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Pakistani government feels weight of army's heavy hand
BY MEHREEN ZAHRA-MALIK

ISLAMABAD Fri May 23, 2014 8:16am EDT

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  • 1 OF 4. Pakistan's Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif waves to the crowd as he leaves after attending a flag raising ceremony to mark the country's 67th Independence Day in Islamabad in this August 14, 2013 file photo.

    CREDIT: REUTERS/MIAN KHURSHEED/FILES





    RELATED TOPICS


    (Reuters) - At Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's palatial offices in Islamabad this week, the army chief sat down to deliver the head of government a message he did not want to hear: The time for talks with the troublesome Pakistani Taliban was over.

    Sharif came to power a year ago promising to find a peaceful settlement with the Islamist militant group, but as round after round of talks failed, the powerful armed forces favored a military solution.

    Their patience finally ran out and, late on Tuesday afternoon, during a tense meeting, the army effectively declared it would override a crucial plank of the government's strategy and take matters into its own hands.

    "The army chief and other military officers in the room were clear on the military's policy: the last man, the last bullet," a government insider with first-hand knowledge of the meeting told Reuters.

    Asked to sum up the message General Raheel Sharif wanted to convey at the gathering, he added: "The time for talk is over."

    The next day, Pakistani forces launched rare air strikes against militants holed up in the remote, lawless tribal belt near the Afghan border. It is not clear whether Sharif authorized the operation.

    On Thursday, they backed that up with the first major ground offensive against the Taliban there, undermining Sharif's year-long attempt to end a bloody insurgency across his country through peaceful means.

    Disagreement over the militant threat is the latest row to flare up between the government and military, and relations between the two branches of power are at their lowest ebb for years, according to government officials.

    The government did say talks with the Taliban would go on.

    "We will talk with those who are ready for it and the (military) operation is being launched against those who are not ready to come to the negotiating table," spokesman Pervez Rashid told local media on Thursday.

    But the operations put the military, which has a long record of intervening in civilian rule through plots and coups, firmly back at the centre of Pakistan's security policy.

    The balance of power is shifting at a time when foreign troops are preparing to withdraw from Afghanistan, and arch-rival India has just elected a Hindu nationalist leader promising to be more assertive on the international stage.

    "This is the clearest signal yet that the army will dictate its terms now," a member of Sharif's cabinet said.

    TALIBAN ON THE OFFENSIVE

    The Pakistani Taliban, as distinct from the Afghan Taliban which is actively targeting NATO forces in Afghanistan, is believed to be behind attacks on Pakistani soldiers and civilians that have killed thousands in recent years.

    The Pakistan army has distinguished between "good" Taliban like the feared Haqqani network - who do not attack Pakistani security forces but fight in Afghanistan - and "bad" Taliban, indigenous Pakistani militants who are seeking to create an Islamic state.

    While Pakistan's military wants to go after the "bad" Taliban, it has, despite pressure from Washington, largely avoided taking on groups who launch attacks against coalition forces in Afghanistan from Pakistan's North Waziristan region.

    Prompting the latest intervention, the Pakistani Taliban have become increasingly bold, striking the army in tribal areas including a recent battle in which an army major died. Earlier this month, nine soldiers were killed in an explosion near the Afghan border.

    "We will avenge the blood of every last soldier. Talks or no talks, the army will retaliate," said one military official, who, like most others interviewed for this article, spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the subject.

    The army has ruled Pakistan for more than half of its history. Sharif himself was toppled by the army in 1999 during his previous tenure as prime minister.

    But, humiliated after a secret 2011 U.S. raid that killed Osama bin Laden on Pakistani soil, the army stood back from politics and supported last year's first democratic transition of power which brought Sharif back to office.

    Sharif maneuvered carefully, hand picking a new army chief and trying to forge a partnership with the military in the early days of his tenure, but the overtures had little lasting impact.

    TRADE, DIPLOMACY

    There are other signs of civil-military discord.

    Sharif came to power promising to rebuild relations with India, but has been under pressure to toughen his stance from hardliners at home, particularly within the army.

