American attack aftermath: Pakistan declares attack a 'plot'

[Mav3rick]

If you get your facts right you will know that only one third of NATO supplies to Afghan are reaching via Pakistan ...

Now to the point , Your leaders both Military and Civilian are in cahoots with NATO , your leaders are screaming on top of your voice now , there are already 1000s of pak army men dead in WOT since last ten years .... did any thing change then???

It's you, actually, that needs to get the facts straight! NATO gets almost 50% of her supplies through Pakistan and the US get around 30-40% of her supplies through Pakistan.

 

[Dron.ru]

Time to get s-400 from russia

If the relationship between India and Pakistan continue to improve, it will be possible interesting joint projects such as the development of new generation systems for air and space defense. Now in the supply of military equipment, we are limited to complex relationships between our partners.

For example, to prevent unauthorized flights by American aircraft with stealth technology in the airspace of Pakistan, we could offer new radar system with separation of transmitter and receiver. At the beginning of this century, Iran wanted to buy us a system that includes the satellite constellation, ground infrastructure with fiber-optic link between passive radars and mobile missile launchers S300. Such system would make it impossible for a military invasion from the air, but the price is $ 4 billion at that time appeared unacceptable to Iran. Now they would be happy to buy such system, but the political situation in the world has changed and now we are more difficult to sell to Iran what it wants.

 

[LeGenD]

I was reading this and had to register to ask why posters are so defeatist? NATO is not in a good place strategically it has 130000 troops dispersed across Afghanistan, from different nationalities,and without proper resupply if Pakistan mobilizes it's armed forces I'm pretty sure they could quickly overrun the isolated NATO forces and escort them out of Afghanistan.Blitzkrieg NATO would run out of ammunition in days.But it all depends on what the Pakistani military/political leadership decides to do I don't think it would be a one sides confrontation. Certainly Pakistan might suffer heavy causalities in the initial assault but as shown by the Soviets during WW2 and Chinese in the Korean war you could overrun even the most superior firepower through numbers.And again they have no resupply it would be over in a week they would simply have no ammunition left.And the Chinese fought the entire UN not even just NATO and the UN had a lot more forces and proper resupply.Pakistan should think of it's strategic interests the future is in an alliance with China. NATO simply doesn't belong in the region and will eventually leave anyway.Their presence is only temporary.

Genius, you failed to figure out one thing in your plan: budget

How will you fund such a large military offensive operation? With American Aid?

People need to understand that big talk would achieve nothing. Pakistan needs to stand on its feet and true independence can only be achieved with strong economy.

Also, you are only fooling yourself if you think that NATO forces will run of ammo. Most of the supplies that go through Pakistani routes are not military supplies. These are primarily logistics supplies.

 

[Al Bhatti]

Simple answer..... army shall come out in public.. and open the secrets.

If Haqqani can get bharti dictation on KL bill than there is nothing to hide.. PA is at war and enemies are within and evidence is in abundance.

Sir, They won't do that even in their dreams by mistake, except if they figure out up something they think will be good enough to fool the public again.

 

[LeGenD]

Slaves will always be slaves....

The BEST ARMY IN THE WORLD (yeah, right.. lols).. What was it DOING in a WAR region where Army is conducting an OPERATION? There were reportedly 40 Army guys in the POST.. ALL HAVE been KILLED or INJURED and NOT ONE, I repeat, NOT ONE NATO Injury!!!

Still sleeping?

When will we learn NATO is our real enemy! STOP SUPPORTING NATO PLEASE

People swear at me when I laugh at their comments on "Best Army in the World".. and when I post the picture of the rickshaw again (Dont blow horn. Army is sleeping)

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But honestly, here is what I know will happen..


We will call Core commander meetings, defence meetings, Pass resolutions in NA, Provincial assemblies, register protests.. burn some flags..

Then Mike Mullen (or whoever is our daddy now) will visit Pakistan.. COAS will visit america.. They will say sorry sorry, wont happen again.. misunderstanding..
they will give us some more haddis (bones, like $$$), our generals will be blackmailed as usual and then our brave generals and even braver politicians will try to "resolve" this amicably, and give in to most demands, reopen NATO supply, kill some more taliban and than happy couples again...

till another further incident.. and then drama will repeat itself.

The illusion of 'best army in the world' has been created by us. The sooner we realize our weaknesses, the better.

