transition to Sharia, they believe in violence like TTP.

ALL Muslims (not hypocrites) want to be ruled by Sharia; the wahabi, deobandi, shia and all agree on Sharia. The Quran is Sharia. Reject it and you're a kafir!

claims to hate the Wahabbis has no interest in stopping them from spreading in his hometown

As I'm here and our ulema ikram are available to debate ANYONE to stop the spread of false beliefs.

Mirpuris(who incidentally are not considered Kashmiris by the people of the valley itself for some reason better known to Kashmiris)

No one says this except for Hindustanis and from now on I will treat you like one of them. Hypocrites and traitors of Pakistan; WE'LL never accept Hindu rule! Try selling us to them and like I said dog, you know where I live and come and meet me in person!

Funny how you feel humiliated based on an online forum where your existence is based upon 10101001's residing in a few servers when communicating with people based on 101010111 who are themselves 10110011.

Unlike you who is a kafir, I take my faith seriouly and will NOT allow anyone to call me a wahabbie and question my aqeedah. That's the difference between a believer who guards his aqeedah and the hypcrites care not.

So its Mirpur, "Abdullah" in the black pagri(as if there arent a hundred in Mirpur like that).. will have to dig deeper.

More excuses! There are people on here from Mirpur and you're are a liar. COWARD! Only the Ulema IKram wear the black pagri but not the young. I'm in my 30s, so come and meet me. Stop making excuses, tell me when and where in Mirpur!

Internet coward!

Sir we have fulfilled our duty havent we? We despite being a third world country have hosted the worlds largest refugee population for about 30 years now! How many refugees did the Arab states take in? If helping them is our duty then shouldnt our duty be to help pakistanis first who are in poverty? We should help our people first and then others!

Unlike the Arabs of today, we have humanity and we're ashiq e rasool as'salaathu was'salaam. Allah will reward us and increase our rizq by helping the destitute. Bhai jaan, no one is saying not to help those in our country, we should but we should not forget about others.
 
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Man niqab's look so dehumanizing :sick: Uncomfortable too.

Why anyone without would want to wear that is beyond me.

At least with a Hijab you can see a girl's face...

True.. Place will turn into a ghetto now.
 
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Are we supposed to be proud that it is Muslim majority? When Muslims are in masses, but masses of useless idiots who have embarrassing behavior or are total hypocrites. Majority of Muslims nowadays are idiots or hypocrites. They put on a religious face just to get a reputation so they can look down on other people yet their actions go against Islam. Such people should not be allowed to preach Islam at all, actually Muslims in general in non-Muslim countries should not try spreading Islam until they solve the problem within their community. That problem is their people cherry pick laws of religion or violate many of them yet somehow believe God loves them if they try converting others. Like Prophet Muhammad(SAW) did, he worked on his own people. He only had several dozen followers of Islam in the beginning yet he put so much effort and time making sure they don't end up like how modern Muslims are.

And then we have Muslims in Europe who have miserable behavior and are responsible for majority of crime. Yet nobody in the community seems to be wanting to change that. Therefore we shouldn't be proud at all that Muslim demographics are increasing in the West. Because that's not the goal in life according to Islam, what's the point of having so many Muslims when majority of them are hypocrites(in religious sense, meaning they don't follow almost all the rules but constantly bring up their 'Muslim' identity)? I don't want a world like that. It tells me Muslims only care about material gains and hence they sincere towards God. I'd take a few dozen companions of the Prophet over the 1.6 billion trash Muslims we have today.

As far as refugees, most of the people trying to get into EU are not Syrians but normal people just wanting citizenship. They are ruining it for Syrians. The true refugees are ones living in camps in neighboring countries. Either way the solution isn't running to EU or US. It is very fishy that people doing everything to get into West rather than any other destination. That tells me the people are probably wealthy seculars who want to live Western lifestyle. And then the Jews will encourage this because they want Christian whites to become minority. If Muslims can't see the plan Jews have then they are doomed. Thank God I'm an Palestinian that understands what's going on here.

Let me be honest with you, I hate being around Muslims nowadays. I also hate the immoral lifestyle everyone is living but I harsher towards Muslims. Because I was taught Muslims are the people who are not supposed to indulge in morality yet in the Muslim community there is immorality, jealousy, drama, cliques, etc...such low standards we have that I don't want to see any Muslim anymore besides some close people. I just go pray Friday prayer and get out. It's sad what Muslims have become today, they didn't keep up with the promise we made to God. And no wonder God is about to punish us immensely, we have yet to see anything.