    The nuclear-armed neighbors have fought three wars since independence from Britain in 1947, two of them over the still-disputed Himalayan territory of Kashmir.

    Sharif's policies towards India have been heavily scrutinized; some in the army justify its hefty budget by pointing to - and, critics say, playing up - the potential threat from India.

    And despite signs the military has become more amenable to overtures from its old foe than in the past, a trade deal pushed by the prime minister and aimed at improving ties with India was cancelled at the last minute after pressure from the army, top government officials said.

    Sharif now faces a dilemma over whether to accept an invitation by Indian Prime Minister-designate Narendra Modi to attend his inauguration next week.

    The army is also bitter about the trial of former military ruler Pervez Musharraf, who ousted Sharif from power in 1999 and was arrested after he returned to Pakistan to take part in last year's election.

    Ties with Afghanistan have never been easy, but some officials believe the army wants to torpedo the government's relationship with a future Kabul administration, risking a deterioration in regional security as NATO troops prepare to leave this year.

    Generals have jealously guarded the right to dictate policy on Afghanistan, seeing friendly guerrilla groups as "assets" to blunt the influence of India there.

    TENSIONS COME TO SURFACE

    Though simmering under the surface, tensions between the government and the army spilled into the open last month when a popular journalist was shot by unknown gunmen, and his channel, Geo News, blamed the army's powerful spy agency, the Directorate of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).

    Public criticism of the shadowy ISI is almost unheard of in Pakistan. In a rare public response, the army demanded that Geo News, the country's most-watched news channel, be shut down.

    The government's media regulator has since resisted the army's demands to cancel the channel's license, which the military sees as a direct sign of defiance.

    "Everyone was looking out to see how the government would treat the army in this crisis -- as a friend or foe?" said a senior military official. "But the government allowed this to become a free-for-all, army-hunting season."

    For Sharif, buckling under military pressure is a major risk. "This is not about one TV channel but about freedom of expression and about living in a democracy," Rashid said. "We should live and let live."

    But despite putting on a brave front, officials say the government is feeling under siege.

    "Never in the last year has the government felt weaker or more vulnerable," one of Sharif's key economic advisers said. "Now every time we have to take a major decision, on India, on Afghanistan, we will have to think 'How will the army react?'"

    A serving general said the army chief would always pick the "institution over the constitution if push comes to shove," adding: "As a society and a state, we have to avoid a context in which the army is pushed to do something it doesn't want to."

    army should take over the govt to fight TTP menace: Altaf
 
Pakistani government feels weight of army's heavy hand
BY MEHREEN ZAHRA-MALIK

ISLAMABAD Fri May 23, 2014 8:16am EDT

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  • 1 OF 4. Pakistan's Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif waves to the crowd as he leaves after attending a flag raising ceremony to mark the country's 67th Independence Day in Islamabad in this August 14, 2013 file photo.

    CREDIT: REUTERS/MIAN KHURSHEED/FILES





    RELATED TOPICS


    (Reuters) - At Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's palatial offices in Islamabad this week, the army chief sat down to deliver the head of government a message he did not want to hear: The time for talks with the troublesome Pakistani Taliban was over.

    Sharif came to power a year ago promising to find a peaceful settlement with the Islamist militant group, but as round after round of talks failed, the powerful armed forces favored a military solution.

    Their patience finally ran out and, late on Tuesday afternoon, during a tense meeting, the army effectively declared it would override a crucial plank of the government's strategy and take matters into its own hands.

    "The army chief and other military officers in the room were clear on the military's policy: the last man, the last bullet," a government insider with first-hand knowledge of the meeting told Reuters.

    Asked to sum up the message General Raheel Sharif wanted to convey at the gathering, he added: "The time for talk is over."

    The next day, Pakistani forces launched rare air strikes against militants holed up in the remote, lawless tribal belt near the Afghan border. It is not clear whether Sharif authorized the operation.

    On Thursday, they backed that up with the first major ground offensive against the Taliban there, undermining Sharif's year-long attempt to end a bloody insurgency across his country through peaceful means.

