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Amartya Sen on Quality of Life: India vs. China
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In the most recent New York Review of Books, the Nobel Prize economist Amartya Sen writes a thought-provoking article on why (A) it's not helpful to interpret a higher rate of GNP growth than China as a sign of India "overtaking" the former and (B) GNP growth is not an end in itself, but merely a means to realize true sources of value.

On the first point, Sen argues that "while economic growth is important for enhancing living conditions, its reach and impact depend greatly on what we do with the increased income." Sen then illustrates with statistics from the World Bank and the United Nations:

Life expectancy at birth in China is 73.5 years; in India it is 64.4 years. The infant mortality rate is fifty per thousand in India, compared with just seventeen in China; the mortality rate for children under five is sixty-six per thousand for Indians and nineteen for the Chinese; and the maternal mortality rate is 230 per 100,000 live births in India and thirty-eight in China. The mean years of schooling in India were estimated to be 4.4 years, compared with 7.5 years in China. China’s adult literacy rate is 94 percent, compared with India’s 74 percent according to the preliminary tables of the 2011 census.

To reinforce his point, Sen then makes a comparison between India and Bangladesh to show how a higher GNP per capita (as opposed to rate of growth) is also a poor predictor of quality of life. Even though India's income per head is twice that of Bangladesh's:

Life expectancy in Bangladesh is 66.9 years compared with India’s 64.4. The proportion of underweight children in Bangladesh (41.3 percent) is lower than in India (43.5), and its fertility rate (2.3) is also lower than India’s (2.7). Mean years of schooling amount to 4.8 years in Bangladesh compared with India’s 4.4 years. While India is ahead of Bangladesh in the male literacy rate for the age group between fifteen and twenty-four, the female rate in Bangladesh is higher than in India. Interestingly, the female literacy rate among young Bangladeshis is actually higher than the male rate, whereas young women still have substantially lower rates than young males in India. There is much evidence to suggest that Bangladesh’s current progress has a great deal to do with the role that liberated Bangladeshi women are beginning to play in the country.

What about health? The mortality rate of children under five is sixty-six per thousand in India compared with fifty-two in Bangladesh. In infant mortality, Bangladesh has a similar advantage: it is fifty per thousand in India and forty-one in Bangladesh. While 94 percent of Bangladeshi children are immunized withDPT vaccine, only 66 percent of Indian children are. In each of these respects, Bangladesh does better than India, despite having only half of India’s per capita income.

In his second main point, Sen argues that there are meaningful comparisons between countries that have nothing to do with economic metrics. In particular, "most Indians are strongly appreciative of the democratic structure of the country, including its many political parties, systematic free elections, uncensored media, free speech, and the independent standing of the judiciary, among other characteristics of a lively democracy." In China, on the other hand, there is official "skepticism about the values of multiparty democracy and personal and political liberty." While China's advancement has been great helped by its leaders' strong commitment to eliminating poverty, undernourishment, illiteracy, and lack of health care, there is "a serious fragility in any authoritarian system of governance."

Finally, Sen ends with a sobering observation:

Yet an exaggerated concentration on the lives of the relatively prosperous, exacerbated by the Indian media, gives an unrealistically rosy picture of the lives of Indians in general. Since the fortunate group includes not only business leaders and the professional classes but also many of the country’s intellectuals, the story of unusual national advancement is widely and persistently heard. More worryingly, relatively privileged Indians can easily fall for the temptation to focus just on economic growth as a grand social benefactor for all.

Amartya Sen on Quality of Life: India vs. China | Spencer Low
 
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It's quite old thing.. still.. the numbers don't tally, with the sources wikipedia quotes
(such that the inferences change):

List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(India-64.7; Bangaldesh-64.1 ... Bangladesh would have actually less LE, against the opposite stated by the article i.e. India-64.4 and BD-66.9)

List of countries by infant mortality rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(India-60.82; Bangladesh-60.69; .... the article states that India's IMR as 66 while BD (not mentioned) is much better).

Some china's figures are also inconsistent with what wikipedia shows...IMR should be 24, not 19 etc.

That said.. BD and India are really in same boat (well actually, much of Indian subcontinent in that case).

