Featured America Has Lost a Proxy War against Pakistan

[Khan vilatey]

This is just pure western propaganda piece sprinkled with the warped delusional world Indians are living in.

the simplest questions to ask would be

1) 2 trillion dollars 100s of thousand of NATO troops why were the Taliban and alQuiada allowed to prosper and grow in Afghanistan for the last 20 years ?

2) Pakistani’s economy is worth a few hundred billion dollars , in that are we saying that Pakistan has been able to defeats two super powers USSR in the 80s and NATO / US in 2020. Why would one make enemies of Pakistan …. The believers and ender of super powers India can not even conduct successful air strikes ……

3) 100s of thousand Pakistani’s 65000 to 75000 and 15000 military had died in this war , that is more people than all of nato losses combined. How can a country with this level of sacrifice be anything but sincere

4) Indian trained afghan army surrenders and runs only able to kill innocent civilians but not capable of true war just like their Indian trainers. The only ones that can stand and fight are NaTo trained special forces but these are diluted with the inferior Indian training for the ANA. On the contrary alleged Pakistani training to the tali’s allows them to take on Nato and 300k Indian trained ANA so what will happen when an allied goverment takes office in Afghanistan and we can use our successful formula in the liberation of Kashmir ?

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[Chris Logan]

True or not the new narrative will be to blame Pakistan and there is gonna be sanctions at least to scapegoat. Get ready to tighten your belts.

Besides vengeance, what other objective did you achieve for 'slaying' Osama.

that was the only real objective. the US political class bungled the war.

 

[Goritoes]

Who defeats America, I will wait until a ex-CIA or Army General or a Politician writes a book about it.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Our nation suffered the most after Afghanistan

Country was left in ruins and we didn't even get an FTA to heal some of the wounds

What happened to US

They spent a trillions

But according to Jay z

What's 50 grand to a MF'a like me, Can you please remind me?"

US can say the same what's trillion $ to a MF'a like me,
I'll just pack up and leave
Who gives a crap?

Meanwhile we suffered so MUCH!!,

if you want a reminder

this is what we went through

If this is what victory looks like

By god I wish no one goes through what Pakistan went through

 

[Bouncer]

Pakistan keeps WINNING!

Some 70k Pakistani lives lost. Billions in damages to infrastructure. Yet Uncle Sam and allies say Pakistan won. OK if you say so.

 

[Amin Bactria]

hahahaha great joke so it was america against pakistan now so why do you suck up to them to this day
pakistan did lose all the way there is nothing changed from the year 2000 other than death and destruction so great victory for you that you indeed helped to happen by yourself allowing america not just into afghanistan like a lackeys but to bomb you and still you work with america as if it never bombed your own civilians please this pakistani government has 0 selfrespect less respect from pakistani civilians who suffered years of american aggression growing up scared forever by stupid decisions taken by people who still arent ashamed and act as if they are so smart and winners of a total mess
allowing america into your own territory and acting as if you are buddies while and long after they bombed you to dirt is quite amazing ignorance about what really happened between pakistan and america and if this was iran in your place than we would have wrecked america by now atleast emp striked it so i will never understand how easily pakistanis give up in these things suddenly lacking a backbone in their entire body and going down to the level of american and british feet

 

[Amin Bactria]

Pakistan keeps WINNING!

Some 70k Pakistani lives lost. Billions in damages to infrastructure. Yet Uncle Sam and allies say Pakistan won. OK if you say so.

this was from the beginning obvious fitna garii for pakistan to side with americans that badly not just was it always meant to fail america didnt really do anything to make afghanistan capable to defend even against anything they had nothing no tanks no artillery no nothing so basically america just came in to cause chaos and pump opium child trade and other wickedness into our region all supported by the usual suspects of gcc and tunneled through pakistan great achievement really for us all once again as if its not happening all over the place already this ruinous nonsense
now pakistan feels once again responsible to kiss up to america probably soon it will weasel on its knees infront of american officials do you really not learn to have this kind of people in your government really how long will the military be able to keep it all together when everything else is pudding and offers you as much of a foundation as such and maybe learn from afghanistan they also had made in america foundations look at how well it worked there

 

[Indos]

Our nation suffered the most after Afghanistan

Country was left in ruins and we didn't even get an FTA to heal some of the wounds

What happened to US

They spent a trillions

But according to Jay z

What's 50 grand to a MF'a like me, Can you please remind me?"

