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An Independent East Turkestan will be bad for Pakistan

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    Votes: 64 53.8%
  • No

    Votes: 55 46.2%

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No, they will come alive, truth or lies, with western anti India propaganda if your strength is about rivalling the west. that's waht happens to China , The eye of the western propaganda storm.

West would continue with their propaganda, nothing stopping them. I was talking about Muslim countries, though we are too strong for them to even think of taking any military action against us, without getting their asses bombed to extinction. We aren't politically and economically big enough to stop these dogs from constant barking on Kashmir. Which we must focus on achieving.
 
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Indonesia government will not support Chinese handle on Xinjiang since many Islam organization have express its resentment on the issue. Our foreign minister has also called Chinese ambassador to question about Chinese handling on Uighyur.
Its JK vice president move, not outhorized by all the parlement and presiden it self, he try to buy simpaty from the muslim majority for vote, and his background offcourse as "Muslim Politician", all the JK move is not purely social, or "humanatarian". He also support some hard line movement and politician. Typical right wing
 
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China using its economic strength to persuade countries to sign letter. In the long term china will suffer from "bullying" foreign policy.
 
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Sadly your own president didnt voice out...That gave the rest a reassurance it is ok..

He is a Hyprocrite aswell.

Always want to ask why didn't Turkey join the western block to heckle China?

Same reason why Turkey never joined western block to "heckle" the Soviets.
We were always a country with own interests and own opinions.
 
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Same reason why Turkey never joined western block to "heckle" the Soviets.
We were always a country with own interests and own opinions.
Good, all normal countries are.

China using its economic strength to persuade countries to sign letter. In the long term china will suffer from "bullying" foreign policy.
Some of the leading nations signing the letter are Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar.. they are some of the richest guys on this planet, they don't really need Chinese money.
 
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big word for a yankee lover .
:rolleyes:

Here: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/brit...erence-on-press-freedom.626295/#post-11616270

I do not have selective judgement actually - I try not to be a hypocrite.

China is a totalitarian society where state is supreme. They don't care about Islam or religious freedom. This isn't to say that Muslims do not do well in China (many do) but what is happening in Xinjiang is indeed a matter of grave concern.

The so-called Muslim Ummah should have unanimously supported the call for UN-led investigation in Xinjiang in regards to treatment of Muslims in there.

Saab bikkey huey hain - spineline shameless leaders. You expect these buffoons to sort out Kashmir and Palestine? :rolleyes: Allah Almighty does not help hypocrites.

Now tell me about any Western country which have put Muslims in concentration camps and relabelled them as education centers. :rolleyes:
 
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Some posters reaally talk tough here, but how many of you guys will follow the OP's advocacy to boycott Chinese porducts?


China is not, they live a better life than most Muslims in Muslim majority countries, but if you just believe China is an oppressor anyway, you do have a problem with China and the Chinese people.

Are they not being put in so called "reforming centers"?
Is every one of them roaming free in their neighborhood?
Are there no children being forced into special education centers and their mothers not allowed to meet them?
 
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Are they not being put in so called "reforming centers"?
Is every one of them roaming free in their neighborhood?
Are there no children being forced into special education centers and their mothers not allowed to meet them?
Correction centers are everywhere in China, same as those in US, Much much more Han Chinese are in those centers than all minorities added up, they are preventive facilities for those who are security risks and commited minor offences. As for what happens in Xinjiang, I guess it's a mixture of correction centers and vocational training schools, some of them were made to be there and some are willingly join to learn a skill, it could be something intergrated to China's nation wide poverty alleviation program which Xi made his personal pledge to eliminate poverty by 2020, it's his career keynote and education and vocational training is a big part of it.

As for how many are there, some western media says 1 million, some say 3 million, those are jokes not even worth refuting.
 
