ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[Armchair]

China is showing its character, and it is not a pretty sight. I do not think any country can trust a nation like this. Nor can we allow such an evil country to spread its influence.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Bro I don't understand why Pakistanis/PDF are not atleast allowing a small possibility that this might just be true?? China is Iron brother so it is all Maerican propoganda??

PDF also seems to have heavy handed and dismissive attitude when it comes to XinJiang muslims??

Report the matter and move on without quoting back or doing so in kind. Be it the instigator or the one who responds, will be dealt on similar fashion accordingly. Mos(s) will look into the matter and members have no free hand to take matter into their own hands until & unless resolved. Instead of being in rush, let's ignore the matter for a while by not getting involved, report it and move on.



The post is edited having provocative and inappropriate remarks directed at certain members of this Forum. Please, keep it friendly for the sake of productive & analytical discussion.

Regards,

 

[The Eagle]

Bro I don't understand why Pakistanis/PDF are not atleast allowing a small possibility that this might just be true?? China is Iron brother so it is all Maerican propoganda??

PDF also seems to have heavy handed and dismissive attitude when it comes to XinJiang muslims??

Had it been the case as you said; you wouldn't be seeing thread still active. None opposed to discuss. The matter was all about abiding by the rules of forums. The subject is still available to discuss.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

I know this post doesnt show your real character
Despite our differences i am sure you are a decent human being and belong to a loving family

I just lament that so many Kashmiris and some others like to portray Indians as evil despite how much we try to ensure their happiness and not cross our limits in trying to kill the insurgency there. But, compare us to the Chinese and the Russians, we literally treat Kashmiris like little princesses despite the fact that there is so much violence in Kashmir while Xinjiang Muslims are peaceful.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Had it been the case as you said; you wouldn't be seeing thread still active. None opposed to discuss. The matter was all about abiding by the rules of forums. The subject is still available to discuss.

He suffers from comprehension issues and troll chia syndrome

I just lament that so many Kashmiris and some others like to portray Indians as evil despite how much we try to ensure their happiness and not cross our limits in trying to kill the insurgency there. But, compare us to the Chinese and the Russians, we literally treat Kashmiris like little princesses despite the fact that there is so much violence in Kashmir while Xinjiang Muslims are peaceful.

Na laly na

I wish and pray you are right
But there are also gruesome stories that destroy work and good will built by indian state

 

[The Eagle]

He suffers from comprehension issues and troll chia syndrome

We have 5 relevant topics being shown at the end of this page alone in regard to topic in hand but, am really surprised by the understanding of few on the matter. These are same views & incorrect concerns shown by the likes of Gul Bukhari etc on social media. Surprised.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

I know this post doesnt show your real character
Despite our differences i am sure you are a decent human being and belong to a loving family

Indian forces have not been any less brutal
There are mass graves torture and rape
Mass punishments of the Kashmiri civilians i have seen tortured bodies dumped into river jehlam by indian troops and they knew we will see them and kashmiris on our sides will see them
Terror tactics are way too many to write


And then there is the issue of
WHAT ABOUT

and for that i dont have answer but i wont deflect a question

Those tortured must have been terrorists or terrorists supporters who must have been aiding or abetting the terrorists in some ways. Not denying that some times innocents also suffer. Atrocities have happened, can't deny that.

But compare this with China, are we stopping the Kashmiris from practicing their religion ? Are we sending them to re-education camps where god knows what happens, are we filing the place with non-Kashmiris ? No. Compare with Russia, where the Russians got their tanks rolling all over Grozny in Chechnya. We have done nothing compared to all that. May be that is why we are suffering in Kashmir.

 

[zulu]

Perfect approach let them present all sides of story but back up with facts not just for trolling.As PDF is and should be information and ideas sharing site not an propaganda tool and we are not blind in China love as many indians claims here.Burnt by that approach before with USA

Had it been the case as you said; you wouldn't be seeing thread still active. None opposed to discuss. The matter was all about abiding by the rules of forums. The subject is still available to discuss.

