American attack aftermath: Pakistan declares attack a 'plot'

[F.O.X]

Parliamentary Committee on National Security endorses Bonn Conference boycott

Parliamentary Committee on National Security endorses Bonn Conference boycott

ISLAMABAD: The Parliamentary Committee on National Security has endorsed the decision to boycott the Bonn Conference in protest against Nato attacks on Pakistani check posts, Geo News reported.

“No representative from Pakistan will be attending the conference," said Information Minister Firdous Ashiq Awan while speaking to the media.

The committee also endorsed the decisions to stop Nato supplies and asking the US to vacate the Shamsi airbase which were made during the meeting of the Defence Committee.

The meeting was held under the chairmanship of Senator Raza Rabbani and attended by the prime minister, federal ministers and representatives from prominent political parties.

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani briefed the participants about the Nato attack.

The prime minister said despite being contacted by numerous international leaders including German Chancellor Angela Merkel, the decision to boycott the Bonn Conference was in the interest of national security.

Gilani also briefed the committee on the decision to stop Nato supplies and asking the US to vacate Shamsi airbase.

DG Military Operations Ashfaq Nadeem also briefed the meeting about the Nato attack.

"DG Military Operations will brief the Federal Cabinet on the Nato attack on December 12," said Information Minister Firdous Ashiq Awan.

Parliamentary Committee on National Security endorses Bonn Conference boycott

 

[BATMAN]

Parliamentary Committee on National Security endorses Bonn Conference boycott

Parliament is bunch of hordes and memo gate hints, how foreign world particularly US value them.

 

[F.O.X]

Parliament is bunch of hordes and memo gate hints, how foreign world particularly US value them.

Well They do have to make decisions when Army is Standing behind them with a Gun on their head.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Bro can you think of ANY DAMNNED reason why foreign aircrafts were in PAK airspace AFTER ATTACKING PAKISTANI TROOPS and NOT ONE BLOODY AIRCRAFT could be mustered by PAF?

Just think.

And as if your boycotting the BONN CONFERENCE is end of the world .... who really does care about Pakistan? Play the devil and soon your *** will be on line too. Today no one is bothered if you have to be hit .... do you think anyone cares?

thanks for stating the obvious

anything thing else to tell us we dont know already? please do so in a way which is worth posting.
you know how much we care about the comments from the likes of you?

 

[BATMAN]

Well They do have to make decisions when Army is Standing behind them with a Gun on their head.

Than they are even more unworthy bastards but in today's free Pakistan, it is hard to believe what you said.

 

[Secur]

Bro can you think of ANY DAMNNED reason why foreign aircrafts were in PAK airspace AFTER ATTACKING PAKISTANI TROOPS and NOT ONE BLOODY AIRCRAFT could be mustered by PAF

And as if your boycotting the BONN CONFERENCE is end of the world .... who really does care about Pakistan? Play the devil and soon your *** will be on line too. Today no one is bothered if you have to be hit .... do you think anyone cares?

Yes i can , soldiers rely on orders from the high command which unfortunately wasn't given ... PAF again has to take orders from AHQ ... Nobody was allowed to retaliate so they didn't ... The same isn't the case now ...

And yeah if NATO has to stay in Afghanistan till 2014 and bring a face saving end to this conflict , they have to care what Pakistan says or does ... Over 40% of NATO supplies pass through Torkhum and Chaman ... You think this is a joke ? Russia has already started blackmailing USA over NDN for European missile defense shield ... NDN can only be kept operational until 2014 ( Russia doesn't support NATO presence in Afghanistan after 2014 ) ... Bon conference is meaningless without the participation of Pakistan ... Expect continuous civil war in Afghanistan if Pakistan refuses to co-operate ... Nobody cares about Pakistan yet foreign ministers of NATO countries are regularly calling their Pakistani counterparts and pleading for co-operation Denial mode isn't good for anyone ...

 

[F.O.X]

Than they are even more unworthy bastards but in today's free Pakistan, it is hard to believe what you said.

