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Wow nice and why did they sign peace deal with the Philippines then?
What about the massive demographic "engineering" islam did over the last 14 centuries or so in places like India, Iran, CAR's etc. etc. The list goes on and on and on. Please stop whining. The Bloody Borders Of Islam (Charles Krauthammer)
Chinesetiger1986 strongly disagrees with you
http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...med-fisherman-philippines-67.html#post4448650
Martian2 says he was raised in a KMT household
http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...rategic-partnership-expert-2.html#post2509545
What I said about the KMT
http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...seizes-taiwan-fishing-boat-2.html#post4290768
http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...seizes-taiwan-fishing-boat-2.html#post4290840
Me
http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...med-fisherman-philippines-68.html#post4452860
http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...med-fisherman-philippines-67.html#post4440265
http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...med-fisherman-philippines-66.html#post4428694
http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...med-fisherman-philippines-67.html#post4440265
Martian2
http://www.defence.pk/forums/chinese-defence/152851-taiwan-elections-4.html#post2497422
Me on China copying from other countries
http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...hes-chief-designer-chinese-8.html#post4523235
Martian2 boasting on China's new military technology
http://www.defence.pk/forums/chinese-defence/128872-martian2s-objective-views.html
http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...ndigenous-technology-highly-questionable.html
Oh and I'm not known for having obnoxious opinions on any countries economy. In fact I rarely comment on economic matters and I never boasted about China producing indigeneous technology.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/europe...-size-like-germany-according-worldbank-2.html
lol i never said you are Martian, i said YOU REMIND ME OF HIM.
But if you are to jump into the band wagon and defend the idea of you are martian, then now i think indeed you are.
If you are not, and i am not accusing you of, why then urge to defend a point that wasn't even materialized??
Something is wrong here man......
@Zero_wing @gambit
Did this wholegrain fella remind you of someone who used to be here and said he quit a long time ago?
He remind me of Martian a lot, the way his post was filled (Using a lot of Link and hyper), the way he argue and the point he raise. Most of all he claim he is a taiwanese and currently living in America. Which was the same as Martians.
Don't forget, wholegrain comes out only after Martians said he is going to retire form this forum?? Wholegrain registered in may and martian2 have this Thread I'm leaving. Tired of arbitray "no-value/off-topic" moderation standard in may 2013,
co-incident? I don't really think so
What's ironic is that no one has actually disputed the history, broadly speaking, that you posted.
All they are doing is either attacking you personally, or justifying the history.
I am not Martian2. I invite everyone to look over Martian2's posts and compare them to mine.
Did this wholegrain fella remind you of someone who used to be here and said he quit a long time ago?
He remind me of Martian a lot
Should anyone should be starting a defensive posture becasue what he wrote??
Wholegrain has quoted your post in entirety where you talked about the timing of Martian leaving and Wholegrain appearing. You wrote about the similarity in writing styles.
You wrote that it isn't a coincidence.
There was a clear implication that you were claiming him to be Martian2.
Maybe you haven't actually read the historical overview.
The Northern tribes annexed the land belonging to the Moros with the help of foreign colonialists.
This is the same thing which happened in southern Thailand, where the British colonialists essentially gifted the southern Malay lands to the northern Thai.
The point of studying history is to understand the roots of modern conflicts rather than the simplistic "they are fanatical fundamentalists" narrative promoted by the media. No one is talking about intervening in Manila's affairs but, if the Philippines (or any other country) is to find true, lasting peace, they will have to come to terms with their history rather than brushing it all under the carpet
problem with studing history is, you need to know what is enough.
What he is saying is actually happening all over the world throught out history
American annexed Hawai'i with the help of Britain
Germany annexed Austria/Poland with the help of Russia
Australia annexed Christmas island from singapore with the help of British
Japan Annexed Okinawa with the help of America
I can go on and on.
The problem is not we need to know what those stuff has been thru, rather we learn how it happen either
1.) prevent them from happen in the future (Like WW2)
2.) Take it as our own advantage and use it on us.
Eitherway, there are no point discussing how unjust annexation of some random part of the land from any part of the world. Why he have to raise the issue with Philippine and Moros? Should he been raising the issue of Puerto Rico and US or Senkaku which is mroe related to him and his status? Or should we all should just randomly dish out historical facts and discuss the heck about it without regarding how it related to us actually?
We are the student of history, but you cannot just randomly study them.
Austria and Poland are independent from Germany.
As for the others, if any of those regions had an active insurgency/civil war going on, then it would be absolutely relevant to study the historical background. I am not supporting separatism, but saying that legitimate concerns should be addressed rather than dismissing them all as terrorists.
I don't see anything wrong with what the current Filippino government is doing, the same as any country that suffer the same problem. I don't see Chinese actively giving land to the Uyghur, nor Iraqi/Turkey/Iran actively giving land to Kurdish, nor Israel activing giving land for peace to Palestine. If all 3 example is ok in our eyes, then why we need to care about Philippine and Moro??