Featured America Has Lost a Proxy War against Pakistan

[nahtanbob]

Islam becomes a danger for a global interest-based economy when it is embraced as a way of life by a larger

do you know the interest I earn on my checking account in USA ?

 

[SQ8]

do you know the interest I earn on my checking account in USA ?

do you only have checking accounts? Does your neighbor, their neighbor and the entire 200 million in the US and so on?

 

[fitpOsitive]

do you know the interest I earn on my checking account in USA ?

You are a consumer. The real benefits of interest based markets goes to those consortiums, who fix gold rates, who fix oil prices, and the ones who decide goodwill value of different currencies.
Then I can see Africans in Africa working on a gold mine for either a white guy from Netherlands or a Chinese from Beijing.

That I was talking about. The interest as we know it and its implications, are not as we know it.

 

[imadul]

1. economy lost over 100 billion. that recovery is not going to happen overnight.
2. the residual after affect's and the attempt to raise a new wave like of the last one is still being toyed with! the fact that just in the few days various terrorism activities through the tri alliance. The army has once again deployed on the border for a reason. There is NO Fing way the yanks are going to leave peacefully. did you see the wad of Pakistani currency recovered from the NDS office in spin boldak? NDS is a bastard child of CIA+RAW!
3. you cant be this silly surely. the condoleezza rice led or engineered return of the two party leaders was that installation of corruption. the removal of these roaches...the inherited ppp to bill who is where right now? trying to seek an audience with papap joe for another bail out of some sort. n-league will follow in that footsteps too.
4. ptm; whos leadership frequently visits afghani land and his main master in the US. or rather moshin dawar. the support in western press for these scoundrels. ppp has started ethno fascist movement in sindh and I am sure bill will offer yanks the use of this ethno fascist movement to destabiliser Pakistan. The Baloch remnants will most likely shift to india and some say they have, but one has to understand that yanks and indians were hands in glove here. or as I call it the terrorist umbrella or quarterbacking terrorism for the yankee audience.

Pakistan was most viciously targeted by every possible tool available viz. Physical warfare, info warfare, hybrid war, psychological warfare, economic warfare.
The effort has a dichotomy because on one hand 2012 time frame was given for Pakistan's balkanization ( There were 100 or so suicide and IED based bomb blasts every month in that decade), but powers also did not want Pakistan to collapse because of help needed in Afghanistan and fear of Pakistan nukes will go in wrong hand.
It was a cycle of evil to good to evel to good designs.

 

[nahtanbob]

do you only have checking accounts? Does your neighbor, their neighbor and the entire 200 million in the US and so on?

most of us do have checking accounts ? most of us do not make any money on our checking and savings accounts. the interest rates are absurdly low.

money has been historically at higher interest rates because the risks associated with loaning money have been high. right now that is not a problem

You are a consumer. The real benefits of interest based markets goes to those consortiums, who fix gold rates, who fix oil prices, and the ones who decide goodwill value of different currencies.
Then I can see Africans in Africa working on a gold mine for either a white guy from Netherlands or a Chinese from Beijing.

That I was talking about. The interest as we know it and its implication, are not as we know it.

to the degree interest is charged on money. it reflects the time value and riskiness of the borrower

 

[SQ8]

most of us do have checking accounts ? most of us do not make any money on our checking and savings accounts. the interest rates are absurdly low.

money has been historically at higher interest rates because the risks associated with loaning money have been high. right now that is not a problem

Again, absolutely piecemeal and baseless arguments when the interest does exist and goes beyond personal checking accounts. Either state clearly that there is NO interest based economy or avoid giving stupid examples of your own checking account.

 

[nahtanbob]

Again, absolutely piecemeal and baseless arguments when the interest does exist and goes beyond personal checking accounts. Either state clearly that there is NO interest based economy or avoid giving stupid examples of your own checking account.

let us put it this way - the burden of constructing "NO interest based economy" is on the proponents. It is not on me.

Military aid came during this time.

The 1965 war happened and president Johnson slapped an embargo on all US military equipment a follow on from Kennedy's vision to see India as counterweight to China, which effectively crippled Pakistani offensive operations due to the sheer usage of US arms across the three services. This shook Pakistan to the core, that even after risking its neck, the US wouldn't supply a key ally against an ally of the Soviets. CENTO was just words.

Assume there are no US sanctions on Pakistan.
are PDFers claiming any difference in military outcomes with India ?

I will give a hint to the challenged - the war lasted a month

 

[SQ8]

let us put it this way - the burden of constructing "NO interest based economy" is on the proponents. It is not on me.


Assume there are no US sanctions on Pakistan.
are PDFers claiming any difference in military outcomes with India ?

I will give a hint to the challenged - the war lasted a month

It is on you - you disputed it did you not?
Or don’t quote it if you have entitlement on making one liners and then not replying because you don’t have the will to support it.

I would be very surprised if you could come back with any non- cherry picked example to back anything you say.

 

[TheDarkKnight]

do you know the interest I earn on my checking account in USA ?

Do you also know the interest you paid on your credit bills?

 

[nahtanbob]

Do you also know the interest you paid on your credit bills?

I do not keep a balance on my credit card bill. the rate is zero

It is on you - you disputed it did you not?
Or don’t quote it if you have entitlement on making one liners and then not replying because you don’t have the will to support it.

I would be very surprised if you could come back with any non- cherry picked example to back anything you say.

start non-interest rate economy in one of umpteen Muslim or Islamic societies. is anyone stopping you ?

 

[khansaheeb]

Pakistan didn't have much of a choice. Only difference in the global chess game this time is that the USA hurt its own position as well. Those trillions wasted in the ME and Afghanistan could have been invested in industry, technology and infrastructure inside the USA......reinforcing it against a rising China.

The Obama administration ignored requests to replenish the medical supplies in the national stock pile, putting the USA in a very bad position at the start of this pandemic......but spent lavishly on wars. Very Ironic for a President whos signature accomplishment is Obamacare.

The USA has been following a USSR approach dedicating large portions of its GDP to defense....when all that was required was a handful of forces needed to wipe out AQ with Pakistan's help. USA strategists can only blame themselves.

People only waste what doesn't belong to them , the money was most likely swindled from other countries and people from Stock market scams , drug and people trafficking.

 

[TheDarkKnight]

I do not keep a balance on my credit card bill. the rate is zero

Good job! But I said credit bills and not just credit card that includes Mortgage, car loan, student loan, business loans etc.

 

[xyxmt]

I sometime wonder if American establishment is really this stupid or are they playing stupid...I am starting to believe that ever since younger Bush US establishment is getting dumber and dumber with time and now with Sleepy Joe incharge this process is in full speed. They really thought that Pakistan will help them destroy herself!!!

 

[Goritoes]

History of backstabbing from the US.
Credit: Kaiser Tufail.


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Pakistan breathes : America, Sanction thy be upon you...

Pakistan Farts : America, These Toxic Fumes are against Freedom and liberty, Sanctions...

Pakistan Exists : America, No we are not happy with your existence, Sanctions...

I wish we don't win any proxy war like this where not a single American death and cost more then 70,000 deaths of our countrymen ..strange logic of people here ,? What is winning here ? Winning on death of people ? It's better to be defeated then

Russians lost more Soldiers in WW2 than anyone else, yet they win...

 

[nahtanbob]

Good job! But I said credit bills and not just credit card that includes Mortgage, car loan, student loan, business loans etc.

Well how do you plan to compensate the person loaning you the money ?