Who said they were worthy ? before this our Gov was Spokesperson of USA & Now they are Spokes person of Army , They are always on the side of whoever can make their life hell.

 

[F.O.X]

And as if your boycotting the BONN CONFERENCE is end of the world .... who really does care about Pakistan? Play the devil and soon your *** will be on line too. Today no one is bothered if you have to be hit .... do you think anyone cares?

No it is definitely not the end of the world , but it is definitely the end for a peaceful solution for Afg , it is definitely the end of indian hopes to invest & Control Afg , it is definitely an end to graceful withdrawal of US/NATO forces .

Today 60% of area is still under Taliban control & after US leaves it wont take much time before they comeback into power , it was Us who said that We will bring Taliban to discussion table so Karzai can live without fear of getting blown up after US leaves ,

There is no peaceful solution to Afg if Taliban are not on board , and there wont be any Taliban if Pakistan is not there .

so yes we are not important it is just that you cannot even Run from Afg if we dont open a path for you Remember that .

 

[Karachihunk]

This is not an open conventional war, we know this quite well. Niether the real purpose of the war is clear; for the actions that contradicts the words. So as such covert tactics should be responded with the counter-covert-tactics. I guess it’s more a nerve game, impatience or anxiety would be quite natural.

We, for sure, are at the brink of flip/flop.

 

[HANI]

Pakistan military ordered to return fire if attacked by Nato forces

Pakistan's military commanders have ordered their troops to return fire if they come under attack from Nato forces, raising the prospect of further deadly clashes along the country's border with Afghanistan.

General Ashfaq Kayani, Pakistan's army chief, gave the new order in response to the recent deaths of 24 soldiers when their border posts came under fire from Nato helicopters.

Kayani is under immense pressure from within his own ranks over the two-hour bombardment by the helicopters of an ally, to which the Pakistani air force did not respond. The incident piled further humiliation on a military still stung by the US special forces operation in May that killed Osama bin Laden deep inside Pakistan.

"I want to emphasise and leave no ambiguity in the rules of engagement for everyone down the chain of command," Kayani said in a letter to his troops.

"When under attack, you have full liberty of action to respond with all capabilities at your disposal. This will require no clearance at any level.

"I have very clearly directed that any act of aggression will be responded to with full force, regardless of the cost and consequences." (if anyone asks me, ill say that the bold part is the only thing which matters in this whole article)

The communique, issued in Urdu, will be read out by local commanders to their soldiers.

Kayani also said that the air force did not respond to the Nato attack "due to breakdown of communication with the affected posts".

The move effectively transforms the role of more than 100,000 Pakistan troops deployed along its western border from counterinsurgency to border protection duty.

The Nato attack happened on the border between the Afghan province of Kunar and the Mohmand part of Pakistan's tribal area. The border posts were 300 metres inside Pakistani territory.

Pakistan claims the attack was "unprovoked" and continued even after it alerted Nato to the fact that its post was coming under fire.

US officials have claimed a combined Afghan and US special forces squad operating close to the border came under fire from suspected militants on the Pakistani side, and that they responded by calling in air support.

But a senior Pakistani military officer said US officials supplied the wrong co-ordinates for the proposed strike, and then launched the attack "without getting clearance from the Pakistani side".

"It was an unprovoked and indiscriminate attack by US helicopters and fighter jets," he said.

He denied an account by American officials, carried in Friday's Wall Street Journal, that they had checked the location with Pakistan first and the fatal strike had been given the go-ahead.

An investigation by the US military is under way.

In retaliation for the incident, Pakistan has blocked the transit of Nato supplies through its territory, ended the US use of an airbase and is boycotting next week's high-level international meeting on Afghanistan in Bonn.

Pakistan's co-operation is considered vital to stabilising Afghanistan and pushing the Taliban into peace talks.