    Disagreement over the militant threat is the latest row to flare up between the government and military, and relations between the two branches of power are at their lowest ebb for years, according to government officials.

    The government did say talks with the Taliban would go on.

    "We will talk with those who are ready for it and the (military) operation is being launched against those who are not ready to come to the negotiating table," spokesman Pervez Rashid told local media on Thursday.

    But the operations put the military, which has a long record of intervening in civilian rule through plots and coups, firmly back at the centre of Pakistan's security policy.

    The balance of power is shifting at a time when foreign troops are preparing to withdraw from Afghanistan, and arch-rival India has just elected a Hindu nationalist leader promising to be more assertive on the international stage.

    "This is the clearest signal yet that the army will dictate its terms now," a member of Sharif's cabinet said.

    TALIBAN ON THE OFFENSIVE

    The Pakistani Taliban, as distinct from the Afghan Taliban which is actively targeting NATO forces in Afghanistan, is believed to be behind attacks on Pakistani soldiers and civilians that have killed thousands in recent years.

    The Pakistan army has distinguished between "good" Taliban like the feared Haqqani network - who do not attack Pakistani security forces but fight in Afghanistan - and "bad" Taliban, indigenous Pakistani militants who are seeking to create an Islamic state.

    While Pakistan's military wants to go after the "bad" Taliban, it has, despite pressure from Washington, largely avoided taking on groups who launch attacks against coalition forces in Afghanistan from Pakistan's North Waziristan region.

    Prompting the latest intervention, the Pakistani Taliban have become increasingly bold, striking the army in tribal areas including a recent battle in which an army major died. Earlier this month, nine soldiers were killed in an explosion near the Afghan border.

    "We will avenge the blood of every last soldier. Talks or no talks, the army will retaliate," said one military official, who, like most others interviewed for this article, spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the subject.

    The army has ruled Pakistan for more than half of its history. Sharif himself was toppled by the army in 1999 during his previous tenure as prime minister.

    But, humiliated after a secret 2011 U.S. raid that killed Osama bin Laden on Pakistani soil, the army stood back from politics and supported last year's first democratic transition of power which brought Sharif back to office.

    Sharif maneuvered carefully, hand picking a new army chief and trying to forge a partnership with the military in the early days of his tenure, but the overtures had little lasting impact.

    TRADE, DIPLOMACY

    There are other signs of civil-military discord.

    Sharif came to power promising to rebuild relations with India, but has been under pressure to toughen his stance from hardliners at home, particularly within the army.

    The nuclear-armed neighbors have fought three wars since independence from Britain in 1947, two of them over the still-disputed Himalayan territory of Kashmir.

    Sharif's policies towards India have been heavily scrutinized; some in the army justify its hefty budget by pointing to - and, critics say, playing up - the potential threat from India.

    And despite signs the military has become more amenable to overtures from its old foe than in the past, a trade deal pushed by the prime minister and aimed at improving ties with India was cancelled at the last minute after pressure from the army, top government officials said.

    Sharif now faces a dilemma over whether to accept an invitation by Indian Prime Minister-designate Narendra Modi to attend his inauguration next week.

    The army is also bitter about the trial of former military ruler Pervez Musharraf, who ousted Sharif from power in 1999 and was arrested after he returned to Pakistan to take part in last year's election.

    Ties with Afghanistan have never been easy, but some officials believe the army wants to torpedo the government's relationship with a future Kabul administration, risking a deterioration in regional security as NATO troops prepare to leave this year.

    Generals have jealously guarded the right to dictate policy on Afghanistan, seeing friendly guerrilla groups as "assets" to blunt the influence of India there.

    TENSIONS COME TO SURFACE

    Though simmering under the surface, tensions between the government and the army spilled into the open last month when a popular journalist was shot by unknown gunmen, and his channel, Geo News, blamed the army's powerful spy agency, the Directorate of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).

    Public criticism of the shadowy ISI is almost unheard of in Pakistan. In a rare public response, the army demanded that Geo News, the country's most-watched news channel, be shut down.