We need to address our weaknesses. This is the only step towards strengthening the nation.

 

[VCheng]

I was reading this and had to register to ask why posters are so defeatist? NATO is not in a good place strategically it has 130000 troops dispersed across Afghanistan, from different nationalities,and without proper resupply if Pakistan mobilizes it's armed forces I'm pretty sure they could quickly overrun the isolated NATO forces and escort them out of Afghanistan.Blitzkrieg NATO would run out of ammunition in days.But it all depends on what the Pakistani military/political leadership decides to do I don't think it would be a one sides confrontation. Certainly Pakistan might suffer heavy causalities in the initial assault but as shown by the Soviets during WW2 and Chinese in the Korean war you could overrun even the most superior firepower through numbers.And again they have no resupply it would be over in a week they would simply have no ammunition left.And the Chinese fought the entire UN not even just NATO and the UN had a lot more forces and proper resupply.Pakistan should think of it's strategic interests the future is in an alliance with China. NATO simply doesn't belong in the region and will eventually leave anyway.Their presence is only temporary.

Genius, you failed to figure out one thing in your plan: budget

How will you fund such a large military offensive operation? With American Aid?

People need to understand that big talk would achieve nothing. Pakistan needs to stand on its feet and true independence can only be achieved with strong economy.

Also, you are only fooling yourself if you think that NATO forces will run of ammo. Most of the supplies that go through Pakistani routes are not military supplies. These are primarily logistics supplies.

Nevermind the budget.

In an all out military confrontation, which MUST not be allowed to happen, PAF will be destroyed within a few hours, all major military installations within one night, and followed by hundreds of other targets destroyed with two days. Oh, and no nukes will be deployable. Pakistani casualties will easily approach a million, mostly military, within two days.

Forget these types of outlandish thoughts. Please calm down.

 

[PakShaheen79]

Army rejects Nato's claim

NOVEMBER 29, 2011 RECORDER REPORT 0 COMMENTS

While rejecting Nato's claim that Pakistan forces initiated fire, Director General, Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR), Major General Athar Abbas said on Monday: "Nato forces should present proof if they are claiming that firing was started from the Pakistani side," he said while talking to a private TV channel here.

He added, "No fire was opened from our side and we responded only after the martyrdom of our soldiers." Abbas said that no Nato soldier was injured as a result of firing from Pakistani side.

He said that Nato could not make the excuse that they were chasing terrorists across the border because the area where the attack took place had been cleared.
Athar Abbas said that Nato had been provided maps of all Pakistani check posts as reference and they had also been informed about their positions.

The DG ISPR also said that the attack took place within 200-300 meters within Pakistan's borders and added that the area had been cleared of militants.

He said that the investigations were still going on about the two posts namely Volcano and Golden made beyond Salala.

When attack was initiated, the soldiers deployed on these posts immediately informed the senior officers who took up the issue with regional headquarter at Peshawar and GHQ Rawalpindi.
They informed that the posts were being attacked.

We received information of the martyrdom of 24 soldiers after mortar shelling was stopped from across the border, he added.

He said the attack continued up to two hours in which another 13 soldiers sustained injuries.

Responding to a question he said that he would not speculate regarding apology of Nato.
"Our leadership is reviewing it, Whether it was an unprovoked attack," he added.

He said that the limits of our diplomatic co-operation would also be discussed.

Responding to a query, DG, ISPR said that only Nato chief could answer question about cease-fire as he was duly informed about the attack.

Regarding additional arrangements on border posts, he said that Mohmand Areas was cleared after a long struggle in which more than 70 soldiers embraced martyrdom and more than 250 sustained injuries.
Ruling out presence of terrorists in the area, he said a large number of posts were made to enhance control in that area.

He said that Nato was also informed about presence of these posts and IASF officials were informed whenever a new post was created so that they could retain map references of these posts.

Responding about Shamsi airbase, the DG, ISPR said that he would not speculate on this issue.

 

[PakShaheen79]

Army rejects Nato's claim

NOVEMBER 29, 2011 RECORDER REPORT 0 COMMENTS

While rejecting Nato's claim that Pakistan forces initiated fire, Director General, Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR), Major General Athar Abbas said on Monday: "Nato forces should present proof if they are claiming that firing was started from the Pakistani side," he said while talking to a private TV channel here.

He added, "No fire was opened from our side and we responded only after the martyrdom of our soldiers." Abbas said that no Nato soldier was injured as a result of firing from Pakistani side.