Pakistan military ordered to return fire if attacked by Nato forces | World news | The Guardian

Just giving free hands to troops is not enough giving them proper fire power to defend is most important........ Providing all the post with Air defence missiles like Anza I or II is a basic necessity now

 

[wmdisinfo]

The puprose and the aim i will clear it to u.911 BAHANA AFGHANISTAN THIKANA PAKISTAN NISHANA.911 excuse, afghanistan base And Pakistan the Target in simple and NUKES ARE THE MAIN TARGET

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Yes i can , soldiers rely on orders from the high command which unfortunately wasn't given ... PAF again has to take orders from AHQ ... Nobody was allowed to retaliate so they didn't ... The same isn't the case now ...

And yeah if NATO has to stay in Afghanistan till 2014 and bring a face saving end to this conflict , they have to care what Pakistan says or does ... Over 40% of NATO supplies pass through Torkhum and Chaman ... You think this is a joke ? Russia has already started blackmailing USA over NDN for European missile defense shield ... Bon conference is meaningless without the participation of Pakistan ... Expect continuous civil war in Afghanistan if Pakistan refuses to co-operate ...

what really pains the trolls is that the Afghan majority group and the Pakistani tribal areas, KP and Balochistan share the same ethnic group that have relations on both sides of the border

so what these guys say and want does matter. Afghanistan doesn’t just rely on NATO supplies but also on food and other trade goods that comes from Pakistan, even during the Soviet occupation.

the Afghans must be "thanking" these trigger happy pillocks for causing all the disruption and will curse NATO if the whole border is blocked from any form of transportation or trade.

NATO might find ways to reroute their supplies and drone strikes but millions of Afghans cant. thats a fact.

Trolls find it very noble to blame the inaction of the PAF but just consider for a moment, why did NATO did what it did that needed PAF to respond?

the only parties laughing here are the Trolls that live their short troll life before getting banned or the terrorists who say FU very much to NATO for removing the posts that were making their incursions into KP very difficult

 

[Doctor09]

DG military operation said that they are providing new weapons to troops to counter such attacks in future .. i think he was pointing toward Anza

 

[VelocuR]

What are you saying? FD-2000 can take down a helicopter from 125 Km away. Go and read the FD-2000 specifications first. As for LD-2000 which supports FD-2000, it can take down a helicopter easy. Not only that but it has C-RAM and anti-Precision Guided ammunition capability, which basically means it can shoot down rockets, missiles, artillery shells and even mortars before they hit the ground at a safe distance. Here is more: http://www.defence.pk/forums/wmd-missiles/143634-blanket-air-defense-pakistan.html

Well, Pakistan not going to purchase anytime soon. We can discuss the current resources which PA using now, not SAMs. All of these resources Anza or shoulder to shoulder missiles are ineffective and short ranges. Then we can't do anything to stop experienced Apache. Sorry, there is no point to discuss about SAMs, we currently don't have it.

Pakistan Army have been taught to counter India and sitting-ducks PAF have been taught to respond quickly against Indian intrusions only. (i.e- recent Indian helicopter held in Pakistan).

Amazing, how quickly respond to force Indian helicopter down without permission of high command, why can't same to NATO helicopters ?

PA with 28 martyers and sleeping PAF is full of jokes and defenceless, it will degraded their best reputations. Last time, radars something wrong on OBL raid---(blame on radar on/off switch) and now there is something wrong on communication !!!

 

[Doctor09]

Well, Pakistan not going to purchase anytime soon. We can discuss the current resources which PA using now, not SAMs. All of these resources Anza or shoulder to shoulder missiles are ineffective and short ranges. Then we can't do anything to stop experienced Apache. Sorry, there is no point to discuss about SAMs, we currently don't have it.

Pakistan Army have been taught to counter India and sitting-ducks PAF have been taught to respond quickly against Indian intrusions only. (i.e- recent Indian helicopter held in Pakistan).

Amazing, how quickly respond to force Indian helicopter down without permission of high command, why can't same to NATO helicopters ?

PA with 28 martyers and sleeping PAF is full of jokes and defenceless, it will degraded their best reputations. Last time, radars something wrong on OBL raid---(blame on radar on/off switch) and now there is something wrong on communication !!!

SPADA is effective against helicopters and Aircrafts and i think Anza mk3 missiles are also effective against helicopters