    The government's media regulator has since resisted the army's demands to cancel the channel's license, which the military sees as a direct sign of defiance.

    "Everyone was looking out to see how the government would treat the army in this crisis -- as a friend or foe?" said a senior military official. "But the government allowed this to become a free-for-all, army-hunting season."

    For Sharif, buckling under military pressure is a major risk. "This is not about one TV channel but about freedom of expression and about living in a democracy," Rashid said. "We should live and let live."

    But despite putting on a brave front, officials say the government is feeling under siege.

    "Never in the last year has the government felt weaker or more vulnerable," one of Sharif's key economic advisers said. "Now every time we have to take a major decision, on India, on Afghanistan, we will have to think 'How will the army react?'"

    A serving general said the army chief would always pick the "institution over the constitution if push comes to shove," adding: "As a society and a state, we have to avoid a context in which the army is pushed to do something it doesn't want to."

    army should take over the govt to fight TTP menace: Altaf
Hey W.11/Fool.1 ....English Govt has confiscated ULLUTAF's British Passport and ceased all his Bank Accounts,where is he getting the money from to pay for the running cost of his INTERNATIONAL Headquarters of Murder-Bhatta (private Ltd) Company?.
 
Who doesnt know that Pakistan has 2 centers of power and that Pak army is the largest and strongest party of Pakistan?
Though on TTP issue I would agree that army suggestions should heeded by the government.

Unfortunately Pak Army's clout has stopped the Pak government from forming a strong bond with India.Its high time Pak army gave up its age old enmity with India over "nothing".

@Leader
 
Who doesnt know that Pakistan has 2 centers of power and that Pak army is the largest and strongest party of Pakistan?
Though on TTP issue I would agree that army suggestions should heeded by the government.

Unfortunately Pak Army's clout has stopped the Pak government from forming a strong bond with India.Its high time Pak army gave up its age old enmity with India over "nothing".

@Leader
Arey Bhai aap konsay bond ki baat kar rahay hein? ye Tanqeed kar ke aur ek dusray ko neecha dikha ke konsa "Bond" banana chahtay hein aap?
Ye jo "signature" aap ne likha hai "lollipop" waghera, Bazahir to aap ek Parhay likhay insaan nazar aatay hein, to apni taleem ko tanqeed mein istemaal karne ki jaga aap "Bond" banany mein istemal kyun nahi kartay?
Bhai, Boht bari ghalti hogai India Pakistan ko alag kar ke. Azaadi to asal mein ek jhoot hai, kyun ke ab tak "Insaniat" ghulaam bani hui hai "Do Qaumi Jhagray" mein. Ye TTP kia hai janab? kia aap ne kabhi socha hai "Talib" ki hesiat kia hoti hai?
Aur Rahi baat inter-continental politics ki, to na to mene kabhi dekha Talib kese hein na to aap ne dekha, Bajaye uskay jo "Media" ne portray kia.
Hum Aql-o-Sha'oor walay insan, sab samajhtay hein ye TTP kia drama hai aur ye "Altaf BHAI" kon hain. Is Siasat mein to siasat dan mazay kar rahay hein, Piss kon raha hai? Middle and Lower class from both the countries. Bus Kardijiye! Khuda ka waasta. Poori dunya mein Angraiz rehtay hein, Chinese Rehtay hein Japanese Etc.. Waahid India aur Pakistan esi jagahein hein jahan Hindu rehtay hein , Muslim rehtay hein , Bangaali rehtay hein , gujrati rehtay hein , balochi , sindhi , pathan , muhajir arey buss kardein ghalti hogai Azaadi lekar. Akhir kab tak aap ek dusray ka sukoon barbaad karogay? kab tak tanqeed karogay? Mushkil se 60-70 saal ki zindagi mein 30 40 sal to aap har cheez pe tanqeed mein guzaar detey ho to Hasil wusul kia raha 30 saal mein?
 
