American imperialism and ruthlessness masquerading as freedom and democracy.

[gambit]

At this point, I think you’re just vomiting words. I’d be embarrassed if I were you.

At this point, you should be embarrassed that you used 'nuances' without knowing what the word really mean.

 

[nahtanbob]

When white have left America back to where they come from .. Europe.


People go for the same reason you whites left Ireland and Britain initially. Persecution and rich pastures. Why have you forgotten that

If you can stop people from visiting Israel you can stop people from visiting America

 

[Trango Towers]

If you can stop people from visiting Israel you can stop people from visiting America

Oh dear.

 

[tower9]

At this point, you should be embarrassed that you used 'nuances' without knowing what the word really mean.

Considering how absolutist your views are, it’s clear that you have no understanding of what that word means. It is absolutely comedic how you keep throwing it around all the while using it in the wrong context. Kind of summarizes your whole presence in this forum, a lot of form, little substance and intellectually dishonest to the core.

 

[jamal18]

So when will people stop coming to America?

When it runs out of money.

 

[gambit]

Considering how absolutist your views are, it’s clear that you have no understanding of what that word means. It is absolutely comedic how you keep throwing it around all the while using it in the wrong context. Kind of summarizes your whole presence in this forum, a lot of form, little substance and intellectually dishonest to the core.

noun

1. a subtle difference in or shade of meaning, expression, or sound.

Just answer the question: Why is John Oliver a US citizen?

1. The US is an 'evil' country, but then why people STILL come to America?
2. The US is a 'good' country, that is why people are STILL coming to America.

No one can separate the two in each statement. You guys think it is credible that we can discuss the nature of US as a standalone issue, but Reality will not allow it. Reality is people observing and living. Then use their experience to question claims.

Peter Jennings (ABC News) and John Roberts (Fox News) are not ignorant rubes. Both are Canadians, educated, and experienced in interviewing people of all ideological/political persuasions. And both VOLUNTARILY became US citizens.

Is that 'nuanced' enough for you? I guess no one over at the various Marxist web sites can come up with a credible explanation for you to copy/paste over here?

 

[Azadkashmir]

usa has advantage it prints money out of thin air to fund itself and get labour and goods from other countries in return they get a paper. petro dollar. all wars are for gangster bankers like rothschild, jacob schiff, warburgs, morgens. other countries should get rid of central bank make state bank and print their own currency.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

noun

1. a subtle difference in or shade of meaning, expression, or sound.

Just answer the question: Why is John Oliver a US citizen?

1. The US is an 'evil' country, but then why people STILL come to America?
2. The US is a 'good' country, that is why people are STILL coming to America.

No one can separate the two in each statement. You guys think it is credible that we can discuss the nature of US as a standalone issue, but Reality will not allow it. Reality is people observing and living. Then use their experience to question claims.

Peter Jennings (ABC News) and John Roberts (Fox News) are not ignorant rubes. Both are Canadians, educated, and experienced in interviewing people of all ideological/political persuasions. And both VOLUNTARILY became US citizens.

Is that 'nuanced' enough for you? I guess no one over at the various Marxist web sites can come up with a credible explanation for you to copy/paste over here?

You really don't want to go there, do you?
You should answer it yourself... why are you here first! Born or brought?
Born then who got here and why ... of course greener pastures or political upheaval in the native lands... others? brought! to plough the plantations... It remains true today as ever... masses from all over seeking perhaps a better future as their wealth is drained in their own towns and villages with fiat currencies pegged to dollar, only debasing the worth of their travails or assets.

Here is more...
It will only snow ball!
More will come!
more and more people, seeking greener pastures... for them the rust belt is meaningless and masses here who drop out of full time employment... disgruntled, disenfranchised or simply unable to keep up with the grind...
For them(the new comers), the dream is sold on time square and glitter of NYC, Miami, Vegas and LA.

So, yes no one will stop coming till it reaches point of saturation or their situation improves in their own environs, in their native setting.

 

[tower9]

noun

1. a subtle difference in or shade of meaning, expression, or sound.

Just answer the question: Why is John Oliver a US citizen?

1. The US is an 'evil' country, but then why people STILL come to America?
2. The US is a 'good' country, that is why people are STILL coming to America.

No one can separate the two in each statement. You guys think it is credible that we can discuss the nature of US as a standalone issue, but Reality will not allow it. Reality is people observing and living. Then use their experience to question claims.

Peter Jennings (ABC News) and John Roberts (Fox News) are not ignorant rubes. Both are Canadians, educated, and experienced in interviewing people of all ideological/political persuasions. And both VOLUNTARILY became US citizens.

Is that 'nuanced' enough for you? I guess no one over at the various Marxist web sites can come up with a credible explanation for you to copy/paste over here?