 

[denel]

Those tortured must have been terrorists or terrorists supporters who must have been aiding or abetting the terrorists in some ways. Not denying that some times innocents also suffer. Atrocities have happened, can't deny that.

But compare this with China, are we stopping the Kashmiris from practicing their religion ? Are we sending them to re-education camps where god knows what happens, are we filing the place with non-Kashmiris ? No. Compare with Russia, where the Russians got their tanks rolling all over Grozny in Chechnya. We have done nothing compared to all that. May be that is why we are suffering in Kashmir.

Not correct. Attrocities by indian forces are well documented including delibrate rape similar to those carried out by the Serbs against Muslims there. Regretfully, had India understood the notion of respect and valuing people yet you adopted the tactics of brutality which are guaranteed to have opposing reaction - elementary physics. Your BJP is ultra-nationalist which is totting a quasi neo nazi type of agenda that is no different than what we have witnessed here not that long ago during Aparthied; yes - before you get to it - i lost my cousin and his wife and 2 kids who were shot and dynamited for supporting people who were fleeing from RSA - irrespective of race, religion or gender. Yet for this offence, they were targetted and made an example of. When we went to their farm house - there was nothing but nothing left to identify them with.
Pal, before you condone such violence against those who seek self determination, you need to read the very articles of Gandhi and his values which have been conviniently forgotten and relegated by your government who were directly complicit in Gandhi's assissination - is there anything left to say thereafter.
Back to China, if you are trying to use those tactics as an example - shame on you and your entire nation. I will be the first to be protesting outside the Indian consulate here in Pretoria and trust me I will mobilise entire muslim community across RSA to march on your consulate. Then again, how will you silence over 100mil of your muslim community - do you think for 1 second the challenge if they all arose and crippled your governemtn thru civil disorder. Already you have marginalised citizens due to incomprehensive caste system which is an aborance on humanity; lets say for 1 min, if all decided enough of these wretched upper caste Hindus; then what.
Anyway I have said enough you need to think 2x before writing such garbage supporting these genocidal tendencies. Kashmiris are not the peaceful natured Uighurs that will standby and take attrocities they will hit back.

Man these chinese CPC/PLA government paid trolls are sooooo annoying and dont even type proper english

They are; there is an entire group within PLA pyscops that is devoted to squashing any such reports and are monitoring their own citizens. Unfortunately under their new emperor Xi - this is taking the form beyond what happened under the gang of four. Look at Zhao Ziyang - because he supported the students in Tiannenmien - he has been completely sanitised from history book and ask these trolls they will not respond to it. Fortunately, I was fortunate to have met Zhao when he toured East Africa and a gentleman of reflection and thought unlike these bot creating communist cadres who see nothing except East is Red and subjugating entire races.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Not correct. Attrocities by indian forces are well documented including delibrate rape similar to those carried out by the Serbs against Muslims there. Regretfully, had India understood the notion of respect and valuing people yet you adopted the tactics of brutality which are guaranteed to have opposing reaction - elementary physics. Your BJP is ultra-nationalist which is totting a quasi neo nazi type of agenda that is no different than what we have witnessed here not that long ago during Aparthied; yes - before you get to it - i lost my cousin and his wife and 2 kids who were shot and dynamited for supporting people who were fleeing from RSA - irrespective of race, religion or gender. Yet for this offence, they were targetted and made an example of. When we went to their farm house - there was nothing but nothing left to identify them with.
Pal, before you condone such violence against those who seek self determination, you need to read the very articles of Gandhi and his values which have been conviniently forgotten and relegated by your government who were directly complicit in Gandhi's assissination - is there anything left to say thereafter.
Back to China, if you are trying to use those tactics as an example - shame on you and your entire nation. I will be the first to be protesting outside the Indian consulate here in Pretoria and trust me I will mobilise entire muslim community across RSA to march on your consulate. Then again, how will you silence over 100mil of your muslim community - do you think for 1 second the challenge if they all arose and crippled your governemtn thru civil disorder. Already you have marginalised citizens due to incomprehensive caste system which is an aborance on humanity; lets say for 1 min, if all decided enough of these wretched upper caste Hindus; then what.
Anyway I have said enough you need to think 2x before writing such garbage supporting these genocidal tendencies. Kashmiris are not the peaceful natured Uighurs that will standby and take attrocities they will hit back.