You mentioned some good points about hypocrites and there are many sell their religion for money. We in the land of the pure can only read and go on hear-say about the Muslims living in Christendom. They've become like the non-Muslim actions.

If people don't like living in Christendom, then do Hijra to a Muslim country. Our country is one of the best in protecting rights to worship, no one will force the Nikab off, Azan 5 times, total freedom, right to carry a gun (to follow sunnah as'salaathu was'salaam), wear Islmi lebaz without any problems. Even though our gormant is not Islami, we have Islami taleem, in Madaris. We have a strong army masha'Allah that is our sheild. Btw, they're our brothers, they're ALL Muslaman :) No harassment, just salaam, no one insults you like in Zionist Occupied Palestine, or in Hindustan.

This is the best country to be after Makkah and Madina.
 
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True.. Place will turn into a ghetto now.

It was an old Polish ghetto before it welcomed the present wave of immigrants. They will all assimilate and move out as they climb up the ladder over a few generations as all immigrants did before them.
 
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You mentioned some good points about hypocrites and there are many sell their religion for money. We in the land of the pure can only read and go on hear-say about the Muslims living in Christendom. They've become like the non-Muslim actions.

If people don't like living in Christendom, then do Hijra to a Muslim country. Our country is one of the best in protecting rights to worship, no one will force the Nikab off, Azan 5 times, total freedom, right to carry a gun (to follow sunnah as'salaathu was'salaam), wear Islmi lebaz without any problems. Even though our gormant is not Islami, we have Islami taleem, in Madaris. We have a strong army masha'Allah that is our sheild. Btw, they're our brothers, they're ALL Muslaman :) No harassment, just salaam, no one insults you like in Zionist Occupied Palestine, or in Hindustan.

This is the best country to be after Makkah and Madina.

Don't use term Christendom, it is offensive to Christians. :)
 
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Muslims now outnumber non-Muslims in Hamtramck, a city which was once made up of 90 per cent Polish Catholic. ONLINE

The only majority Muslim city in the US has welcomed Syrian refugees with open arms while the rest of America agonises over the security implications of taking in refugees fleeing from the horrors of Islamic State (IS).

Muslims now outnumber non-Muslims in Michigan’s Hamtramck, a city which was once made up of 90 per cent Polish Catholic, and transformed by successive waves of immigrants from Bangladesh, Yemen and Bosnia.

Republican Trump calls for database to track US Muslims

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The latest additions to the burgeoning ethnic mix are 33 Syrians, all Muslim families with young children who fled their country’s brutal civil war.

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Their arrival comes amid a national debate in the US over the risks of allowing refugees into the country who could be secret IS militants, plotting Paris-style terror attacks.

Republican candidates Donald Trump and Ben Carson want tougher monitoring of Muslims, while Michigan governor, Rick Snyder was the first of 31 governors who vowed to stop more Syrians coming to their states.



Hamtramck, aptly nicknamed ‘The world within two square miles’, is home to 22,000 people and its officials insist fears are overblown, adding that their doors remain open.

Thaer Hoshan, 40, fled Syria in 2012 with his pregnant wife Dalal, 37, and their five children, Shouk, 13, Shahed, 12, Rania, 10, Fadi, nine, and four-year-old Abdul-Hadi.



Recalling his story, he said his southern hometown of Daraa was one of the first to come under siege from Assad’s forces, who would shell civilians and burst into homes to slaughter men and rape women.

Without running water, power or access to schools, they escaped into Jordan where they say the UN put them through a 19-month vetting process before they could move to the US in August.

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Once in the US, they were amazed t0 find many of the comforts and customs they enjoyed in the Middle East, from Arabic-speaking neighbours to bustling halal restaurants and shops stocked with Islamic gifts and fashion.

“Coming to the US was very nerve-racking. I had never heard of Michigan, let alone Hamtramck,” Hoshan said.

“I had no idea what to expect but once I got here I was surprised at how comfortable it felt. There is a mosque on the corner, most of the people speak our language. This place feels like home,” he added.

‘Unprecedented’ rise in anti-Muslim backlash in US post Paris attacks

Hoshan also said that he had never heard of the IS group or their crimes until he fled Syria. ”We are not a threat to anyone,” he said.

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As latest census figures, put Muslims at a majority of 51 per cent, the Polish community, which was once the majority, now only makes up 11 per cent of the community. The Arab population stands at 23 per cent, Bangladeshis at 19 per cent and Bosnians and other Muslims at around nine per cent.

With the city now being home to an assortment of Bengali restaurants, food markets and boutiques selling sequined Muslim gowns, headscarves and veils including the niqab; members of the Polish community have moved away.