Arey Bhai aap konsay bond ki baat kar rahay hein? ye Tanqeed kar ke aur ek dusray ko neecha dikha ke konsa "Bond" banana chahtay hein aap?
Humne kissi ko neecha dikhane ki koshish nahi hai.:sick:

OB909Alpha said:
Ye jo "signature" aap ne likha hai "lollipop" waghera, Bazahir to aap ek Parhay likhay insaan nazar aatay hein, to apni taleem ko tanqeed mein istemaal karne ki jaga aap "Bond" banany mein istemal kyun nahi kartay?
Humne kaafi koshish ki "bond" banane ki toh humme double agent bulaya gaya. :P

OB909Alpha said:
Bhai, Boht bari ghalti hogai India Pakistan ko alag kar ke. Azaadi to asal mein ek jhoot hai, kyun ke ab tak "Insaniat" ghulaam bani hui hai "Do Qaumi Jhagray" mein.
Bilkul sahi janab!!!

OB909Alpha said:
Ye TTP kia hai janab? kia aap ne kabhi socha hai "Talib" ki hesiat kia hoti hai?
Aur Rahi baat inter-continental politics ki, to na to mene kabhi dekha Talib kese hein na to aap ne dekha, Bajaye uskay jo "Media" ne portray kia.
Hum Aql-o-Sha'oor walay insan, sab samajhtay hein ye TTP kia drama hai aur ye "Altaf BHAI" kon hain. Is Siasat mein to siasat dan mazay kar rahay hein, Piss kon raha hai? Middle and Lower class from both the countries. Bus Kardijiye! Khuda ka waasta. Poori dunya mein Angraiz rehtay hein, Chinese Rehtay hein Japanese Etc.. Waahid India aur Pakistan esi jagahein hein jahan Hindu rehtay hein , Muslim rehtay hein , Bangaali rehtay hein , gujrati rehtay hein , balochi , sindhi , pathan , muhajir arey buss kardein ghalti hogai Azaadi lekar. Akhir kab tak aap ek dusray ka sukoon barbaad karogay? kab tak tanqeed karogay? Mushkil se 60-70 saal ki zindagi mein 30 40 sal to aap har cheez pe tanqeed mein guzaar detey ho to Hasil wusul kia raha 30 saal mein?
Aaap kaun hai???
Kahan se aaye hai???
Bowdown!!!

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Just what I think.... Dividing India into 2 parts was a humongous mistake.
 
Mujhe Allah se sirf ek hi cheez chahye hai aur wo hai hum sab ki "Unity".
mujhse nahi dekha jaata ke jo log Centuries tak saath rahay bus 60-65 saal ki doori ne itna zehr bhar dia unke beech?
Kia aap ki aqal ye nahi dikhaati apko ke jis angraiz ne hum logon ko ghulaam rakha wo aaj bhi hum pe musallat hai lekin dusri shaklon mein. Yehi east-india company kisi waqt mein Mohtaaj hoti thi sub-continent ki, aur bus dekhtay hi dekhtay hum unke mohtaaj hotay gaye aur aaj ye waqt agaya hai ke agar hum Angraizi bolay baghair apne din ko DIN nahi samajhtay.
Kia ye Ghulaami nahi ke unka asar hum pe itni dair tak rehgaya?
Jo zehr wo hum mein bharr gaye wo aaj tak cure nahi hosaka.
Yahan Uljhay Uljhay Roop Boht
Par Asli Kam Be-Roop Boht! :)
 