US can say the same what's trillion $ to a MF'a like me,
I'll just pack up and leave
Who gives a crap?

Meanwhile we suffered so MUCH!!,

if you want a reminder

this is what we went through

If this is what victory looks like

By god I wish no one goes through what Pakistan went through

During the so many bomb attack in Pakistan, Pak government still let TTP rules Waziristan. It was like their own territory with their own laws. Just not so long when Pak Gov made a bold move to control Waziristan again

 

[Bouncer]

this was from the beginning obvious fitna garii for pakistan to side with americans that badly not just was it always meant to fail america didnt really do anything to make afghanistan capable to defend even against anything they had nothing no tanks no artillery no nothing so basically america just came in to cause chaos and pump opium child trade and other wickedness into our region all supported by the usual suspects of gcc and tunneled through pakistan great achievement really for us all once again as if its not happening all over the place already this ruinous nonsense
now pakistan feels once again responsible to kiss up to america probably soon it will weasel on its knees infront of american officials do you really not learn to have this kind of people in your government really how long will the military be able to keep it all together when everything else is pudding and offers you as much of a foundation as such and maybe learn from afghanistan they also had made in america foundations look at how well it worked there

So I am not sure I understand your rant exactly. Pakistan is NOT "kissing up to America" if you have been following the news. If you were to go by American official statements and their own media, seems like Pakistan was the biggest obstacle for them. The foot soldiers in Kabul are Afghans but you can bet your last dollar that their strategy, weapons, salaries were coming from somewhere else.

Pakistan acted in its own self interest in this war, just like we did when the USSR invaded Afghanistan i.e. Avoid a shooting war inside mainland Pakistan with a super power, ensure a friendly setup in Afghanistan, reduce the spillover in to Pakistan and keep Americans engaged in a muddy war. As of yesterday, all of these objectives are achieved. Now you can argue about the cost Pakistan had to pay, but at the end of the day our establishment did what it had to do get out of this mess in one piece.

What exactly did you expect us to do when the Americans invaded Afghanistan? Start a war with the reigning super power over some uneducated fools across the border who think their interpretation of religion is to be imposed over everyone else? Majority of Pakistanis are cheering for their victory right now but we do NOT agree with their ideology. We would never want a similar setup in Pakistan.

Hope this helps you understand our point of view. Comparison with Iran is doing is useless because of fundamental differences with our situation. You do not share a physical uncontrollable border with the places your proxies are fighting. You do not share any ethnic links with Syrians, Lebanese, Yemenites. You do not run the risk of tearing your own social fabric. You'll always have oil to fall back on. You do not share a 1500km long border and an active front with an enemy 6~7 times larger than you. These are our constraints and if you had an iota of intelligence to understand these you'd be able to appreciate the role Pakistan played.

 

[Amin Bactria]

So I am not sure I understand your rant exactly. Pakistan is NOT "kissing up to America" if you have been following the news. If you were to go by American official statements and their own media, seems like Pakistan was the biggest obstacle for them. The foot soldiers in Kabul are Afghans but you can bet your last dollar that their strategy, weapons, salaries were coming from somewhere else.

Pakistan acted in its own self interest in this war, just like we did when the USSR invaded Afghanistan i.e. Avoid a shooting war inside mainland Pakistan with a super power, ensure a friendly setup in Afghanistan, reduce the spillover in to Pakistan and keep Americans engaged in a muddy war. As of yesterday, all of these objectives are achieved. Now you can argue about the cost Pakistan had to pay, but at the end of the day our establishment did what it had to do get out of this mess in one piece.

What exactly did you expect us to do when the Americans invaded Afghanistan? Start a war with the reigning super power over some uneducated fools across the border who think their interpretation of religion is to be imposed over everyone else? Majority of Pakistanis are cheering for their victory right now but we do NOT agree with their ideology. We would never want a similar setup in Pakistan.

Hope this helps you understand our point of view. Comparison with Iran is doing is useless because of fundamental differences with our situation. You do not share a physical uncontrollable border with the places your proxies are fighting. You do not share any ethnic links with Syrians, Lebanese, Yemenites. You do not run the risk of tearing your own social fabric. You'll always have oil to fall back on. You do not share a 1500km long border and an active front with an enemy 6~7 times larger than you. These are our constraints and if you had an iota of intelligence to understand these you'd be able to appreciate the role Pakistan played.

hahaha sure pay up your debt like a little tool take part in usury and tell me how independent you are while you already have doomed yourself by behaving like a lackey

So I am not sure I understand your rant exactly. Pakistan is NOT "kissing up to America" if you have been following the news. If you were to go by American official statements and their own media, seems like Pakistan was the biggest obstacle for them. The foot soldiers in Kabul are Afghans but you can bet your last dollar that their strategy, weapons, salaries were coming from somewhere else.

