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Allah - the supreme, but is god, different in other religions ?

So even if you wipe the concept of religion of the face of the earth, wars will still remain if not increase, and in my honest opinion they will increase.
At least there will be one less reason to kill innocents, for.


If you think about it, religion is the only thing that holds us back. The morality of if you kill someone, commit any kinds of sins (theft, rape, bribery etc) you will be caught tomorrow no matter what. Because God is always watching.
Ah, now the world can have some peace, knowing that the fear of ever watchful god and divine retribution will stop a jihadi from picking up that AK-47.

~ Peace ~
 
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One has to belive in a faith a religion, once you start to disbelief in god and his existence you become- an animal -as then you loose the meaning of whats good and whats bad, the judgment is lost, your goal achievement all gone, and hope dies,
A hope is must for a human to live, or else we will be just like animals, with no future.
You may pray to him in allah or jesus or guru nanak sahib,
The meaning of all the religion is same - Humanity, be a good human and love. you will find your god any shape.
for meaning of religion and truth - read a bit from:Shaykh Nazim al-Qubrusi al-Haqqani
 
If you think about it, religion is the only thing that holds us back. The morality of if you kill someone, commit any kinds of sins (theft, rape, bribery etc) you will be caught tomorrow no matter what. Because God is always watching.

The problem arises when religious teachings are used to justify evil.

For example, religion can be used to justify enslavement of womenfolk of enemies defeated in Jihad, rape of those enslaved women, and selling those enslaved women in the slave market.

See this Hadith (Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 34, Number 432)

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

that while he was sitting with Allah's Apostle he said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence."
 
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Religion and Gods are the tools of lazy people. To find excuse with all the ill they create. Well even if we believe that there is God, a good power, then definitely there should be a bad power, named Satan, to oppose that right? And look at whats happening in the world around... everywhere bad things are happening.. does that mean God is under house arrest by Satan. :cheesy::devil:
Communism and atheism are the best option for this. Look at China they are progressing becoz they never wast there time in church, mosque or temple. But they work for their well being and they are progressing. Look at Russia. They was strong when they practiced Communism and Atheism. But they collapsed when they allowed religion to flourish there.
Well im sorry if this post is annoying to anyone here.
 
The problem arises when religious teachings are used to justify evil.

For example, religion can be used to justify enslavement of womenfolk of enemies defeated in Jihad, rape of those enslaved women, and selling those enslaved women in the slave market.

See this Hadith (Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 34, Number 432)



Better not to take things out of context.

When Islam was reveled to Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), slavery was a worldwide common social phenomenon; it was much older than Islam. Slavery was deeply rooted in every society to the extent that it was impossible to imagine a civilized society without slaves.

In spite of this social fact, Islam was the first religion to recognize slavery as a social illness that needed to be addressed. Since slavery was deeply rooted in the society, Islam did not abolish it at once. Rather, Islam treated slavery in the same manner it treated other social illnesses. Islam followed the same methodology of gradual elimination in dealing with this social disease as it did with other social illnesses, for example: the prohibition of alcohol in three steps.

It was a war custom in the past to take men and women as captives and then turn them into slaves. Islam did not initiate it; rather, it was something in practice long ago before the advent of Islam. And when Islam came, it tried to eradicate this practice, bit by bit. So it first restricted it to the reciprocal practice of war, in the sense that Muslims took war captives just as the enemies did with Muslims.

But as it aimed at putting an end to such issue, Islam laid down rules which would eventually lead to eradicating the practice. So it allowed Muslims to have intercourse with slave women taken as captives of just and legitimate wars. In so doing, the woman would automatically become free if she got pregnant. What's more, her child would also become free.

Not only that, Islam also ordered a Muslim to treat the slave woman in every respect as if she were his wife. She should be well fed, clothed and given due protection. In the family environment, she had the opportunity to learn about Islam and was free to accept it or reject it. She also had the opportunity to earn her freedom for she could be ransomed.