.

I suppose once you Muslims learn to treat other Muslims of other sects better, what to say of minorities, then people might take your futile lengthy angry posts seriously. Reality of Kashmir is that it is a separatist movement which started with a massacre and exodus of its minority Hindu community and this is the reason why in most of the Non-Muslim world and even in parts of the Muslims no one cares about this so-called freedom movement.

 

[denel]

I suppose once you Muslims learn to treat other Muslims of other sects better, what to say of minorities, then people might take your futile lengthy angry posts seriously. Reality of Kashmir is that it is a separatist movement which started with a massacre and exodus of its minority Hindu community and this is the reason why in most of the Non-Muslim world and even in parts of the Muslims no one cares about this so-called freedom movement.

Pal, I am NOT muslim. They dont care because they are afraid. Your BJP hindu gangs have instilled fear on any protests; needless to say what your gangs are doing to poor butchers even those who were innocent.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Pal, I am NOT muslim.

Doesn't matter.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Maybe West/America has it's own interests in the mattet. But Pakistan/Pakistanis should not simply overlook this horrific ethnic cleansing. Especially when evidence of it is emerging through under cover journalists. Also Vice is not the only one that has dug up signs that point towards China trying to ethnically cleanse Uighur muslims.

As regards to golalai ismail and co they are plain fraudsters. And their claims cannot be substantiated. As similar journalists finding similar evidence is highly doubtfull.

I think China borrowed this idea from Pakistan Army's vocation schools that we were running to bring former TTP members who were brainwashed/tricked into becoming militants back to normalcy. The Chinese just took that idea and amplified it to ethnic cleansing levels.

It's just a possibility and I could be wrong.
And it doesn't mean PA is accountable for Chinese CPC's actions.

I guess CPC borrowed this idea of paid internet rolls from Israel and how it has an entire infrastructure and dedicated software programs that target voices of dissent against Israeli oppression of Palestinians. I remember watching an AlJazeera documentary not too long ago that talked about how American-Israelis/Jews and their lobbies employed surveillance softwares that hushed up the BDS campaign, they would also dig up dirt on anyone who supports BDS/Palestinains and even ruin their careers if need be. They were getting their funds from big shot American Israeli billionaires like Soros foundation, AIPAC etc etc.

Suspiciously now that documentary is nowhere to be found on youtube or google. So I guess they're doing their job pretty well.

Not correct. Attrocities by indian forces are well documented including delibrate rape similar to those carried out by the Serbs against Muslims there. Regretfully, had India understood the notion of respect and valuing people yet you adopted the tactics of brutality which are guaranteed to have opposing reaction - elementary physics. Your BJP is ultra-nationalist which is totting a quasi neo nazi type of agenda that is no different than what we have witnessed here not that long ago during Aparthied; yes - before you get to it - i lost my cousin and his wife and 2 kids who were shot and dynamited for supporting people who were fleeing from RSA - irrespective of race, religion or gender. Yet for this offence, they were targetted and made an example of. When we went to their farm house - there was nothing but nothing left to identify them with.
Pal, before you condone such violence against those who seek self determination, you need to read the very articles of Gandhi and his values which have been conviniently forgotten and relegated by your government who were directly complicit in Gandhi's assissination - is there anything left to say thereafter.
Back to China, if you are trying to use those tactics as an example - shame on you and your entire nation. I will be the first to be protesting outside the Indian consulate here in Pretoria and trust me I will mobilise entire muslim community across RSA to march on your consulate. Then again, how will you silence over 100mil of your muslim community - do you think for 1 second the challenge if they all arose and crippled your governemtn thru civil disorder. Already you have marginalised citizens due to incomprehensive caste system which is an aborance on humanity; lets say for 1 min, if all decided enough of these wretched upper caste Hindus; then what.
Anyway I have said enough you need to think 2x before writing such garbage supporting these genocidal tendencies. Kashmiris are not the peaceful natured Uighurs that will standby and take attrocities they will hit back.