However, those who have stayed behind accuse Muslims landlords of letting vacant properties fall into disrepair or renting our properties while doing little to maintain them.

Would consider closing some US mosques: Donald Trump

“People here used to be fanatical about looking after their homes, shoveling the snow, cutting the grass, that sort of thing,” said Bernice Kurzawa, 84, who has called Hamtramck home for the past six decades.

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“They are all renters now, they don’t care. Some of the women wear outfits where you can only see the eyes. The shops are all shutting because the Arabs eat their own food,” she added.

Another local, Barbara Zielinska, 60, said she feels ‘unsettled’ by groups of young Arab men congregating late at night, saying “We have an invasion of Muslims here now, I’m not afraid to say what needs to be said.”

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Many also remain highly suspicious of what they call a ‘Sharia takeover’ or a ‘Muslim takeover’. Senior citizens in particular, have complained about being woken up each day by the 6:00am call to prayer.

Others; however, have been far more accommodating to Muslims and have been welcoming to Syrian refugees.

“We owe it to these people to ensure they don’t suffer a minute longer,” said Imam, an engineer who came to the US from Damascus nearly 40 years ago.

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“When I heard they were coming here I took one of my vacant properties off the market just to make more room for them. These guys are not terrorists, they don’t want money – they want opportunity. And who are we to close the door on them? Who is Donald Trump to close the door on them?” he added.

PHOTOS: BRYAN WOOLSTON for Daily Mail

This article originally appeared on Mail Online.

America's only Muslim-majority city welcomes Syrian refugees - The Express Tribune


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Hope the remaining Polish folks leave the city in peace. :)
 
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Are we supposed to be proud that it is Muslim majority? When Muslims are in masses, but masses of useless idiots who have embarrassing behavior or are total hypocrites. Majority of Muslims nowadays are idiots or hypocrites. They put on a religious face just to get a reputation so they can look down on other people yet their actions go against Islam. Such people should not be allowed to preach Islam at all, actually Muslims in general in non-Muslim countries should not try spreading Islam until they solve the problem within their community. That problem is their people cherry pick laws of religion or violate many of them yet somehow believe God loves them if they try converting others. Like Prophet Muhammad(SAW) did, he worked on his own people. He only had several dozen followers of Islam in the beginning yet he put so much effort and time making sure they don't end up like how modern Muslims are.

And then we have Muslims in Europe who have miserable behavior and are responsible for majority of crime. Yet nobody in the community seems to be wanting to change that. Therefore we shouldn't be proud at all that Muslim demographics are increasing in the West. Because that's not the goal in life according to Islam, what's the point of having so many Muslims when majority of them are hypocrites(in religious sense, meaning they don't follow almost all the rules but constantly bring up their 'Muslim' identity)? I don't want a world like that. It tells me Muslims only care about material gains and hence they sincere towards God. I'd take a few dozen companions of the Prophet over the 1.6 billion trash Muslims we have today.

As far as refugees, most of the people trying to get into EU are not Syrians but normal people just wanting citizenship. They are ruining it for Syrians. The true refugees are ones living in camps in neighboring countries. Either way the solution isn't running to EU or US. It is very fishy that people doing everything to get into West rather than any other destination. That tells me the people are probably wealthy seculars who want to live Western lifestyle. And then the Jews will encourage this because they want Christian whites to become minority. If Muslims can't see the plan Jews have then they are doomed. Thank God I'm an Palestinian that understands what's going on here.

Let me be honest with you, I hate being around Muslims nowadays. I also hate the immoral lifestyle everyone is living but I harsher towards Muslims. Because I was taught Muslims are the people who are not supposed to indulge in morality yet in the Muslim community there is immorality, jealousy, drama, cliques, etc...such low standards we have that I don't want to see any Muslim anymore besides some close people. I just go pray Friday prayer and get out. It's sad what Muslims have become today, they didn't keep up with the promise we made to God. And no wonder God is about to punish us immensely, we have yet to see anything.

I couldn't have said it better. Looking around Muslim majority neighbourhoods gives a good indication of how far back the community is. All you see is dirt, crime, lack of ambition, ignorance and an appalling lack of manners. To say there is work to be done is an understatement.
 
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I couldn't have said it better. Looking around Muslim majority neighbourhoods gives a good indication of how far back the community is. All you see is dirt, crime, lack of ambition, ignorance and an appalling lack of manners. To say there is work to be done is an understatement.

All you see in a ghetto is dirt, crime, lack of ambition, ignorance and an appalling lack of manners, regardless of the religion of those who live there.
 
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