You seem to think that because I find our political machinery and foreign policy evil that somehow I think “America is Evil” durr. Are you a dumbass? This is what I mean when I say that you are an absolutist with absolutely no ability to understand nuance.

The American people are not evil, in fact most are great people. I am American. My ethnicity is Chinese by blood but in fact culturally I’m American through and through. However there are certainly many evil elements among the American political class who use their power to commit immense evil globally. I’ve seen it with my own eyes.

So no I’m not interested in talking about some goofy duck faced Brit. If you want to continue gaslighting and avoid the actual topic then stop wasting my fucking time dummy.

 

[onebyone]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1612908057104908293

 

[gambit]

You seem to think that because I find our political machinery and foreign policy evil that somehow I think “America is Evil” durr. Are you a dumbass? This is what I mean when I say that you are an absolutist with absolutely no ability to understand nuance.

The American people are not evil, in fact most are great people. I am American. My ethnicity is Chinese by blood but in fact culturally I’m American through and through. However there are certainly many evil elements among the American political class who use their power to commit immense evil globally. I’ve seen it with my own eyes.

So no I’m not interested in talking about some goofy duck faced Brit. If you want to continue gaslighting and avoid the actual topic then stop wasting my fucking time dummy.

So our 'evil' foreign policy is based on what the MIC want. Yeah...Real 'nuance' there...

 

[tower9]

So our 'evil' foreign policy is based on what the MIC want. Yeah...Real 'nuance' there...

Youre denying the power that special lobbies have in fabricating wars for profit? You’re either blind, dumb or just a liar. My money is on the last part.

 

[Goritoes]

One time someone from America told me, and it stuck with me to this day. America is neither good nor evil, everything America did or do or will do in future is for its own interest, It is as simple as that. America is not inherently good or evil, America invade countries because they can, they have the fire power/Financial Power/Political Power to do and face its consequences, that's it. America do regime changes because they can, they have the buying power for Politicians/Generals, America support Dictators when it suits them, America sanctions countries for been dictatorships when it suits them, America will continue to do so until another power comes along, and than if by that time we alive we will be calling that new Super Power evil and imperialist, America is a super Power that needs to keep its title of a super power, and you can't do that by just letting your allies go to your enemies court, nor you allow your allies countries to be overrun by others, because America's super power comes from its Military and economical power, they have military bases in every region, they can use these bases for spying, attacking etc

Personally I think America is neither evil nor good, people on the ground are good and they also disagree with many of their own Govt policies but unfortunately their voices are seldom heard or make a differences when it comes major policy matters, America has stopped many major conflicts around the world but started off many others, but it is the reality that America has failed to solve many world major geographical issues which they could easily, two of these issues they inherited from British Empire was Kashmir/Palestine, If America over the decades has solved these two issues by using its influence I would easily declare America to be the greatest country in last couple of centuries. But again, its not about people's sentiments , good or evil, justice or Liberty or any other fancy words, its all National Interests.

 

[tower9]

One time someone from America told me, and it stuck with me to this day. America is neither good nor evil, everything America did or do or will do in future is for its own interest, It is as simple as that. There is no inherently good or evil, America invade countries because they can, they have the fire power/Financial Power/Political Power to do and face its consequences, that's it.

So basically he’s a Realist.

Except it’s not that simple and it’s because of the way the US govt is structured. Many special lobby groups are able to have disproportionate sway over political power and they will manipulate and create policy that benefits their narrow special interests over that of the nation.

 

[Goritoes]

So basically he’s a Realist.

Except it’s not that simple and it’s because of the way the US govt is structured. Many special lobby groups are able to have disproportionate sway over political power and they will manipulate and create policy that benefits their narrow special interests over that of the nation.

Yeah, and so am I. And this is the reality of America, I know many Americans likes to use words like Freedom, Democracy , liberty blah blah but reality is that America do what's best in its and its allies interest because it has to maintain that hold over its allies to keep its Influence around the globe.
As for lobbying, yes they exists and everyone knows it and those Lobbies can only do so to a limit, The most powerful Lobby in USA is Jews and Israel's support, hence Israel can get away with War crimes, If America was standing out for Truth/Justice/Liberty they would've seen through the brutality of Israel that uses mostly America arms of civilians.

In America everyone talks about self defense, ask any American and he will give lecture on self defense and its importance, but i saw clip not long ago of White House Spokesman and some Journalist ask him that if Palestine has the right to self defense, and that poor guy cannot say yes lol he constantly say Israel has the right to self defense but his mouth was unable to utter the same words for Palestine, there are many such examples exists in this world. I personally don't care if a country is good or bad, I am personally good, do good to others and live a peaceful life and die in peace, I let God be the Judge Jury and executioner for us humans.