American girls mad over "Tharki" guys SECRETLY Loving Them

[LeGenD]

It’s not harassment.

But it is crude and in poor taste.

Not to mention hella immature.

No, it is not. I disagree.

Nobody has any right to judge me on the basis of how I evaluate women at personal capacity. My evaluation is not anybody else's business.

 

[Avicenna]

No, it is not. I disagree.

Nobody has any right to judge me on the basis of how I evaluate women at personal capacity. My evaluation is not anybody else's business.

This rating list at this school was crude and immature.

I’m not talking about you or your evaluation of women.

That being said, all straight men evaluate women in their own way.

Whether internally or verbalized.

It’s called being a man.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I suspect abuse of females is not unique to the West.

In my own life, I’ve met 2 desi girls who were raped.

By family or family friends.

I was shocked when I heard this.

It makes me think the identified and disclosed cases are just the tip of the iceberg.

Perhaps it’s just more visible and talked about in the West.

This is another issue, what the heck is a desi?

The word means simply countryman. If a Pakistani uses it, it only ever means Pakistani. It never refers to a non-Pakistani for us. Mostly it used for produce (Desi ande, desi murgee, desi ghayy) or to refer to country (Apna Des, Pardesi.)

Indians and BD use the term Deshi as in Bangladesh.

We are not similar in the least culturally with either. With Bd, we share only religion, hence 1971.

Bro, you are confusing flirting / innocent complements with outright sexual harassment.

Someone's private ranking list of women on the basis of their looks, represent harassment now. This is a bit much. Why not put the boys in a box while at it?

When you talk in a polite way, we will talk then.

Allah hafiz

 

[Sabretooth]

What would the Islamic rule of Prophet Muhammad saws and Khilafat Rashidun say about abusing the honor of females in this way?

It was even forbidden for any woman to describe another women to male.

What of males discussing sexual attributes of females?

As you said even women are not supposed to describe/discuss other people. It is strictly forbidden, at least in our deen.
It does not suit men, at all, to discuss other men/women. Men are supposed to engage in manly activities instead of wasting time in gossip.

 

[LeGenD]

This rating list at this school was crude and immature.

I’m not talking about you or your evaluation of women.

That being said, all straight men evaluate women in their own way.

Whether internally or verbalized.

It’s called being a man.

We are talking about teenagers with raging hormones here. What do you expect from them? Perfection and excellence in everything? Come on, friend.

I find this case a bit much. We are supposed to raise decent but confident boys.

The rating list in question was not supposed to be public, but leaked. If a boy had made this list and pinned it on school boards as a prank then I could see a problem. Try to understand the difference.

When you talk in a polite way, we will talk then.

Allah hafiz

It was not my intention to offend you, my apologies. See the highlighted point above.

 

[Avicenna]

We are talking about teenagers with raging hormones here. What do you expect from them? Perfection and excellence in everything? Come on, friend.

I find this case a bit much. We are supposed to raise decent but confident boys.

The rating list in question was not supposed to be public, but leaked. If a boy had made this list and pinned it on school boards as a prank then I could see a problem. Try to understand the difference.

Let me ask you.

Have you ever attended a US high school?

If you have, you will understand the level of degeneracy present.

I, myself have been no angel.

But I am just being real here.

 

[LeGenD]

Let me ask you.

Have you ever attended a US high school?

If you have, you will understand the level of degeneracy present.

I, myself have been no angel.

But I am just being real here.

You think that degeneracy is just an American problem?

I have been a part of both boys-exclusive and co-education environments. I have seen it all.

 

[Avicenna]

This is another issue, what the heck is a desi?

The word means simply countryman. If a Pakistani uses it, it only ever means Pakistani. It never refers to a non-Pakistani for us. Mostly it used for produce (Desi ande, desi murgee, desi ghayy) or to refer to country (Apna Des, Pardesi.)

Indians and BD use the term Deshi as in Bangladesh.

We are not similar in the least culturally with either. With Bd, we share only religion, hence 1971.



When you talk in a polite way, we will talk then.

Allah hafiz

I don’t get this movement to disassociate Pakistan with the Indian subcontinent.

As for the term desi, it means in the most general sense brown person from South Asia.

Yes that encompasses BD, IN, and PK.

You think that degeneracy is just an American problem?

I have been a part of both boys-exclusive and co-education environments. I have seen it all.

Maybe you have, I dunno.

I don’t know how bad it is outside of the US.

But all I can say is that American high school boys are anything but mature or refined.

This list is stupid.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I don’t get this movement to disassociate Pakistan with the Indian subcontinent.

As for the term desi, it means in the most general sense brown person from South Asia.

Yes that encompasses BD, IN, and PK.

Its not a movement, it is reality and the natural consequence of both 1947 and 1971.

Our culture, heritage, languages, and customs are closer to Afghanistan, Iran, and Turks than to India and BD.

No offense, but you are a completely different racial stock than us.

It was not my intention to offend you, my apologies. See the highlighted point above.

No worries brother. We can let it go for now.

 

[LeGenD]

Maybe you have, I dunno.

