ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[beijingwalker]

freedom of speech,human rights, freedom are all bs western tools! it was with the help of these tools west normalized and legitimized killing of millions of Muslims!

so **** their standards!

Freedom of speech when you speak their language

Uighur girl's twitter was banned for speaking of real Xinjiang

 

[PakAlp]

wtf do you mean with "my research"! are you serious!


you wish LOL, Uighurs are Chinese not Turks, nowadays China is practicaly the size of an empire so it's only natural for such a huge country to have several ethnicities.



you are suggesting that China should kick the Uighurs out of China, that will never happen, China will definitly not do that rediculous suggestion if yours of ethnic cleansing of the Uighurs, they were born in China and they can and will stay in their homeland for as long as the earth exists.


I'm sorry to tell you this but the GDP per capita of Xinjiang is double that of Azarbaijan, no person in his right mind would leave his home to live in a much poorer place, if a Uighur individual is not content with the living standards in Xinjiang the he is much more likely to go to an eastern province such as Jiangsu where the GDP per capita is double that of Turkey than get out of China to poorer countries. and please don't even mention Pakistan, not only is Pakistan a close ally of China for decades now so the chances of Pakistan doing something that damages their alliance are zero but also the GDP per capita of Xinjiang is like six times that of Pakistan so yeah no mass immigration will happen.

Well the information i found, it seems something wrong is going on. Are you saying everything is lovey dovey.

Ok but ill advice you to read their history. They are part of the Turkic community, with their own culture.

I know China GDP, I was suggesting if they are actually being treated like dogs and noone is helping them then they should migrate to neighbouring Muslim countries like they done before, you should know hundreds of thousands migrated before. Like the Burma Muslims, who are being burnt alive or will you deny that too.

 

[obj 705A]

Well the information i found

cool story bro.

I know China GDP, I was suggesting if they are actually being treated like dogs and noone is helping them then they should migrate to neighbouring Muslim countries like they done before

and since they are not doing that (ie: migrating to neighboring countries) at least not in any significamt numbers then that just means they aren't being "treated like dogs".

 

[SpaceMan18]

America over here acting like they care about Muslims *COUGH COUGH Iraq,Libya etc

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Major western media are saying Uighurs Muslims are mistreated, including many independent people. According to my research something very bad is happening. China admits they have special vocational schools but they say its voluntary. So special schools for Muslims do exist in order to integrate them in to the Chinese culture and way of life. The uighurs are Turks and have their own culture, religion, traditions. I can understand why China must be taking this as a threat. Things like forcing women to have sex with Chinese men, eating pork etc. Disgusting. Shame on Muslim countries if they know its happening but are staying quiet. This is worse than Israel treatment of Palestinians.

The Muslim Turk countries need to give asylum to all the Uighur population. Around 12 Million migrating to 6 odd countries shouldn't be a problem, we have 1 million living in Pakistan.

Major Western media outlets also claimed that Iraq had WMD that could destroy Europe in 30 mins..........

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Come on, that tweet itself proves that his account is Western government propaganda.

I am a Muslim, don't have beard, am leftist but am critical of Chinese political and economic system ( which is not truly communist ) and am also critical of Western political and economic systems. As I said, the tweet is Western government propaganda.

Any proof of that?

Also is this talking about you?

Why Does the Anti-Imperial Left So Often End Up Denying Genocide?

From the Soviet Union to China, Bosnia to the Uyghurs, CJ Werleman traces a historic tendency that turns a blind eye to international crimes

bylinetimes.com

Consulate Cables Leak: Documents Show Chinese Communist Party Justifying Brutality Against Uyghurs

CJ Werleman reveals Beijing's propaganda efforts to cover-up its repression of millions of Chinese Muslims

bylinetimes.com

Twenty-Two Lies
The Chinese consulate in Istanbul, Turkey, sent a packet of documents and files to unknown recipients on 5 July 2020.

In the Turkish language, and under the subject heading ‘Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region’, the body of the email reads:

“Today we have prepared you 22 lies about Xinjiang and its truth. In addition, we have translated the videos of the terrorist incidents in Xinjiang and the real faces of those who claim that some of their ‘relatives have disappeared’. We have translated into Turkish and present them for your information.”