They are; there is an entire group within PLA pyscops that is devoted to squashing any such reports and are monitoring their own citizens. Unfortunately under their new emperor Xi - this is taking the form beyond what happened under the gang of four. Look at Zhao Ziyang - because he supported the students in Tiannenmien - he has been completely sanitised from history book and ask these trolls they will not respond to it. Fortunately, I was fortunate to have met Zhao when he toured East Africa and a gentleman of reflection and thought unlike these bot creating communist cadres who see nothing except East is Red and subjugating entire races.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

@denel LMAO are you one of those traitors on an NGO payroll that would sell out your country for a fistful of dollars? Why don't you try getting a real job instead.

@The Eagle there's supposed to be a pinned thread here for all Uighur-related issues. Would you please move this "discussion" there.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I have been saying all along the situation is very very dire for moslems in Xinjiang. This is a good inside view. You can see mosques are locked up even in ramadhan. Where are all the uighur people in kasghar or Hotan - all disappeared for re-education.

Mod edit: Inappropriate posting/words/provocation.

This is not only here but is now spreading to Xian as well. Please pass along the video.

My prayers are for and with the moslems of Xinjiang and hope that this trial will pass. The prayers for the Lord of Abraham will continue to echo across Xinjiang.
Amen.

Funny how an american channel is making a video about Muslims ALLEGEDLY suffering in China when the american have murdered millions of Muslims since 1990. Anything between 5-10 million in fact.......the irony!!!!!!!!!!..................................................anyone else think that the channel might be slightly biased????????..........

You are the one ignore others breaking rules for posting offensive comment. Name trolling by other against China is tolerant which I ask you to act on but you failed to act on. If others can call name calling of troll be tolerant by you, why I can't? Special rules for me, is it?

@Arsalan @Irfan Baloch

Brother, us Pakistanis love China. Ignore him, he is a troll. This is ALL propaganda against China. Enemies want to draw a wedge between Chinese and Pakistani brothers and sisters.......

Iron brother syndrome in Pakistan will also wear off. Just you wait. Only a matter of 4-5 years before Pakistan ends up another Cambodia or Sri Lanka.


Ive said it before right here on PDF
And I'll say it again.
India, China, Syria and Burma are petri dish experiments carried out by Dajjalic forces. It's only beginning of hard times for global muslim population.

Sure sure. You fail to mention the slaughter of between 5-10 million Muslims by the americans since 1990. I suppose that's okay compared to going to a deradicalisation program............

May Allah help us see the ultimate evil and oppression the Chinese hide in their hearts. In the long-term, China could betray Pakistan "iron brothers" or not. Deep down, they hate our religion.

It is sad that no Muslim country is speaking up against them.

I hope the US can help in some way, perhaps help with arming resistance fighters there and elsewhere. China is becoming a very ugly monster, it can be baited into making an egotistic mistake perhaps in Taiwan. If the US comes up with a good plan, it is possible to bring down China.

in'sha'Allah.

SURE SURE.................................The same americans who have genocided between 5-10 million Muslims globally since 1990??????????..................WTF!!!!!...........................I suppose that's not as bad as being DERADICALIZED...............


You have just proven the fact religious extremists are mentally retarded misfits with a low IQ devoid of reality..........

Bro I don't understand why Pakistanis/PDF are not atleast allowing a small possibility that this might just be true?? China is Iron brother so it is all Maerican propoganda??

PDF also seems to have heavy handed and dismissive attitude when it comes to XinJiang muslims??

TBH We don't give a damn. Not our problem or business. We need the Chinese and that's all there is to it. What China does internally is not a matter that concerns us. If the americans can genocide between 5-10 million Muslims globally since 1990 and get away with it scott free, then the Chines deradicalizing a few zealots is a a complete NON-ISSUE.