Some people misunderstand the wisdom behind the permissibility of having female slaves and think that it is meant to unleash men’s desires and give them more enjoyment. Never! That is not the point! It is, rather, means of freeing slaves; and this is clarified above in the fact that if a master got a female slave pregnant, then he could neither sell her nor give her away as a present. And if he died, she would not be considered part of his property. She'd receive her freedom and her baby would also be free.

As for marrying slaves, it was something permissible under two conditions: first, if one was unable to pay the dowry of a free woman. Second, if there were fear of committing adultery if one doesn’t get married. This is clarified by the following verse: “And whose is not able to afford to marry free, believing women, let them marry from the believing maids whom your right hands possess. This is for him among you who feareth to commit sin. But to have patience would be better for you.” (An-Nisaa’: 25)

This verse shows that Muslim men should abstain from illicit relations and seek enjoyment through marriage to free women or through their female slaves.

Thus major hindrances in the complete abolition and prohibition of the institute of slavery were:
1. The existing internationally accepted social status given to the slaves and their prevalent moral training and position;
2. The social acceptability of interacting with slaves;
3. The macro economic situation in the societies (including the lack of employment opportunities for the unproductive slave population);
4. The serious socio-moral and political implications that were likely to follow a hasty action in this regard; and
5. The international situation​
The basic directives of Islam in this regard were aimed at:
1. Promoting freeing of capable slaves through various directives;
2. Improving the social status and the moral standards of the slaves;
3. Abolishing any future chances of converting any free men into slaves; and finally
4. Awarding the legal right to each and every capable slave, who wanted to live his/her life as a free person, to earn his freedom.​

These directives amounted to the best possible solution to the problem with the least potential of any negative repercussions on the society as well as the individuals. During this process, it was necessary not only to better the social status of the slaves in the society but also to recognize the relationship between the slaves and their masters.

The first woman in the history was daughter of Hatim Tai ‘Sufana’, who was taken as a prisoner but was released by the Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) . Hatimtai formally Hatem ibn Abdellah ibn Sa'ad at-Ta'i was a famous pre-Islamic Arabian poet,. He was a Christian, and belonged to the Ta'i Arabian tribe. Stories about his extreme generosity have made him an icon to Arabs up till the present day.

So my dear sir, one thing picked out of context, can be very devastating.
 
Religion and Gods are the tools of lazy people. To find excuse with all the ill they create. Well even if we believe that there is God, a good power, then definitely there should be a bad power, named Satan, to oppose that right? And look at whats happening in the world around... everywhere bad things are happening.. does that mean God is under house arrest by Satan. :cheesy::devil:.
Communism and atheism are the best option for this. Look at China they are progressing becoz they never wast there time in church, mosque or temple. But they work for their well being and they are progressing. Look at Russia. They was strong when they practiced Communism and Atheism. But they collapsed when they allowed religion to flourish there.
Well im sorry if this post is annoying to anyone here.

More people have been killed in the last couple of hundred years due to no religious wars then have been due to religious wars...capitalism,Communism,democarcy,secular ect has lead us to the murder and death of hundreds of millions of people.

"Look at Russia. They was strong when they practiced Communism and Atheism. But they collapsed when they allowed religion to flourish there."

I dont think so.....capitalist ideology replaced Communism not the russian church.
 
answer to DOES GOD EXIST? from a muslim point of view

 
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Better not to take things out of context.
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This verse shows that Muslim men should abstain from illicit relations and seek enjoyment through marriage to free women or through their female slaves.
Since the Mods have allowed Salik's post without a murmur, I hope this response will be granted the same indulgence.

Salik, you must look at it from the girl's point of view. Imagine it was your sister. The girl has just seen her brothers and father being slaughtered by Jihadis. Then, she is captured and raped, and sold on the slave market.

You seem to think that there is a context in which such conduct is legitimate. Others will say that no amount of contextualizing can justify it. Even if you say that pre-Islamic Arab society was barbaric (which I do not accept), nobody was forcing the Prophet to personally participate in such behavior.

In Islam, the Prophet Muhammad is called "al-Insān al-Kāmil", the epitome of human perfection. One would expect different behavior from somebody who is held up as an exemplar.