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Chinese dont want to cleanse Uighurs they just want to sinicize these people i.e islam with Chinese characteristics.
Hypocrisy is Muslims are killing muslims in Yemen , Iraq , Libya , Syria , Afghanistan yet u attack China on Muslim oppression lol @beijingwalker
 
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:hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:

Sunshine!!! start learning International Relations and Strategic Studies to know why west shivers in the name of China

Shivers? Not really. I wasn't denying the power of China and threat it poses to West but it's not the end of the world for them is my point. Anyway, i digress. Shouldn't even have touched on this.


Wikipedia is NOT a source!!!! History of Islam is rather old yes....and in that period small little incidents may have happened yes but when u read history inorder to analyse it so u learn from it, u read and study it as a whole not by taking one or two incidents or a few incidents.

So now you backtrack from your statement that Chinese have never done anything against Islam?


and about topic; Do u think, we cant see where this World Uyghur Congress is based at or whatever name of it is? Who is their pay master? Isnt that what Gullen does of FETO? arnt US his pay masters too where he is based in?

REMEMBER! these westerners judo christians dont actually care abt Muslims or any human rights, they r doing it for their own goals and objectives in mind, and r just using us Muslims as a pawn.

Have I said anything about West loving Muslims? I even agree with you they've shed Muslim blood.

I agree that US has an agenda. US isn't a fan of China, no doubt.

But that still doesn't mean China isn't doing oppression on Uighurs. It's just convenient for US that they found this.

There are undeniable facts and even statements from China itself now that prove this is a horrible horrible reality for Uighurs.

If you think it's all lies then prove it. Show evidence to the contrary. Stop hiding behind West hates Muslims.


Even Erdogan - more related to uighurs by virtue of Turkic descent than any other Muslim or non-Muslim - has made it clear just this month that a solution to any outstanding difficulties is possible and that moreover, non-interested parties should not exploit this issue to push an anti-China agenda.
This is the 4th or 5th time you've said this. It doesn't matter, Erdogan isn't Muslims Khalifa. He spoke against Chinese and i respect him immensely for that then he got bullied and changed his stance slightly. Not a good thing but at least he spoke against it unlike the other Islamic leaders who reject it outright or feign ignorance.

The OP is calling for boycotting Chinese goods? How many of your are gonna do this? Funny last time this boycotting Chinese goods campaign was made by India for China's support of Pakistan in UNSC, a couple of months later, some guys from Pakistan again are calling for boycotting Chinese goods. Do you really think China fears this kind of dumb childplays?

My intention for boycott isn't to hurt China. I doubt i can even convince a single person.

It's for me only because i feel like i would be helping China commit this on Uighurs even if my contribution is extremely extremely insignificant.
 
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If you think it's all lies then prove it. Show evidence to the contrary. Stop hiding behind West hates Muslims.
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I know you won't believe them, but it won't hurt to check them out.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfQpJutJNG6Mpz0GD8Cmcig/videos

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK9Ucky97ozdCwgL-bGM43Q/videos

My intention for boycott isn't to hurt China. I doubt i can even convince a single person.

It's for me only because i feel like i would be helping China commit this on Uighurs even if my contribution is extremely extremely insignificant.
Good, good luck with your personal China boycott :)

You should be sincere and honest, nothing made in China, don't lie to yourself.
 
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As for what happens in Xinjiang, I guess it's a mixture of correction centers and vocational training schools, some of them were made to be there and some are willingly join to learn a skill

This is interesting.

China denied these pretty strongly as Western propaganda until Western propaganda showed satellite images of concentration camps increasing and expanding.

Then China's stance changed. Oh these? Oh these are vocational training centres.

At the end of all this, China will eventually admit it and be like we did it but we're not doing this anymore, okay?

I know you won't believe them, but it won't hurt to check them out.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfQpJutJNG6Mpz0GD8Cmcig/videos

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK9Ucky97ozdCwgL-bGM43Q/videos


Good, good luck with your personal China boycott :)

You should be sincere and honest, nothing made in China, don't lie to yourself.

Recently made new unknown channels with 1-2 views, oh not suspicious at all :)

Thanks. I don't use much of Chinese products anyway so it's not that hard so far.
 
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