He said that Nato could not make the excuse that they were chasing terrorists across the border because the area where the attack took place had been cleared.
Athar Abbas said that Nato had been provided maps of all Pakistani check posts as reference and they had also been informed about their positions.

The DG ISPR also said that the attack took place within 200-300 meters within Pakistan's borders and added that the area had been cleared of militants.

He said that the investigations were still going on about the two posts namely Volcano and Golden made beyond Salala.

When attack was initiated, the soldiers deployed on these posts immediately informed the senior officers who took up the issue with regional headquarter at Peshawar and GHQ Rawalpindi.
They informed that the posts were being attacked.

We received information of the martyrdom of 24 soldiers after mortar shelling was stopped from across the border, he added.

He said the attack continued up to two hours in which another 13 soldiers sustained injuries.

Responding to a question he said that he would not speculate regarding apology of Nato.
"Our leadership is reviewing it, Whether it was an unprovoked attack," he added.

He said that the limits of our diplomatic co-operation would also be discussed.

Responding to a query, DG, ISPR said that only Nato chief could answer question about cease-fire as he was duly informed about the attack.

Regarding additional arrangements on border posts, he said that Mohmand Areas was cleared after a long struggle in which more than 70 soldiers embraced martyrdom and more than 250 sustained injuries.
Ruling out presence of terrorists in the area, he said a large number of posts were made to enhance control in that area.

He said that Nato was also informed about presence of these posts and IASF officials were informed whenever a new post was created so that they could retain map references of these posts.

Responding about Shamsi airbase, the DG, ISPR said that he would not speculate on this issue.

 

[PakShaheen79]

Pak military rules out joint probe into Nato raid
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Director General Military Operations Major General Ashfaq Nadeem has rejected Nato’s offers of carrying out joint investigation into the Nato raid on Pakistan’s military checkposts in Mohmand Agency. During a media briefing on Tuesday, he said that there was no outcome of such joint probe into the past attacks. He reiterated that the Nato deliberately attacked Pakistani checkposts and continued targeting them for hours. “It was an open aggression and unprovoked attack,” he added. The DG MO said it would premature to say anything about motives behind the attack.

Pak military rules out joint probe into Nato raid | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

 

[PakShaheen79]

US-NATO trampled international law; Attacks against Pakistan may recur if sovereignty not fully resp

BEIJING, Nov 29 (APP): People’s Daily, China’s most influential and authoritative newspaper, with widest circulation, said the United States has flouted international law and fanned terrorism by mounting the NATO/ISAF airstrikes on the Pakistani army’s check-posts.Above all, we must be clear that the United States and NATO have trampled on international laws and rules, said a news analysis in the newspaper.The article titled Anti-Terror War Also Needs Rules said Islamabad’s grip on domestic security will also be weakened, adding this will not only work against the war on terror, it could also leave the risk of long-term turmoil.
The risk in fighting terror this way is that it will ignite latent sympathy and support for terrorism, as well as hurting many innocent people and damaging international law, it stated.
If the US and NATO do not know how to show real respect for Pakistan’s independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity similar unintended attacks will definitely take place again.
The article written, under the pen name, Bell’s Sound, maintains that If (the US and NATO) do not really respect Pakistan’s independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity, it is possible that similar accidental bombing recur.
The soil nurturing terrorism will become even more fertile, and the space for terrorism to spread even broader, it said.
Peoples Daily newspaper has a daily circulation of around 3.5 million and is published in the Chinese language understood across China.

Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan's Premier NEWS Agency )

 

[bdslph]

yes India and Pakistan should build more better relation , as has somehow showed fruitful and also at the same time Pakistan can buy SAM from Russia

i also wish Russia can sell its system to IRAN

 

[Hulk]

Someone posted a video after attack, after looking at it. I felt sad, add to it I am Indian, I still felt bad. I am unable to find any logical support for NATO. Hindustan Times is reporting Pakistan has complained in UN.

 

[jahangeer yousaf]

only 2 words to nato

fitay munh

 

[air marshal]

 

[PATRIOT6]

only 2 words to nato

fitay munh

Fithay Munh is not enough,
It is shame that we lost our soldiers and still our gov and politicians and defence is having only usual dialogue
i feel to pity on those soldiers who aint even try to resist just waited for the higher command orders.
is our blood is meaningless for the west???