I don’t know how bad it is outside of the US.

But all I can say is that American high school boys are anything but mature or refined.

This list is stupid.

Very bad.

Boys can be very egotistical and stupid at times due to raging hormones (testosterone factor). Parents are responsible for 'grooming' them at home but this does not happen overnight - lot of hardwork involved.

Unfortunately, educational institutes are not into 'grooming' kids here. Famous ones such as Beaconhouse are busy in imparting secular values and scheduling parties. What would you expect?

The 'supposedly' private list in question here is nothing serious. Numerous Pakistani boys will have a good laugh about it.

 

[Avicenna]

Its not a movement, it is reality and the natural consequence of both 1947 and 1971.

Our culture, heritage, languages, and customs are closer to Afghanistan, Iran, and Turks than to India and BD.

No offense, but you are a completely different racial stock than us.



No worries brother. We can let it go for now.

I don’t think so.

I don’t know the proportions of the mixing or who exactly mixed with whom (Turks, Arabs, Persians) but all of South Asia has some mixing going on in various degrees.

Unless your straight up Dravidian or whatever the indigenous peoples were.

In terms of racial stock, Bangladesh has a mix of peoples though most are on the darker side.

You’re correct in that the proportions are different than for people in Pakistan but it’s a mixture nonetheless.

As for me, you would have no idea I was Bengali if I didn’t tell you.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I don’t think so.

I don’t know the proportions of the mixing or who exactly mixed with whom (Turks, Arabs, Persians) but all of South Asia has some mixing going on in various degrees.

Unless your straight up Dravidian or whatever the indigenous peoples were.

In terms of racial stock, Bangladesh has a mix of peoples though most are on the darker side.

You’re correct in that the proportions are different than for people in Pakistan but it’s a mixture nonetheless.

As for me, you would have no idea I was Bengali if I didn’t tell you.

There is nothing wrong to admit that we are different races, we need to come out of this false notion that it is wrong.

Pakistani race and Bangladeshi race are completely different, it is apparent to anyone. We have not much in common except we were on polar opposites of a great Muslim empire and one British India one.

Most Pakistanis are Iranic by race (Scythian, Parthian, Hephthalites) with a large mixture of Turk-Mongol (from Ghaznavi, Mughals, etc.) and some Arab (Muhammad bin Qasim's forces) who mostly replaced the Indo-Aryans and Graeco-Bactrians.

Our geographical heritage and part genetic hertiage, before migration of Iranics, is that of the Sindh river (Indus). In this way we were connected to ancient empires of Babylon, Persia, Greece, etc.

 

[Avicenna]

There is nothing wrong to admit that we are different races, we need to come out of this false notion that it is wrong.

Pakistani race and Bangladeshi race are completely different, it is apparent to anyone. We have not much in common except we were on polar opposites of a great Muslim empire and one British India one.

Most Pakistanis are Iranic by race (Scythian, Parthian, Hephthalites) with a large mixture of Turk-Mongol (from Ghaznavi, Mughals, etc.) and some Arab (Muhammad bin Qasim's forces) who mostly replaced the Indo-Aryans and Graeco-Bactrians.

Our geographical heritage and part genetic hertiage, before migration of Iranics, is that of the Sindh river (Indus). In this way we were connected to ancient empires of Babylon, Persia, Greece, etc.

I’m not saying it’s wrong that PK and BD are racially different.

It is neither wrong nor untrue.

But there is some degree of overlap in some individuals.

Proportionally I agree the vast majority are different.

But not all.

Case in point although it is largely anecdotal.

I myself come from a family where my paternal grandmother was from a Persian background however was born in West Bengal.

Maternally, I am not sure where my grandparents came from other than East Bengal, but my grand mother was extremely fair skinned.

As for me, I look more Pakistani than some Pakistanis.

That’s just me.

There are many other Bengali’s (mostly girls) that I know who you really couldn’t tell if they are Indian, Pakistani or Bangladeshi.

Again anecdotal.

But the point I’m making is that there is overlap and mixing of various ethnicities in various degrees all over South Asia.

 

[jamahir]

No matter now much they get objectified, sexualised and abused. They won't take hijab and cover themselves up rather, they will wear revealing dresses, get breast implants to make their tiny natural figure into big mammoths, then wear shortest mini skirt with low-neck shirt to flaunt their assets and spending but then claim "oh we have been objectified, boys are so bad" and then end up in bed with the same "bad boy"

Why is it always a binary to you - the burqa or the mini-skirt ??

By the way, the natural state of the body of women is to be chubby. It is fashion now to be thin.

 

[jamal18]

Why are these girls calling boys liking them "toxic culture"? It's the law of attraction in nature. It literally makes no sense what these girls are trying to say. How were they born, out of thin air??? It's a basic biology lesson, which I am sure they failed that class.

Why is the school punishing the boys for making a damn list? It's literally a harmless piece of paper with words stored on a mobile device. What's even worse is that they have scolded all of the hundreds of boys in the school and publicly shamed them. Isn't that gender bias and sexism?

A big storm over nothing. A manufactured crisis.

What's next, the girls seeking counselling?