American attack aftermath: Pakistan declares attack a 'plot'

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NATO apology not good enough: Pakistan army​

Published: November 28, 2011


ISLAMABAD: While foreign newspapers reported that the Nato attack on Pakistani troops in Mohmand Agency was provoked by firing from the Pakistani side, the Pakistani military denied the allegations and was critical of Nato’s apology.
Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Director General Major General Abbas said on Monday that Nato and Isaf are “trying to wriggle out of the situation” by claiming that the Pakistani troops fired at them first. Referring to the apology issued by Nato Chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen on Sunday, he told Express 24/7:

“This (apology) is not good enough. We strongly condemn the attacks and reserve the right to take action.”
Abbas said that the attack on Pakistani troops was “indiscriminate, highly callous and irresponsible”.
He reiterated that the Pakistani side did not fire towards the Afghan border, and said media reports that suggested otherwise are “untrue”.

“There is no reason for the fire to be initiated from our area,” he said, adding that Mohmand Agency has been cleared of militancy and that the army has regained control of the area.

“We have cleared the area and lost 70 officers in the operation already. Now we have to face the brunt of Nato from the other side?”

He stressed that the issue needs to be investigated, and the cause and use of weapons will be thoroughly explored.
In an interview on Sunday with British newspaper the Guardian, Abbas said he did not believe Isaf or Afghan forces received fire from the Pakistani side.

“I cannot rule out the possibility that this was a deliberate attack by Isaf,” said Abbas. “If Isaf was receiving fire, then they must tell us what their losses were.”

Pakistani army officials said the posts that were attacked were about 300 metres into Pakistani territory. Isaf officers, however, maintain that the border in that area is disputed.

Abbas told the Guardian that the firing lasted for over an hour, and that Isaf made “no attempt” to contact the Pakistani side.

“This was a visible, well-made post, on top of ridges, made of concrete. Militants don’t operate from mountaintops, from concrete structures.”

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NATO apology not good enough: Pakistan army – The Express Tribune

Pakistan has 'established the facts' and conducted its investigation and provided details into the incident, officially.

what legal actions can Pakistan take against NATO at this time? the UNO?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

“This is not true. They are making up excuses. And by the way, what are their losses, casualties?” Major General Athar Abbas, Pakistan’s chief military spokesman, wrote to AFP in a text message.

He later told Pakistani television channel Geo that 72 Pakistani soldiers have been killed and 250 wounded by fire from across the Afghan border over the last three years.

Asked about expressions of regret by Nato he said: “We do not accept it because such kind of attacks have been taking place in the past… Our leadership will decide about further reaction.” British newspaper The Daily Telegraph on Monday quoted wounded survivors of the raid, who insisted they were victims of an unprovoked attack.

Pakistan steps up rhetoric over lethal Nato raid | World | DAWN.COM

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Defence Secretary Leon Panetta is more than likely behind this atrocity, either directly or indirectly - the CIA under him did much the same, at one point killing dozens of tribal leaders at a gathering in a drone strike after RD was released, despite strong opposition from the US ambassador and SD.

If it is a deliberate act,you cant point out one person from the system coz he is outspoken.

Not because he is 'outspoken', but because of his past actions as Director of the CIA.

Please read through this thread:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistans-war/123292-cia-war-crimes-terrorism-pakistan.html

 

[SQ8]

On the same program I mentioned.. excellent statement by the guest.
We were supposed to be allies, we KNOW where the other person's posts are.. you have visited that post for christs sake!
It is nothing more than a kill mission probably to incite a response.
Its the endgame and the US wants to try the good ol Laos and Cambodia trick here.
Except this ISNT laos and Cambodia..
They think it will end up destabilizing us? they are stirring up a hornets nest they have no idea how to smoke out.

 

[IranZamin]

It seems the American fanboys never cease to amuse
Pakistan says outpost attacked by NATO helicopter - Page 14
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forum...stan-s-prime-minister-issues-a-warning-to-U-S

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

what legal actions can Pakistan take against NATO at this time? the UNO?

I believe it is time to take the issue of US military operations in Pakistan to the UN - the UNSC resolutions do not provide the US cover for these operations inside Pakistani territory, and the drone strikes have the additional legal issue of being 'assassinations without trial' on the basis of 'suspicion and preemption', rather than 'self defence during combat'.

 

[VelocuR]

After destroyed this Checkposts with 28 martyers, how many Terrorists flow now into Pakistan?

The attention is turned to focus on this blame game between NATO vs Pakistan, terrorists smartly on the run and hide (through the damaged checkposts).

 

[IranZamin]

I believe it is time to take the issue of US military operations in Pakistan to the UN - the UNSC resolutions do not provide the US cover for these operations inside Pakistani territory, and the drone strikes have the additional legal issue of being 'assassinations without trial' on the basis of 'suspicion and preemption', rather than 'self defence during combat'.

Taking to the UN ? UN is the last organization Pakistan should go. It is a puppet organization of the Israelis,Americans

 

[VCheng]

very important thing that I want to highlight is, if there is an attack from Taliban in Kabul then the things can get even worse
if I was a taliban commander I would launch a suicide attack in Afghanistan that has a potential of causing heavy NATO/ Afghan casualities and then sit back with popcorns to enjoy another round of accusations from Afghan/ NATO side of ISI's involvement in the attack, that will yet again put the Pakistan on defensive and it will be declared guilty until it can prove otherwise.


how do you see the possible Nothern alliance mischief in this current attack? I mean they pretty much represent the Afghan national army and they are very candid in their hatred towards Pakistan, what better chance to inflict as much damage on Pakistan which the NATO forces are here?

That is a very real danger. There must be plans to do something like that already; remember, USA and Pakistan are not the only players in the arena.

 

[Emmie]

ISLAMABAD: The main Pakistani association that delivers fuel to Nato forces in Afghanistan said it would not resume supplies anytime soon in protest against an air attack that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers at the weekend.

Nawab Sher Afridi, general secretary of the All Pakistan Oil Tanker Owners Association, said the association would reconsider only if the Islamabad government and the military accept an apology for the incident.

Pakistan fuel suppliers protest against Nato attack | Pakistan | DAWN.COM

 

[slytherin]

Taking to the UN ? UN is the last organization Pakistan should go. It is a puppet organization of the Israelis,Americans

then what do u suggest sir???

 

[iPhone]

The interesting thing is, this incident might result in some 'quiet days/weeks' on the drones front, in terms of the drone campaign in Pakistan. If the drones keep reigning in like they have even after this event, then we can all safely say that the US doesn't mind how adverse events transpire in Pakistan.

yup, one way of gauging how serious the military establishment has taken the stand is through the number of drone strikes in the country. Like how in the intial weeks of RD's case there was no drone strike. What a weird world we live in.

 

[VCheng]

I believe it is time to take the issue of US military operations in Pakistan to the UN - the UNSC resolutions do not provide the US cover for these operations inside Pakistani territory, and the drone strikes have the additional legal issue of being 'assassinations without trial' on the basis of 'suspicion and preemption', rather than 'self defence during combat'.

Now that may be a very good suggestion worth exploring.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

Taking to the UN ? UN is the last organization Pakistan should go. It is a puppet organization of the Israelis,Americans

Its not puppet but all big 5 should be agreed on something. It seems this case there are big 3- US, UK and France to use their vetoagainst Pakistan. Iran is lucky to have support of big 2- Russia and China.

 

[Areesh]

Pathetic no NATO or American soldier killed today in any attack by Taliban.