Pakistan acted in its own self interest in this war, just like we did when the USSR invaded Afghanistan i.e. Avoid a shooting war inside mainland Pakistan with a super power, ensure a friendly setup in Afghanistan, reduce the spillover in to Pakistan and keep Americans engaged in a muddy war. As of yesterday, all of these objectives are achieved. Now you can argue about the cost Pakistan had to pay, but at the end of the day our establishment did what it had to do get out of this mess in one piece.

What exactly did you expect us to do when the Americans invaded Afghanistan? Start a war with the reigning super power over some uneducated fools across the border who think their interpretation of religion is to be imposed over everyone else? Majority of Pakistanis are cheering for their victory right now but we do NOT agree with their ideology. We would never want a similar setup in Pakistan.

Hope this helps you understand our point of view. Comparison with Iran is doing is useless because of fundamental differences with our situation. You do not share a physical uncontrollable border with the places your proxies are fighting. You do not share any ethnic links with Syrians, Lebanese, Yemenites. You do not run the risk of tearing your own social fabric. You'll always have oil to fall back on. You do not share a 1500km long border and an active front with an enemy 6~7 times larger than you. These are our constraints and if you had an iota of intelligence to understand these you'd be able to appreciate the role Pakistan played.

you have people who are in their 20s and older all of which have traumata because of this american war that was waged above pakistan bombing pakistan here and there please tell me who will fix the damage that was caused because you are plainly ignorant about it

 

[Dalit]

hahaha sure pay up your debt like a little tool take part in usury and tell me how independent you are while you already have doomed yourself by behaving like a lackey

you have people who are in their 20s and older all of which have traumata because of this american war that was waged above pakistan bombing pakistan here and there please tell me who will fix the damage that was caused because you are plainly ignorant about it

You don't worry brotherman. We will make up for it now with interest. Everyone is smart enough to understand what I mean by that.

During the so many bomb attack in Pakistan, Pak government still let TTP rules Waziristan. It was like their own territory with their own laws. Just not so long when Pak Gov made a bold move to control Waziristan again

Hey Indo. You must be grieving LOL

 

[CatSultan]

Not a Proxy war but the result does benefit Pakistan. It's not the best scenario we could hope for. A political settlement between the Taliban and ANA would've been better because it would suppress any rebellion against the Taliban and Pakistan. But Hopefully, this Afghan government will work with us against BLA and TTP remnants.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

this was from the beginning obvious fitna garii for pakistan to side with americans that badly not just was it always meant to fail america didnt really do anything to make afghanistan capable to defend even against anything they had nothing no tanks no artillery no nothing so basically america just came in to cause chaos and pump opium child trade and other wickedness into our region all supported by the usual suspects of gcc and tunneled through pakistan great achievement really for us all once again as if its not happening all over the place already this ruinous nonsense
now pakistan feels once again responsible to kiss up to america probably soon it will weasel on its knees infront of american officials do you really not learn to have this kind of people in your government really how long will the military be able to keep it all together when everything else is pudding and offers you as much of a foundation as such and maybe learn from afghanistan they also had made in america foundations look at how well it worked there

I aint gonna read that wall of text but with a username like "bactria" why do you have Irani flag?

 

[Amin Bactria]

I aint gonna read that wall of text but with a username like "bactria" why do you have Irani flag?

i know bactria is a weird name its my grandmothers last name
as if bactria still existed truely weird most people have no idea what it means anyway XD
my actual last name which is from my fathers side also begins with b and a so i use bactria sometimes sometimes just a bat

 

[CatSultan]

Islam becomes a danger for a global interest-based economy when it is embraced as a way of life by a larger group of people. And Islam becomes a danger when Khilafat declares war against any country. To the best of my knowledge, there is not a single Islamic country in this world.

That's the issue.
@Path-Finder The war was and is at the roots of the Islamic system. Not Pakistan.

its in the name ISLAMIC republic of Pakistan