It is not that the people of those times were all brutes. Six centuries before Muhammad we had Jesus. Can you imagine Jesus telling his Apostles that is OK for them to kidnap and rape? Twelve centuries before Muhammad we had the Buddha. Is it imaginable that the Buddha would tell his disciples to slaughter apostates and blasphemers?

So I think we'll just have to agree to disagree.
 
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The sole Reality expresses Itself in infinitely varied forms and aspects.

It would be more accurate to say that Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva symbolize aspects of Prakriti or Creation. Brahma symbolizes creation, Vishnu symbolizes preservation, and Shiva symbolizes destruction. These aspects are inherent in Nature. That which is born has to die.
Yeah but they are beings, with stories, lives, its not just a symbol.

In Islam things are not that vague, things are still open to interpretation but you can't change the plot in whichever way it suits you in the moment. The only way Islam, acknowledges other religions is that in their conception, they were similar monotheistic religions and over time they were edited by man.

We've seen this example time n time again with monotheistic religions as well. For example, with the Israelis and the golden calph, or the council of of Nicea where present day Christianity was "created" 200 or some years after Jesus, or the editing done to Judaism by Emperor Hezeckiah.

We've seen the editing trend in religions much closer to Islam. And we recognize that their practices and view of God was similar to Islams but has not changed. Hinduism may not be much different, only much more older so a lot more alterations.
 
Yeah but they are beings, with stories, lives, its not just a symbol.

The stories are also symbolic. As an example, there is the story of "Samudra Manthan", the churning of the ocean by the "Gods" and "Demons". The story and an interpretation of its symbolic significance is described here: Samudra manthan - Wikipedia .

There are also other stories such as those in the Mahabharata. Krishna is sometimes called a "God" but I think a more correct term would be an "Avatar", which means a fully Self-realized, enlightened soul.

The Mahabharata probably does have a historical basis, but IMHO the primary aim of the author Vyas was to instruct through the medium of those stories. So a faithful description of actual historical incidents was probably not the goal.

Actually, the literal meaning of "Avatar" is the descent of Divinity into a human form. In a sense all humans are "Avatars". But in the ordinary person, Divinity is obscured by Ignorance, Delusion.

The goal of each soul is attain Self-realization by removing that Ignorance. This is supposed to be a process of evolution that can take take more than one lifetime.

Obviously I cannot prove the veracity of reincarnation here. But the numerous accounts of past-life memories and near-death experiences may give some food for thought. :) The book "Life after Life" by Dr Raymond Moody has some interesting case studies.
 
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Obviously I cannot prove the veracity of reincarnation here. But the numerous accounts of past-life memories and near-death experiences may give some food for thought. :) The book "Life after Life" by Dr Raymond Moody has some interesting case studies.

I heard a pretty good explanation for the reasons for past-life memories which says that it is the memories of our past ancestors that is carried down to us through DNA-cells ect that we are sometimes able to access.
 
I heard a pretty good explanation for the reasons for past-life memories which says that it is the memories of our past ancestors that is carried down to us through DNA-cells ect that we are sometimes able to access.

Since we leave our DNA behind with our dead bodies, I don't see how DNA can possibly transmit past life memories. In a new life, the DNA would be quite different.

I would very strongly recommend the book "I Have Lived Before" by Swedish author Sture Lonnerstrand.

It is probably the best case study out there, about a little girl in Delhi, who claimed to remember her past life in Mathura. It was a very meticulously documented case. The inquiry process was very thorough and was conducted by a committee of the highest reliabilty. Absolutely outstanding book, very well written, you will not be able to put it down once you start reading. Read it and decide for yourself.
 
Been long time since I took religious classes in college but both Islam and Christiany accept that the God they worship is Yehwah,, the same God as the Jews,,,,Jews, Christains and Muslims have the same God and much of the Quran and Bible contain the same wording as the Torah.....the differance seems to be in the details, such as Jesus for the Christians,,, and Muhammad ibn ‘Abdullāh, for Islam...personally I cant see enough differance to be hateing or killing each other about the details...
 

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