Arey Bhai aap konsay bond ki baat kar rahay hein? ye Tanqeed kar ke aur ek dusray ko neecha dikha ke konsa "Bond" banana chahtay hein aap?
Ye jo "signature" aap ne likha hai "lollipop" waghera, Bazahir to aap ek Parhay likhay insaan nazar aatay hein, to apni taleem ko tanqeed mein istemaal karne ki jaga aap "Bond" banany mein istemal kyun nahi kartay?
Bhai, Boht bari ghalti hogai India Pakistan ko alag kar ke. Azaadi to asal mein ek jhoot hai, kyun ke ab tak "Insaniat" ghulaam bani hui hai "Do Qaumi Jhagray" mein. Ye TTP kia hai janab? kia aap ne kabhi socha hai "Talib" ki hesiat kia hoti hai?
Aur Rahi baat inter-continental politics ki, to na to mene kabhi dekha Talib kese hein na to aap ne dekha, Bajaye uskay jo "Media" ne portray kia.
Hum Aql-o-Sha'oor walay insan, sab samajhtay hein ye TTP kia drama hai aur ye "Altaf BHAI" kon hain. Is Siasat mein to siasat dan mazay kar rahay hein, Piss kon raha hai? Middle and Lower class from both the countries. Bus Kardijiye! Khuda ka waasta. Poori dunya mein Angraiz rehtay hein, Chinese Rehtay hein Japanese Etc.. Waahid India aur Pakistan esi jagahein hein jahan Hindu rehtay hein , Muslim rehtay hein , Bangaali rehtay hein , gujrati rehtay hein , balochi , sindhi , pathan , muhajir arey buss kardein ghalti hogai Azaadi lekar. Akhir kab tak aap ek dusray ka sukoon barbaad karogay? kab tak tanqeed karogay? Mushkil se 60-70 saal ki zindagi mein 30 40 sal to aap har cheez pe tanqeed mein guzaar detey ho to Hasil wusul kia raha 30 saal mein?
Abey O khabees Materway tujhey sakoon chahiye to kisi Qaberstan me koi udh khuli qaber dhoondh or usmain baith ja kabhi na bahir nikalne ke liey . murdood ki oulad. ager tumhain azadi raas nahin atee,to shanti ke liey Ganga kinare kisi Banarsi Ghat per ashnan ker ja ke,LAANTI ke LAANTI PILLE.
 
Abey O khabees Materway tujhey sakoon chahiye to kisi Qaberstan me koi udh khuli qaber dhoondh or usmain baith ja kabhi na bahir nikalne ke liey . murdood ki oulad. ager tumhain azadi raas nahin atee,to shanti ke liey Ganga kinare kisi Banarsi Ghat per ashnan ker ja ke,LAANTI ke LAANTI PILLE.
Arey yehi Alfaz mujhe sun'nay thay aur dekhna tha ke waqai us Angraiz ka zehr baaqi hai kaafi. Koi baat nahi meray bhai! Allah ki zaat boht bari hai aur mujhe sukoon ke liye kahin janay ki zarurat nahi. Quran Pak mein likha hai ke "ALLAH meri sheh rag se bhi zyada mujhse qareeb hein. To mera sukoon bhi mujhse utna hi qareeb hai, uske liye mujhe Ganga Jamna Mandir Temple Church waghera janay ki zarurat nahi hai. Aur haqeeqat ko face karna seekho bachon ki tarah cheekho nahi facts and figures ki baat karo. :)

Abey O khabees Materway tujhey sakoon chahiye to kisi Qaberstan me koi udh khuli qaber dhoondh or usmain baith ja kabhi na bahir nikalne ke liey . murdood ki oulad. ager tumhain azadi raas nahin atee,to shanti ke liey Ganga kinare kisi Banarsi Ghat per ashnan ker ja ke,LAANTI ke LAANTI PILLE.
AREY WAH!
Naam aap ne NANA likha hua hai aur harkatein nawason waali? :p


Abey O khabees Materway tujhey sakoon chahiye to kisi Qaberstan me koi udh khuli qaber dhoondh or usmain baith ja kabhi na bahir nikalne ke liey . murdood ki oulad. ager tumhain azadi raas nahin atee,to shanti ke liey Ganga kinare kisi Banarsi Ghat per ashnan ker ja ke,LAANTI ke LAANTI PILLE.
Aur Azaadi ki baat wo kartay hein jo Azaad rehtay hein. As your details show you live in Britain, to Zahir hai bhai jaan Aag to lagegi na. I appreciate aap namak halal ho angraizon ke. Lekin bhai esi bhi kia dushmani apne mulk se ke such se itni jalan hogai?
 