The Chinese consulate in Istanbul claims that the “22 lies” told about Beijing’s crackdown on Uyghur Muslims in Xinjiang include:

1. Vocational education and training centres in Xinjiang being “concentration camps” that imprison more than a million Uyghurs.
2. Vocational education and training centres in Xinjiang implementing a policy of “political incitement and intimidation” on Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities.
3. Vocational education and training centres not being in a good condition and these centres lacking medical facilities. Trainees being subjected to forced political incitement and torture and being deprived of their rights to practice their religious traditions and use local ethnic languages among themselves.
4. The prisoners in the camps in Xinjiang including the permanent residents of the US and Australia.
5. Special operations carried out by Xinjiang against violent terrorist activities aiming to suppress ethnic minorities under the pretext of fighting terrorists.
6. China restricting Uyghurs’ freedom of communication and movement in Xinjiang to combat terrorism and prevent radicalisation.
7. Xinjiang having extensive oversight of local ethnic minorities.
8. Collective forced labour against ethnic minorities taking place in Xinjiang.
9. Many mosques being destroyed in Xinjiang.
10. The cemeteries of ethnic minorities being destroyed in some parts of Xinjiang.
11. The purpose of the solidarity campaign for minority ethnic groups in Xinjiang being to observe minority groups.
12. The Xinjiang government forcibly sending Uyghur children to boarding schools and forcibly detaching them from their families.
13. The Chinese Government forcing abortion and contraception onto Uyghur and other minority ethnic groups in Xinjiang.
14. The Chinese Government exerting pressure on Muslims.
15. The Chinese Government attempting to destroy Muslims through COVID-19.
16. Rumors about “missing persons” on some media or social media platforms about the “lost” contacts or “lost” families and friends of Uyghurs abroad in Xinjiang.
17. China using passport renewal as a weapon to force Uyghurs abroad to return to China, where they are detained without trial.
18. A research Report on ‘Karakaş List: Analysis of China’s Detention Movement in Xinjiang’.
19. Thirty relatives of Rebiya Kadeer were arrested without trial.
20. Families of “activists” such as Puerhaiti Jiaodaiti, Elapati Aierken and Zaomure Dawuti have been disturbed, imprisoned or arbitrarily detained.
21. Mutalif Nurmemet died nine days after leaving the vocational training centre. Uyghur writer Nurmemet Tohti died in the camp. Sayragül Savutbay was tortured in a camp before escaping from China. Uyghur musician and poet Abdurehim Heyit was sentenced to eight years in prison and died in the second year of his sentence.
22. The comic What Happens to Me tells the experiences of Uyghur woman Mihrigül Tursun, who escaped from the vocational training centre in Xinjiang. She claims that she witnessed the death of nine women during her detention and that her younger brother, who was held in the training centre, died from torture.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Twitter is obliged by Indian laws to remove any content from Indian viewers that the Indian government deems unlawful. Failure to do so will result in the prosecution of Twitter employees in India.
In India, the government has the power to censor internet content from anyone living in India.
So yes there is no freedom of speech in India.

In the US, the government has no such powers only the courts do.

Do you have any evidence to prove..

1. Twitter suspended these accounts to censor the content
2. The US government compelled Twitter to block this account?

Agree, people forget that even the Indian government isn't that much different from the CCP when it comes to censoring social media comments from western platforms made by Indians that they deem not favourable to them. In this regard they are getting more like China than a western democracy. Just look at the way their government reacted recently forcing twitter to delete any comments made by India in regards to criticism by Indians of their handling of the covid debacle. Just one of many examples. It's actually surprising that they have been able to get away with such things without getting called out on that much from our side. So i don't think they have much higher ground to even talk much about the Chinese in this regard, since they are getting more and more similar to them.

 

[mike2000 is back]

LOL those 2 "uighur girl" are obvious propaganda bots. How do I know?

1. You can't go to youtube from China unless you use a VPN (same with pk defense) & using VPN is punishable in China, so that means they have government permission because if not that mean there's 2 opening in a concentration camp near them.

2. They claim to be from Uighur but their youtube site are listed in Hong Kong, most likely in order to get monetized but still the claim of just showing people how beautiful Xinjiang is already suspicious.

3. They were followed immediately by CCP higher ups and even higher ups from CGTN on twitter. So there's already a red flag right there.

4. Is just an opinion of mine but they don't look normal their movements and mannerism looks forced and they look like they are just reading a cue cards from behind the camera.

Here's their video & a fair warning though it's cringe

If you want to follow a good Uyghur account that's not a propaganda here's one:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1392722062326763522

LOL I've watched similar videos about Xinjiang from Chinese sources and it's indeed cringe and even funny. The thing is the Chinese are very poor in propaganda, their propaganda are so bad that even a lay man can usually tell that it's obviously scripted, in fact even their global news channel/media geared for international audience like CGTN/CCTV/New China etc are the same. Sometimes their journalists even come across as amateurs the way they present a program compared to those at BBC, CNN, AL Jazeera, RT, DW, France 24 etc. So im not surprise from the videos you posted above.
Anyway, i think the fact that the Chinese government has insulated the country's internet environment to that of globe for so long as also had its fair share of blame. The Chinese internet community is locked up due to this, and can only interreact with their foreign peers through VPN(illegal officially) which not many Chinese use. This has also limited the voice of Chinese people from being heard internationally as well, since how do you make your voice/point heard if you cant even interreact with others internationally? So ironically that has been an unintended consequence of the great firewall and censorship, so anything that comes out of China is automatically taken/viewed with suspicion since it's mostly state owned media Channel that are allowed in China anyway and so people take everything that comes out of there as propaganda for obvious reason. So due to this censorship/firewall if people want to usually get news from the country without having to rely on state media it's usually through foreign media(usually western ones), so we have to tell their story for them, since their government have sealed up the country internet from much of the world. lol So the great firewall has had alot of effect on this and wont be changing anytime soon as long as that law persists this will keep being the case.

