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You claimed that my videos are fake and Muslim girls won't do those acts, I post videos to counter your attack, why are you so upset after being proved wrong?

And everyone can see your BS too. I didn't claim anything.

That's what you claimed , right?
Itachi said:
I was going through the thread and saw this lol....Muslims don't act like this at all. Another fake video.
 
You claimed that my videos are fake and Muslim girls won't do those acts, I post videos to counter your attack, why are you so upset after being proved wrong?

No ones upset here. You posting fake videos and then posting more fake ones and then posting a superstar that doesn't even care about religion doesn't make your videos or your points true. :lol:
 
No ones upset here. You posting fake videos and then posting more fake ones and then posting a superstar that doesn't even care about religion doesn't make your videos or your points true. :lol:
You can claim my video are fake and I can counter your claim, why calling Mod for this? and those Uighur girls can be not Muslims, I never said they are, you are accusing me for calling Uighurs not Muslims, but actually it was you who did it.

Damn, why are you so hell bent on proclaiming Uyghurs as non-Muslims??
I never did.
 
At this video at 4:50, an Uighur guy runs a liquor store and all his customers are Uighurs, I heard in some Muslim countries alcohol is banned, but in Xinjiang many of them are heavy drinkers.
Central Asia countries, such as Kazakhstan drink a lot. Some Chinese working in Kazakhstan told me, Kazakhs drink like Russians. :cheers:
 
@Arsalan talking about this. :rolleyes:
Bro i dont want to sound like i am giving any undue favors here but, COME ON!

You are claiming the video to be fake because you say "muslims dont behave like this". We have seen our people go even beyond this haven't we? Here in Pakistan!! So thats no excuse. Yes he may be cherry picking a few videos but they cannot be discarded as fakes.
 
From those videos, we can see that people live a very decent life in Kashgar, they go about with their everyday life, taking care of themselves and their families, work their jobs and run their business, most people have their own cars and nice homes.

People can argue for different reasons for Xinjiang's terrorism getting down to zero from the brink of out of control after 2009 Urumqi riot, I say the main reason is the great economic development in Xinjiang and whole China, GDP almost quadrupled and suddenly people find themselves live in a very affluent life with everything they dreamed of a decade ago, that's the key factor for the elimination of terrorism, development.
 
As if you really have freedom of speeches? Does your speeches translate to justice and a fair society that everyone can progress? I don't see freedom and I don't see hope when young can't go to school, countries are left in ruined. When natural disasters struck, ordinary citizen are left hopeless and monsoon killed large number of people and government can't do anything. Is this the freedom that you are taught being better than socialist communist?

When you can't even feed yourself and left to die. What kind of freedom do you still think you can have? You don't even have the basic means to live as a normal human being when sanitation, food a,means to earn a living and housing don't even available.

How are freedom of speech and progress linked? You don't have to suppress freedom of speech and religion to progress.

And yes the freedom translates to fair and just societies. Look at how North Korea an oppressive regime is pretty much destroying the lives of its people but due to censorship, nothing gets out.

Look at China's crackdown on Uighurs and their censorship has put a lid on this issue and the best we have are scarce sources exposing it.

Progress has nothing to do with freedom or lack there of but a just and free society? You can't have it without freedom of speech and expression.

I feel like this is another communist propaganda if i am being honest. "You will have poverty and bad life if we give you freedom of speech".

I don't know how China can deny their oppression on Uighurs, just talk to a Chinese for a few minutes and their mindset comes out which is oppression is okay and it's not really oppression. Religion needs to be exterminated from those Uighurs and they were committing a wrong by having thoughts opposite to the Chinese government.
 
How are freedom of speech and progress linked? You don't have to suppress freedom of speech and religion to progress.

And yes the freedom translates to fair and just societies. Look at how North Korea an oppressive regime is pretty much destroying the lives of its people but due to censorship, nothing gets out.

Look at China's crackdown on Uighurs and their censorship has put a lid on this issue and the best we have are scarce sources exposing it.

Progress has nothing to do with freedom or lack there of but a just and free society? You can't have it without freedom of speech and expression.

I feel like this is another communist propaganda if i am being honest. "You will have poverty and bad life if we give you freedom of speech".

I don't know how China can deny their oppression on Uighurs, just talk to a Chinese for a few minutes and their mindset comes out which is oppression is okay and it's not really oppression. Religion needs to be exterminated from those Uighurs and they were committing a wrong by having thoughts opposite to the Chinese government.

Freedom of speeches impair government policy for the world countries progress. Most of the third countries mass population are not ready to for democracy to understand government. Democracy and freedom of speeches are only ready for developed countries. Tell me how much has Pakistan progress under democracy and so called freedom. Nothing but more corruption and decaying of economy. Pakistanis lives are getting worse than 20 years ago.

South Korea ,Singapore and ROC Taiwan progress and developed into first world all under dicatorship before transiting Into real democracy. When most of your population can't even read and write too much. How much can they follow government policy. How do you expect the government to progress their policy when everybody has their opinion and idea?

You can say whatever you one but China has proves it policy and is moving the right direction. Billion of Chinede people benefits and that's how CPC earn their supporters. No policy can please everybody but policy that benefit most is the best policy.
 

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