Arey Bhai aap konsay bond ki baat kar rahay hein? ye Tanqeed kar ke aur ek dusray ko neecha dikha ke konsa "Bond" banana chahtay hein aap?
Ye jo "signature" aap ne likha hai "lollipop" waghera, Bazahir to aap ek Parhay likhay insaan nazar aatay hein, to apni taleem ko tanqeed mein istemaal karne ki jaga aap "Bond" banany mein istemal kyun nahi kartay?
Bhai, Boht bari ghalti hogai India Pakistan ko alag kar ke. Azaadi to asal mein ek jhoot hai, kyun ke ab tak "Insaniat" ghulaam bani hui hai "Do Qaumi Jhagray" mein. Ye TTP kia hai janab? kia aap ne kabhi socha hai "Talib" ki hesiat kia hoti hai?
Aur Rahi baat inter-continental politics ki, to na to mene kabhi dekha Talib kese hein na to aap ne dekha, Bajaye uskay jo "Media" ne portray kia.
Hum Aql-o-Sha'oor walay insan, sab samajhtay hein ye TTP kia drama hai aur ye "Altaf BHAI" kon hain. Is Siasat mein to siasat dan mazay kar rahay hein, Piss kon raha hai? Middle and Lower class from both the countries. Bus Kardijiye! Khuda ka waasta. Poori dunya mein Angraiz rehtay hein, Chinese Rehtay hein Japanese Etc.. Waahid India aur Pakistan esi jagahein hein jahan Hindu rehtay hein , Muslim rehtay hein , Bangaali rehtay hein , gujrati rehtay hein , balochi , sindhi , pathan , muhajir arey buss kardein ghalti hogai Azaadi lekar. Akhir kab tak aap ek dusray ka sukoon barbaad karogay? kab tak tanqeed karogay? Mushkil se 60-70 saal ki zindagi mein 30 40 sal to aap har cheez pe tanqeed mein guzaar detey ho to Hasil wusul kia raha 30 saal mein?

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Why is Nawaz Sharif taking so long to decide whether he wants to come for Modi's wearing in ceremony or not ? The longer he takes the more India's suspicions regarding Pak army's heavy hand behind the government are increasing.
 
Why is Nawaz Sharif taking so long to decide whether he wants to come for Modi's wearing in ceremony or not ? The longer he takes the more India's suspicions regarding Pak army's heavy hand behind the government are increasing.

you are saying as if you are worried if nawaz doesn't come modi's baraat will be postponed :omghaha:
 
Arey yehi Alfaz mujhe sun'nay thay aur dekhna tha ke waqai us Angraiz ka zehr baaqi hai kaafi. Koi baat nahi meray bhai! Allah ki zaat boht bari hai aur mujhe sukoon ke liye kahin janay ki zarurat nahi. Quran Pak mein likha hai ke "ALLAH meri sheh rag se bhi zyada mujhse qareeb hein. To mera sukoon bhi mujhse utna hi qareeb hai, uske liye mujhe Ganga Jamna Mandir Temple Church waghera janay ki zarurat nahi hai. Aur haqeeqat ko face karna seekho bachon ki tarah cheekho nahi facts and figures ki baat karo. :)


AREY WAH!
Naam aap ne NANA likha hua hai aur harkatein nawason waali? :p



Aur Azaadi ki baat wo kartay hein jo Azaad rehtay hein. As your details show you live in Britain, to Zahir hai bhai jaan Aag to lagegi na. I appreciate aap namak halal ho angraizon ke. Lekin bhai esi bhi kia dushmani apne mulk se ke such se itni jalan hogai?
Tumhain aur tumhari qabeel ke Pakistan ke nimak haramion ki bimarion,dukhon aur mahroomion ka jo elaj maine tajweez kia, ek mujarub elaj hey.....Ganga kinarey ashnan....humrah le jao kala bhainsa ALTAFA aur BHARWA SHAKEEL UR PEEKDAN.
 
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It is quite a mystery how he is taking so long. Is it the army ?
Be honest..don't you think modi will get the impression,that he can repeat his Gujrati bloody performance and get away with,because n sharif is really not an astute politician,but a lucky business man?.
 

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