 

[Globenim]

If you want to follow a good Uyghur account that's not a propaganda here's one:

An Norway based propaganda bot,
that spouts only ridiculous dumb shit and lies about local Chinese traditions and events,
that also actively follows and desseminates lies parotted from other U.S. regime propaganda mouthpieces and
that is followed by and affiliated with U.S. regime propaganda mouthpieces like RFA and U.S. higher ups,
who directly received funds from U.S. regime money laundering proxies for training in the U.S.A.,
who was already caught with defrauding money and money laundering, after receiving training in the U.S. proxy hotspot Turkey to train and kickstart extremist terrorcells and trying to start covert shit in China,
following the exact same CIA script as every other totally-not-CIA-and-US-regime-affiliated propaganda bot to launder cringe and intelligence insulting U.S. state propaganda, with their so obviously faked tears about "values" and "humanity"

And this propaganda bot here is talking about "red flags" an "no propaganda" in the same sentence hes peddling propaganda directly taken from the mouth of the genocidal U.S. terror regime.

 

[Adecypher]

The book is written by phoar people? ...

 

[Globenim]

Google used to operate in China, but they did not want to abide by Chinese laws and left. Twitter and Facebook can also operate in China, provided that they comply with Chinese laws.

Google and Twitter at the end of the day are U.S. companies, and accomplices of the U.S. regime wether they like it or not. From a businessperspective it makes no sense that Google would not want to abide Chinese laws. Google follows similar laws in the EU, India and other countries. Its safer to assume that the U.S. regime chose the approach to slow down and deprive Chinas overal internet development and ability to catch up by cancelling the coorperation all together than have Google operate in China in full control by China and without any control and means to spy on Chinese citizen and less options to manipulate information by the U.S. regime which makes maintaing a monopoly moot and both the U.S. regime and Google just cope with this narrative about values and ethics.

And before some bot repeats his scripted bullshit, nobody is retarded enough to actually believe the U.S. regime respects its own laws that exist only for its own convenience or to deceive its slaves of a population. Violating oaths without consquences, lawless espionage, lawless arrest, showtrials, state funded disinformation, daylight bribes and kickbacks, embezzlement without anyone getting punished. They are not even bothering to hide half of it because their strategy is just contiously drowning their crimes with lies, before they blackmail, threaten and straight out murder of everyone who actually threatens that system.

When the U.S. regime tells them to open up their butts and hand over Chinese private data they will do so with or without approval of public lawmakers.

 

[Globenim]

The American government is afraid of two little girls

They also started to order U.S. platforms to ban even European and American citizen who can see through all the bullshit or are even on the ground, along with concerted smear campaigns from "independent" U.S. regime affiliated and run propaganda mouthpiecs to drown reactions to blatant U.S. censorship of the truth. Not just Chinese users.

And their bots try to insult your intelligence with this ridicolous attempts to give these U.S. regime controlled platforms some credit of doubt to have a legitimate reason to cherrypick and ban users showing real things about China rather than porotting the U.S. regimes lies, when every comment section about China are full of pro-US-anti-China fake accounts and bots spamming the same scripted posts full of U.S. regime disinfo talking points and cheap shot and insults and blatant racism 10-24 hours every day, to drown normal users mostly positive and balanced comments, without any of them ever getting touched no matter how many times they are reported unles they maybe straight out advocate explicit genocide on Chinese maybe, and the videos or posts or seach results are sidelined with recomendations of Indian and U.S. channels and mouthpices pushing blatant and ridiculous lies out that surpass every flat earth news channel.

 

[BATMAN]

Lol.. she doesn't even look Muslim... Why would China want to oppress her for being Muslim???

Your authority to declare non compliant sects. as non Muslims does not extend beyond borders of Pakistan.
For very same reasons, foreign minister of Pakistan is being addressed in media as hypocrite.

 

[Globenim]

Saw the usual old unrelated stock pictures used for all U.S. regime propaganda and didnt even really read lol.

Sayragul Sauytbay

Can only be a reprint of the same old U.S. regime invented fake story. You shills can read all the debunking of these frauds in the archives of all the other shill threads you spammed about this fake story over the last years.

 

[master_13]

what's funny to date, US and west still can't come up with one single first hand evidence of "abuse", everything is based on 2nd and 3rd hand account, and many those interviewed are associated with World Uyghur Congress, a known US funded organization with goal of subverting China and seek independence. Even the pictures of "concentration camp" were later found to be regular prison photos, obviously Xinjing isn't allowed to have prisons. And guess what, Xinjiang prisons house mostly Uyghur prisoner because that's what majority of people are in Xinjiang.