Though diets are changing quite a bit now, the vegetarians are considerably dependent on milk as their main source of animal protein. It would be natural to expect people in BD to be eating much more fish than average Indians as a whole .. which becomes a rich source of protein.

It, perhaps has to do with religious reasons, cultural reasons etc. .. but whatever.. there a quite a few vegetrians in India. For a vegetarian diet, fulfilling the protein requirement needs special focus.. esp. milk.

The rest of the population.. which do eat fish, meat or eggs... should be much better off.
 
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Tell me how many times are we gonna continue with this China VS India game .........? 10000000000 times :hitwall:
 
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Of course...no one denies this fact that China is way ahead from India in term of all aspect of development...But again...Mr Thread poster...what about you...How long you guys will make yourself proud by using other nations T-Shirts....At least try to have something of your own...Right?????
 
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I think his article is a compliment for India over China.

Amartya Sen is a Noble economy prize winner, why don't call him back to India and became minister of economy?
 
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Of course...no one denies this fact that China is way ahead from India in term of all aspect of development...But again...Mr Thread poster...what about you...How long you guys will make yourself proud by using other nations T-Shirts....At least try to have something of your own...Right?????

Did you even bother reading the article I posted? Clearly, you haven't. Amartya Sen's one of my favorite authors and I do value his findings greatly, more reliable than most of the articles posted on this forum by unqualified writers. Secondly, the intention was not to demonize India, but to start a meaningful discussion. Unless you have enough data to make a counter argument with this nobel laureate, you might just as well STFU. This is a public forum meant for open discussion.
 
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Did you even bother reading the article I posted? Clearly, you haven't. Amartya Sen's one of my favorite authors and I do value his findings greatly, more reliable than most of the articles posted on this forum by unqualified writers. Secondly, the intention was not to demonize India, but to start a meaningful discussion. Unless you have enough data to make a counter argument with this nobel laureate, you might just as well STFU. This is a public forum meant for open discussion.

You guys from BD...always post everything to demonise India....And for the sake of the record...I read the post...But i think you did not read my post carefully....I donot undermine Amartya Sen...He is a great person..And i admit that China is far superior to India in development and success...But what i donot understand is that why people from BD are so excited with China is at the top....Just because you guys donot like India...so anything anti India...you guys will jump and down...
 
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You guys from BD...always post everything to demonise India....And for the sake of the record...I read the post...But i think you did not read my post carefully....I donot undermine Amartya Sen...He is a great person..And i admit that China is far superior to India in development and success...But what i donot understand is that why people from BD are so excited with China is at the top....Just because you guys donot like India...so anything anti India...you guys will jump and down...
Why not make friends with your neighbours ? Whats the root reason of India-BD relation like today ?
 
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Why not make friends with your neighbours ? Whats the root reason of India-BD relation like today ?

India-BD relations are very healthy as of today. Don't let the trolls on PDF fool you into thinking otherwise.
 
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I think his article is a compliment for India over China.

Amartya Sen is a Noble economy prize winner, why don't call him back to India and became minister of economy?

Yes, Mr. Sen is a Nobel Laureate and indeed a great economist.

At the same time, he also never hid his contempt for India. Rest, anyone can conclude.
 
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The Op is a Bangladeshi. Why the devil doesn't he compare his own stone-age country with China? He's either too green with envy or he probably gets an orgasm by posting such crap. :hitwall:
 
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Why not make friends with your neighbours ? Whats the root reason of India-BD relation like today ?
We are friends who are enjoying special privileges by GOB. But we can't stop the bastards who have anti India paranoia, and we can't stop some razakars from indulging in an orgy of anyone who is ready to screw India. So for the sake of reality lets just let the bastards indulge into a fantasy which will remain a we7dream ever since they lost their privilege to rape, a fantasy of their rapist father during early seventies. The rape child is just mad at the mother rather than being pissed at the rapist a$$hole who was contributor to his miserable life.
 
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India-BD relations are very healthy as of today. Don't let the trolls on PDF fool you into thinking otherwise.
I dont know Indian-BD relationship, to be honest, from the looking, a lot of Indians and BD are the same.
 
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